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Craigslist Reality Check = WIN!


I couldn’t sleep tonight and wound up browsing the ever-horrifying Craigslist Farm & Garden section, where I found this extremely appropriate response to solicitation for some sort of colored stallion. (I didn’t find the original ad).

While I actually think he looks like a cute little guy and getting a pony would not be the end of the world in my book, this response is something everyone contemplating breeding their mare should take a good, hard look at. Breeding, even at best, is not an exact science. While we can predict color possibilities, and you can definitely get spots if that’s what you were going for (assuming you take the time to test your stock and educate yourself on color genetics), things like size can really surprise you. As with humans, mares can have a foal prematurely or just have a small, undersized foal that will never reach the size of either parent. And, of course, as I’ve noted many times before, you may get a foal with a health problem that you never anticipated (or had even heard of, before you got Vet Bill Foal). You may get a birth defect like a wry nose, or legs requiring corrective surgery within the first six months of life.

It is really so much easier to just buy one that is already here. That’s the one sure fire way of selecting one that has the color you want, gender you want, conformation you want, etc. Yes, some people do need to breed horses, but if you are dead set on a specific result, why roll the dice (and possibly create a living creature that no one wants, you included) when you can go straight for the sure thing?

So let’s hear your stories today about foals that were not what was expected and hoped for – either yours or someone else’s. We all know it happens and I’m sure some of you, especially those of you who have been breeding for a while, will have some stories that will serve as a great wake-up call to those who are suffering from foal cravings at this time of the year!


Happy news from Shiloh Horse Rescue – Cricket, the little Morab mare I featured last week, has already found a home. Hooray for Cricket! Now, here is Lucero, a filly that I can see being a great project for someone who is ready to start their first horse from scratch. She’s only two, so of course I would prefer (and I’m sure Shiloh agrees) that she get another year to mature before any under-saddle work, but she is sensible and quiet and should be a great training project for a 4-H or Pony Club teen.

Talk about having your priorities messed up!


Usually, I have to put a backyard breeder on the blog and point out for all of you how messed-up their priorities are. This time, they did it for me, listing them out in order! From their web site:

“All our stallions are chosen First for Color, Second for Personality, Third for Height, Fourth for Conformation, Fifth for Attitude, Sixth for paces and then Bloodline. Arabian ancestry is preferred.”

Yep, the folks at Pintoresco in South Africa aren’t even trying to pretend to be going for quality here. At least they are honest! They are going for color first, and then personality (I’m trying to figure out how that differs from attitude, fifth down on the list, but I’m gonna bet you all $10 that what they mean by the #2 trait is that their stallions do not eat people). Then we’re going for height (though I’m baffled by that, because what I see on their stallion page is between 14.3 and 15.1) and THEN we finally decide to think about conformation! And do you notice what is missing completely? Pedigree. ‘Cause they don’t care what it is, although they do seem to be leaning slightly toward one breed. *insert massive eye rolling*

These messed-up priorities are apparent when you look at their stallions. It’s been a while since we’ve had a spotted yak on the blog, so here you go!

Oooh, I win. I went to Spotted Yak’s page and found this description of his amazing personality: “He is very tame and very easy to handle. He also comes when called and is a sucker for food and mares.” You don’t say! A stallion that likes FOOD and MARES? Well, damn, that is like finding a needle in a haystack…like a man that likes beer and sports! That alone surely makes him breeding quality!

But if that wasn’t bad enough, here is another of their stallions. I believe this creature was created by someone with unicorn fantasies because doesn’t he just look like he ought to have a horn?

Sadly, I went to his page and realized that as goofy a picture as that is, it was actually the best picture ever taken of this creamy critter. This is what he REALLY looks like, complete with fugly head, hideous neck, mutton withers, long back and the overall conformation of a particularly inbred mustang. Maybe a horn would help…Of course he is a cremello, so everything he sires will be a Kool Kolor. It will be as ugly as Michael Moore in a thong, but it will be a Kool Kolor!

