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The Pre-Enumclaw Report!
First of all, for those who are local and want to participate in rescuing horses from this sale, a site has been put together to discuss the topic and post live updates from the auction:
http://auctionhorsesonline.webs.com/
So let’s do an update on last month’s horses – at least the ones we know about that went to blog readers.
309 – Alaska Bowtie (shown). This guy is definitely the Cinderella story of the group. Thanks to a breeder who cared and a blog reader who spent a great deal of personal time making phone calls and making this happen, he was swiftly removed from the kill pen and is now enjoying his let-down time from the track at Polestar Farm. They are working on fixing his long-toed racetrack feet and, after his vacation, he will begin being evaluated for a second career. This is exactly how we would like to see all of them end up. What a shame there are not enough of these homes to go around!
312 – Boston Lady Jewel, registered APHA mare. This big black & white broodmare is already well on her way to her second career. She turned out to be extremely quiet and sensible and as a result has already been started under saddle and is riding at a walk and jog. Her amateur owner plans to put her into professional training in 2010 and take her to the Pinto shows. This particular mare is just a super high quality mare who almost slipped through the cracks. It’s amazing what we are finding out there. I have no doubt she’s going to have a very successful show career. 430, the super friendly big two year old TB filly, is at the same home and will not be doing anything but growing up for awhile. Her owner reports that she likes to put her foot in the water bucket. 
Someone got 318 out. She was not in the kill pen, but I don’t know who that person was. Same with 321.
325 was registered Arabian mare Szizzle. She has completed quarantine and is going home either this weekend or next. Her new owner talked to her old one who confirmed that the mare, and I quote, rides great. She was dumped for having the audacity to get kicked in the pasture and go lame. I love people, they are awesome. Szizzle is stuffing herself with lovely hay and will get a workup by the owner’s vet after she goes to her permanent home.
323 was registered Arabian Seaside Dawn Delight, shown. This lovely mare is safe and is up to date on everything now. She turned out to be a daughter of a U.S. and Canadian National Champion Stallion, EA Echstravagant. She’s only halter broke, but kind, sound and six years old with no issues other than a need for training. Very cute mover! She is currently available to an approved new home as the person who bailed her is having to take several returns from a buyer who has had personal issues, but she is safe until she finds one. She’s in the Bellingham area – email me if you’d like to check her out!
331 was registered Arabian Lady Mayphair. She is sound and in great condition. She was dumped by someone who had only recently purchased her – we heard the whole annoying story. This mare needs a home with someone who will put the training on her to keep her out of future jeopardy. She has decent ground manners and longed nicely both directions. She has completed quarantine and is ready to go. She’d be great if you want a rescue that does not hav a lot of stuff to fix – condition is not an issue here. 413 is at the same home – she’s an early teens Arabian mare, no papers, pretty and sound, who seems to have some training but has not yet been evaluated under saddle. She is also available. E-mail me for info.
334 was young Arabian gelding Bazkheno Devinci. This guy is a doll! Just another who only needs to training. He came down with pneumonia but was quickly put on antibiotics and is recovering well. Purchased by an out of state partnership, they have struck a deal with Cowgirl Spirit to take him on for training and placement. You may recall that Cowgirl Spirit also has Ready Say Go (shown), the $50 stallion who had raced only the previous weekend. He got gelded in the sale yard and has been recuperating. He dropped weight like crazy in his few days at the sale yard and from the stress of gelding, but is currently stuffing himself with timothy hay and alfalfa pellet mush. He has healed well from gelding and is starting to be turned out with other horses, a new experience for him and one that he greatly enjoys! He got new shoes and is basically just hanging out, hoovering up food and enjoying his post-track vacation. Cowgirl Spirit can always use your donations if you’d like to help pack the weight back on this beautiful boy!
405 and her foal are back together and a blog reader tells me her feet have been done and she is getting great care. The foal is for sale (but will not be leaving until January, time to properly wean) and you can e-mail me if you want the contact information.
402 has completed quarantine and is heading off to training in Renton. He is not showing any unsoundness, although his feet are awful and the owner is currently arranging for a farrier who can help him. He knows nothing. Thanks, former owners – you suck!
408, Eeyore, is in foster care and rapidly regaining weight! He will not be sound. He needs a pet home – fortunately he is a big pet with the disposition to be a total pleasure to have around. Please contact Second Chance Ranch if you have one to offer. The tattoo is very hard to read so no ID yet but he’s believed to be 25. 417 is also available – she is an older TB mare, in great condition, sound and has been used for lessons in the past but needs a tune up. 435, the beautiful Private Account mare, is also with SCR and could use a foster home able to put some training on her. She is sound and just needs a job! 439, Ruling Flame, is busy gaining weight and will be evaluated under saddle when he has picked up enough. I think that boy is someone’s old show horse, he just strikes me that way. Very people oriented and carries himself like he is proud of himself! The latter two, shown, are IN LOVE and might be a perfect adoptive pair for someone who needs one quiet broke horse and one project.