Now let’s move on to the mare page. The priorities there are equally interesting: “Our lovely Ladies are chosen First for Color or the Effect there of, Second for Personality, Third for Height, Fourth for Conformation, Fifth for Motherly Instincts, Sixth for paces and then Bloodline. Arabian ancestry is preferred.”

What is the effect of color??? I don’t know…the effect portrayed here seems to be “shit and shavings striped bay,” and it’s not enough to distract me from these feet. While we are at it, of course we do not have a single picture of a horse being ridden. Because they are breeders, you know…they don’t do anything but breed! Nor do we have the slightest mention of genetic disease status.

But like I said, at least they are honest. As they say on their main page, “most importantly…we want color!” I can just see the future now…that cremello critter is gonna be busy. But hey, I hear South Africa has (WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC PICTURES) scary research labs that will be happy to take in any unwanted foals of Creamy Critter’s. So you guys just keep on breeding them, living your stupid little dreams. Just do me a favor and take a good look at the dumpster picture in my link first, ‘k?


‘Tis the season to starve the horses…again

This was just posted to the comments and I had to make it a main entry. Seriously, WTF? You put up these pictures and think it’s normal???

http://www.tuckervadenspaintedranch.com/mares.html

Emaciated mares, hooves a mile long that haven’t been trimmed in forever…this web site is saying “Please arrest me! Here is all the documentation you need!” Of course, this is in East Texas, where I understand that your emaciated horses pretty much have to fall down and die on the steps of the police station to get some attention…is anybody out there near enough to West Tawakoni, Texas to figure out the actual physical location of this ranch, or do you know about it? I can’t find an address online and the domain has a private registration. This obviously needs to be reported, because if this is what they look like now, I don’t want to know how they will look in February. :(

It brings up, again, another big issue — the shocking, horrifying amount of people who own horses without knowing ANYTHING about them. Another reader brought this ad to my attention:


Horse help needed
Date: 2010-11-28, 4:17PM
I need someone to come to my house a few times a week to exercise a horse that has gone lame. He will need easy boots put on, lunged in the round pen for 30 minutes and then easy boots removed. Even though they are called “easy boots” they aren’t so easy.
An option lunging would be to pony him behind another horse. I have another horse that could work but he is aggresive to other horses and you would need to be experienced enough to handle him! Or if you live close by and have a horse you can use yours. It has also been suggested that he can be ridden in his boots for exercise. I will research it. He is totally broke and we can discuss that.
Unfortunatly the round pen is not covered so you could get wet.
The pay is totally negotiable. Tell me what it is worth to you and we will go from there. I’m hoping he will not need more than a few weeks of this but I have NEVER in my 40 years of horse ownership had a lame horse so I don’t know. I’m going on advice from friends and aquaintances.
I’m also feeding supplements of Prolamin and Zerobute.
You will need to sign a liability waiver and have horse experience.
Thank you for your help.
Advice is welcome.


Ma’am, you HAVE had a lame horse if you have owned them for forty years. You just did not KNOW they were lame because you don’t know lame from sound. I am guessing your horse is aggressive from long term pain and being worked while in long term pain, and I shudder to think what is wrong with him that requires round penning for 30 minutes with easyboots on but $10 says you did not get those instructions from a licensed veterinarian. Seriously, WTF? I’m glad she is open to advice and I am sure she will get a lot of it, but I’m really sad for the horse that anyone thinks round penning him lame for 30 minutes is a good idea. There are conditions that require exercise even though the horse is obviously lame, like stifle injuries, but even with that, the conditioning program is a lot more sophisticated than “round pen for 30 minutes.” Oy vey…