461 went home and schmoozed up to his new owner’s husband. She is no fool. She is in her forever home.
And the unfuglybelievable colt I pictured? He got bailed out by a gal in the office. He’s safe. She got the big Appy/draft too.
Now for some good news about this month! Thanks to a tip, this time there are three OTTB’s that avoided the sale. This is not the last you’ll see or hear about these three horses, but I wanted to put them out here because Second Chance Ranch has taken them in and they could use your donations. Any little bit helps. Our hay is finally down to a reasonable price so about $8 buys a bale to feed a horse for several days. And yes, I will be following up on who dumped them – you know I will! I will tell you that I’m pretty sure it’s a repeat offender who has been mentioned on this blog before. The horses are Packed House, Face of Excess and Starryeyedprospect. They are in poor condition and are seeking good, local foster or potentially adoptive homes that are experienced with Thoroughbreds and with rehabbing a thin horse.
I know everybody loves to be part of a “save” but if you have space, please consider fostering or adopting one that is already out. If you can offer training, your help is just invaluable. To me, putting a horse on the right track for a successful life is the ultimate in rescuing. Anybody can fundraise, but the real work begins later. When you take something that is only halter broke and six months later it rides, you REALLY rescued. That’s the most important and kindest thing you can do. If you have the skills, and a place to ride in the winter, please think about making space for a project!
And then this one screamed my name…
I’m so glad I went down to the lot myself! Hana, who has been SO helpful in photographing and helping to identify horses, met me and told me she had another with a tattoo. I nearly fell over when I saw her. This is a bad camera phone pic but the mare is just gorgeous in real life!
We ran her tattoo and she is Exclusive Report, by Private Appeal out of a daughter of Silent Screen. She’s produced numerous winners. She appears extremely sound, healthy, and even had her feet done not long ago. I’m trying to trace the history – she sold at the winter WTBA last year for only $300. No one filed a breeding report so we have no idea what she is carrying. I’m hoping we can find out. Maybe it’s not a Thoroughbred, who knows. She was run through without her papers. Â
It’s payday for most of us – if you can skip a frappucino and send $5 or whatever you can spare to info@secondchanceranch.org, it would be much appreciated. She needs to get out of there.Â
And I really will write another blog post about something completely unrelated today.  Thanks for bearing with me and thanks to those who have helped get some of these horses to safety. In other related news, all the Arabs are very sweet as is 461 and they are all going home with new owners. I posted pics of Staci and Eeyore safe at KL’s to the Enumclaw Report thread. And the Fugaloosa colt was rescued by one of the office staff at the auction. He is going to have some new experiences now…like HOOF CARE. She was as appalled as I was by his condition. Who knows, maybe with some proper care he will turn out a lot better than we think – at any rate, she has a home for him once he’s fattened up and broke out next spring so that’s very good news for him!
What’s the right way for you to rescue?
This topic has been discussed a lot this week. I don’t think it’s “more right” to adopt from a rescue or to pull a horse off that ever-lurking double decker. Both types of homes are needed. The question is, which means of rescuing is right for you, if you DO want to rescue and help a horse? So let’s discuss that today and feel free to share your experiences with both! How did your auction saves turn out? Have you had a good experience with a rescue? A bad experience?Â
Some of my thoughts:
Adopt from a Rescue
Board and can only afford a limited # of horses – and they need to ride!Â
Want a kind “known quantity” horse that is likely to be suitable for a beginner to intermediate rider or a horse that is known to be a great prospect for serious competition. If you want a show horse, a rescue is the way to go – you may even find a horse with show experience.
Would really be in trouble if the horse turned out to be pregnant – no facilities for a foal or knowledge of how to handle oneWould be extremely upset if the outcome was euthanasia or have family members like children who would be extremely upset (you always have SOME risk of this but more so with an auction/kill buyer horse)
Think of horses as members of the family that you keep for life, or are fine with being restricted to only rehoming to another home that meets the rescue’s standards. Looking for a horse to keep for a long period of time.Â
Appreciate the free guidance a good rescue can offer about learning to care for, feed, and train a horse
Less of a risk taker personality. LOVE the idea that all the work is done! (If it’s not, find another rescue. One of the main points to adopting from a good rescue is that you’re getting a horse who has been fully rehabbed ALREADY.) This is the right choice if you are not knowledgeable about rehabbing a thin horse, remedial farrier care, etc.
Want to adopt specifically as a way of supporting a rescue that you know is doing great work!
Love the idea that if the horse does not work out for you, it can be returned to the rescue and you will not be stuck trying to find a home for it. Â
Everything is up to date on the horses you already own.
 Buy from the Auction or Kill Buyer
Own property – have space for horses that are not necessarily useful, enjoy having horses as pets
Experienced rider/owner who can train and deal with a variety of issues OR financially secure enough to afford several months of training without it being a hardship (and have a good trainer, who has problem horse experience, lined up).
Comfortable with risk of pregnancy. And not squeamish about the idea of utilizing Lutalyse if the pregnancy is new.
Good at recognizing illnesses, treating injuries, figuring out reasons for misbehavior, etc.
Not overly emotional – will be sad but not traumatized if the outcome is that the horse needs to be put to sleep. More of a professional horseperson mentality as opposed to a one-horse owner mentality.
Want the freedom to train/retrain the horse and resell at a profit. Or looking for a horse to keep for a short period of time, for example, you’re in the military and know you’ll be going overseas in a year or two.Â
Want to rescue a high quality registered mare that may be used for breeding eventually
Cannot meet the local rescue’s guidelines but still want to help a horse. (This is a fine line – obviously some people are rejected for a reason, but I’ve seen people rejected for a lot of reasons, not all of which were valid in my opinion.)
Have a good vet and farrier lined up.Â
Everything is up to date on the horses you already own.Â
Don’t do either if you know you are overwhelmed and are counting on donations, a promotion that hasn’t happened yet, a new job that hasn’t happened yet, the sale of another horse, the sale of anything, etc. Or if you know it’s pretty likely you’ll be suffering job loss or going through a divorce that will hurt you financially in the next year. It’s everybody’s job to evaluate their own life and decide if now is a good time to add another responsibility or not. YOU did not put the horses in the kill pen. It’s not your responsibility to get them out and it’s not your fault if they ship! If the time is not right, wait and there will be another life to save in the future when the time is right. I’m a big believer in everything happening for a reason.  And of course you can always send the money you would have spent rescuing to a good rescue – that helps save lives and does not create a situation where you’re responsible for another animal. Most rescues offer sponsorships which is a great way to help when 100% responsibility for another horse would be too great of a burden.
So let’s hear it. How did you get your rescues, if you have them? And how did they turn out?Â
Mine consist of:
- auction horse, very challenging with emotional issues. But the one before her was awesome and quiet and is trail riding everywhere (Petersburg Knight). It’s a crap shoot!
- free TB mare abandoned at breeding farm, too old to breed, sound and broke
- free mare from QH farm, too old to breed, broke but unsound
So, three rescues of which one is currently rideable (#2). She’s a sweetheart and may have a new home (cross your fingers for her please!)Â
How have yours turned out?
Ready Say Go settled right in at home and is doing fine! No worries. He had a long drink, plenty of hay and some bute to ease the swelling and pain of his gelding. Juliane says he is calm and sweet and not the least bit studdy. Donations are very welcome at Cowgirl Spirit.
From last place to first priority!
January 4, 2003 – Ready Say Go is foaled in California, the son of multiple stakes winner Poteen out of a daughter of stakes winner Strike Gold (California’s leading sire of winners).
He won a few races and made over $30,000 for his owners.Â
Like most California breds, he started out racing in California, and as his value dropped, he made his way north, winding up at Emerald Downs near Seattle. Most recently, he was owned by trailer Neil Knapp and Bob Fidler (an early third partner seems to have dropped out).
He ran August 7th in race 8 at Emerald Downs - finished last….
He was on the Vet’s list for EMD on 8/22 as “lame”
He ran September 11th in the 5th race. He broke in the lead, but finished 5th.
He ran September 27th and came in last. The trip notes from 9/27 say “far back throughout” He was not claimed out of that race, so they were his last owners at the track.
On October 4th, he was sent to the Enumclaw Auction. No attempt was made to find him a home. There is no posting for him on Dreamhorse, on Craigslist, or any other equine site that I can find. He was just dumped, without his papers to ensure no one ever raced him again.
Today, October 6th, he was gelded so that he could legally go on the crowded truck to the slaughterhouse. Not that this would change his disposition after 48 hours. He would have been just as likely to fight and flirt in the double-decker on Thursday as an intact horse, but hey, it would have been legal anyway!