Oh, and for those of you who just need a little train wreck in your life today, I have one of the top stallions in the nation but I can’t feed the rest of my horses or register them, and I think everyone should send me donations and feel sorry for me INSTEAD OF me simply SELLING the high dollar horse and feeding the rest like, you know, a logical person with an IQ higher than that of a mushroom. The best part is her friend trying to defend her and using all of the same tired of bullshit, like how Dona was kind enough to DONATE such well-bred horses to a rescue. FAIL, FAIL, FAIL. This is indefensible, and I want to send out a big high-five to all of the responsible horse owners on the thread who are unafraid to call a spade a spade in this case and are pointing out that well-bred wild-as-a-March-hare colts are worth EXACTLY what shitty, low, quality wild-as-a-March-hare colts are worth – meat price. AMEN! Glad to see so many people GET IT these days! Anyway, it was 133 pages of crazy the last time I looked, and I only got through about 30 pages of it and the last few so you’ll all have to let me know how it ends. It has come out that Dona was also in the practice of not registering her culls and dumping them, which we all know is about the #1 way to figure out that someone is just a flat out asshat who shouldn’t be in the horse business, or any business involving living creatures.

Dona, you fail in every way someone can fail and by the way, I will bet you that pretty stallion of yours that if you give me Mouse, I can have her at a normal BCS in ninety days. If you truly believe she can’t gain because she’s old, you should have no fear of that challenge. If I lose, I’ll write an apology blog about how awesome of a horse owner you are. Deal?


I went to Mid-Atlantic’s site and I see that Prince Oliver got a home for Christmas. Hooray! So now I have to show you some new faces and I think I’ll show you Manhasset Bay Cat, because he has a nose I want to kiss, and someone should be kissing it this holiday season! While he is well broke, he developed some neurological issues (not EPM, tested negative) and at this point, he can only be a pet. If you have the space and funds for a companion horse, it is truly one of the kindest things you can do this holiday season. These horses have a very hard time finding quality homes. If you have a big enough heart to provide great care to a horse that cannot be ridden at this time, you really do get a very special gold star from me! I have several such horses and, trust me, the feeling you get knowing they are safe and cared for thanks to you is invaluable.

There’s more wrong with this picture than bad Photoshopping!

And can anyone tell me why this is a stallion?

You know, when your horse gets completely crippled as a baby, does it ever occur to you that this is Nature’s way of saying Not Meant To Be Herd Stallion? I mean, in nature, he would have gotten eaten by a mountain lion when he effed up his knee. He would not have bred on. So why, exactly, do you think this completely unaccomplished (and really freaking common-looking) critter should reproduce himself? I mean, if you really did spend $40,000 on his vet bills, I guess that’s nice for him but you do realize you could have bought a stallion with an actual race record, a damn good one, for $40,000, right?
 
Not that this is special for you folks at Odyssey Ranch. You have FIVE stallions, not ONE of which has accomplished jack shit. Dude, my stallion has been to five shows and has accomplished more than all five of your stallions in their whole lives. That’s pretty sad. And I still do not think he has done enough to start standing at stud.  In today’s market, he needs to do more.  It’s a competitive world out there — kind of like how a B.A. is the new high school diploma!
 
Stop pimping out everything with testicles merely because it’s a cool color or has some famous ancestors – breeders like you are the reason double-deckers are full. The cheesy photoshopping does not help.  Photoshopping is like plastic surgery — if you cannot afford the experts, JUST SKIP IT!
 
Just stop. Please. You seem to do a great job with horse hauling so stick to that valuable service and stop perpetuating equine mediocrity all over Craigslist.


Inspirada has been at Shiloh in Nevada for quite a while now. She came from the auction complete with her very own oops foal and now that he has been weaned and is growing up, she is being ridden and tuned up. This is a little horse that is not a beauty queen, but I will bet she’s one that is going to be sound til she’s 30 and I suspect would trail ride with the surefootedness of a mountain goat! She just likes like that type to me. Inspirada needs a chance to be someone’s special horse. If you’re in the area, check her out!

 

 

 

 

 

Best of FHOTD: A good horse is never a bad color, but a bad horse can be a good color: Part IV, Grullas

Too busy at a show to write something new today, so here is a repost from the first year of the blog. I always think it’d be cool if there was a program on the Internet where you could upload a clear conformation picture of your horse and it would colorize him sorrel. Then you could check to see if he was still pretty! A lot of people just can’t see past color, and the two horses at the bottom are classic examples of that. FYI, they were all advertised as grulla – whether or not they aren’t really grullas is of course up for debate, but it’s hard to tell with winter coats, etc.


I’ve been meaning to do this one for a while. I admit I’ve personally always wanted to own a grulla, and haven’t yet. It’s a beautiful color. Like cremello and palomino, it has quite a following and plenty of people trying to breed specifically for the color…sometimes without a whole lot of thought to anything else.
Let’s start with a nice example of a grulla. This is a young filly who’s still growing, so the fact that she’s downhill is understandable. She’s got a great shoulder. She’s compact and well balanced with a nice hip, and a neck that is well defined and elegant. It’s low set, but you want that in a stock breed pleasure horse – it makes it easy for them to carry themselves as desired for western pleasure. She has an attractive head and her pasterns are pretty much ideal – sloping and not too long. She is a bit tied in below the knee and looks like she may toe out a bit but it’s not extreme. Overall, I really like this filly and her excellent coloring is just the icing.
 

 
By the way, it’s also a good example of a non pro picture where the horse still looks good – she’s not clipped or posed – in fact, she’s sleeping, but she’s still a quality horse in good weight and condition and that shines through.
 

I’d place this guy in the middle of the pack. If you like foundation quarter horses, he’s a pretty decent example of one. He’s compact (which many foundation breds are not), he’s got a great shoulder (which many foundation breds do not), his neck is attached nicely though it’s short, and he’s got good bone. Although I can’t see the feet, I can pretty much tell you those aren’t 00′s down there. He looks like he is built to last and built to work.
 

I have to knock him down for being back at the knee and downhill (look at the pic – his back hooves are lower, he’s on a hill to make him close to level). Stallion quality? Well, he’s not necessarily my cup of tea but I’d sure rather see him siring little grullas than many of the straight-shouldered, painfully long foundation horses I see standing at stud out there!

All right – now on to what this blog is all about. Fuuuugly grullas!

All I can say about this 3 year old is that hallelujah, he is a gelding! Despite the strong resemblance to some inbred mustang off an indian reservation, this is a registered Quarter Horse. Um, eek.
 
He is straight shouldered, short necked (in fact I think his head may actually be longer than his neck), and did he steal that tail off an Appaloosa? He stole the position of it off an Arabian. He’s got no butt and he’s got this weird super long gaskin with his hock set way out behind him.
 
Ah well. He is a gelding…but who bred this critter?
 

 
 
 
Oh…my. This is a QH/Fjord/Standardbred/Arab cross broodmare. Are you wondering WHY? WHY? WHY? Oh trust me, we all are.
 
I will let the sale ad speak for itself:
 
“[name] is for sale husband made up his mind [full name] 2002 Grulla Qh X Fjord x Arab X Standerdbred was trained to ride[ trainer redacted] and since then she had a grulla stud colt[her first one sire by our stud [name] -sorrel] ,she has had her teeth done by [dentist][june 30] and upd on her deworming ,stands around 15.1hh she is eligable for registeration by ABRA and IBHA and NQHR.we have owned her since she was born.she has a wonderful attitude she needs more training and miles.she might be in foal to my stud [name][AQHA Palomino stalion] for 2008 her sire is Pocos sunny boy one [Sunny- Dun] Abra eligable too and her Dam is Mickey [QHX Fjord- grulla]Her Grandsire is Poco King Shook[AQHA Buckskin] and her Granddam is Sargeants Rocs[CPAR 50% Arab x STB]she has a good personality and trails well.she normally is great with her feet and with a farrier.[name] would be a good ranch horse and good for roping ,team penning.this girl is not affraid of anything”
 
 
I don’t know about her, but I am affraid she is pregnant and reproducing her fugliness! Be affraid, be very affraid!
 

And who are these people who post that the mare MIGHT be in foal? Call out the damn vet, you freakin’ cheapskate. It’s not exactly a budget buster to check for pregnancy.

 

 

*sigh* Seriously, people. Who thought crossing those four breeds was a good idea? I can’t think of anything more off the wall that you could throw in there. Shit, just breed her to a Peruvian Paso…there ya go.

 


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