Fifteen minutes ago, his bail was paid by Cowgirl Spirit Rescue Drill Team. He is going home tomorrow to a safe panel paddock where he can recover from his shocking week, relax and eat his fill of quality hay.Â
If you are too far away to help an auction horse, please consider a donation to CSRDT – their paypal is on the main page of their web site, www.csrdt.org or you can send your tax-deductible donation to Cowgirl Spirit, P.O. Box 83, Fall City, WA 98024. I will post plenty of updates about how RSG does!
MORE INFORMATION:
OK, so now the way the story goes is that someone was dispatched to take the horse to the auction with STRICT instructions not to let him go to kill.
That woman lied to the owners and said he was purchased by “a nice couple.” Yeah, a nice couple of kill buyers, Ron and Oly!
The owners are offering to help with his expenses. I appreciate that but I have to say it again:
STOP TRUSTING PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU THEY HAVE A GOOD HOME FOR YOUR FRESH OFF THE TRACK RACEHORSE!
You need to (a) site check (b) reference check and (c) do a legal contract. And I’ll tell you what, the really responsible thing to do would be pay for 3 months layup and 30 days of retraining. I can refer you to good trainers. The auction is never the answer.Â
The good news is that the horse does not have a history of unsoundness except for hoof problems. Cowgirl Spirit has a fabulous farrier so I know those will get resolved. Further good news – he is a quiet, sweet horse just as I thought.  I think his future will be bright from here on out but he VERY narrowly missed being a sandwich. Â
A few more pics of horses on the lot that are noted as being especially sweet and people friendly. The grey roan appy is #420, the bay roan appy is #422 and the Arab with the white stripe is #402. If you are interested in one, let me know at cathy@horsereunions.com.Â
PLEASE DO NOT CALL THE AUCTION HOUSE IF YOU’RE (a) NOT SERIOUS ABOUT BUYING (b) CANNOT BE POLITE AND UNEMOTIONAL! Don’t ruin it for everybody who CAN shut up about their opinions long enough to get horses to safety. You wouldn’t think I’d have to say this, but I do. Just go through me if you can’t keep your emotions in check.
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Auction Report: Toffield, Alberta, Canada
Thanks to one of my readers for passing this along! I have bolded the ones that went to the kill buyer. Most of these guys do resell, so some of these horses may not be going to slaughter but the lower priced ones almost definitely are.
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“This was the Toffield, Ab horse sale on Aug 22, 2009:
1. Mini gelding. Well broke – $ 375 – Went to a home
2. 12 yr old paint gelding – $ 1175 – Not a kids horse. Went to a home
3. 4 yr old TB gelding. 16.2 -16.3 HH. Totally kid proof. 7 yr old rode him in. Rode him bareback. Crawled underneath him. Rode him in bridle. $ 850 – went to a home
4. 7 yr old QH pony. Ranch broke. Not for kids. $ 550 – went to a home
5. 15 QH gelding. Ranch broke. Not for kids. $ 1050 – passed out
6. 18 yr old Arab gelding. Has done dressage and jumping. Ex show horse. Not bad shape but could use a few extra pounds. $ 750. Went to a home.
7. 11 yr old paint mare. Exp rider only. – $ 500 – went to a home
8. 9 yr old paint gelding. Kids horse. Rider using 1 rein to ride. $ 1450 – went to a home
9. 10 yr old Icelandic gelding. Very good shape. Just started so pretty green under saddle. Not ridden in ring cause the owner had to go to a wedding. $ 335 – went to a home.
10. 4 yr old QH/Welsh geldings X2. Came in loose. one went for $ 175, the other went for $ 160 – KB
11. 3 yr old bay mare. Racy type breed. No info on her. Quite wild $ 125 – KB
12. 3 yr old bay mare. Racy type breed. No info on her either. Very wild – $ 125 – KB
13. 5 month old QH/TB/Trek X filly – $ 90 – went to a home
14. 2 yr old draft X buckskin filly – $ 125 – KB
15. 6 yr old QH/TB sorrel gelding. Not the quietest. $ 370 – KB
16. 3 X 2 yr old racy type breeding. No info on them. 2 fillies, 1 colt. – $ 100 each – KB
17. Roan mare. Looked mid teens. Very quiet. No info but I suspect she was broke and was a kids horse. $ 360 – KB You can kick me in my fat ass for not getting her. My budget was $ 400 including transport so later on in the afternoon, I managed to find another $ 100. I went to the kill pen when the sale was done and the KB had taken them out already.
18. 2 weanlings. Bad shape – $ 80 each – KB
19. 6 yr old QH w/dk brown colt at side. Colt 4 months old. $ 550/pair – went to a home
20. 2 yr old running QH filly. Stout. 30 days on her ready for light riding. Quiet.Came with papers – $ 200 – KB. Feel free to kick me in the ass for this one too. Same kill buyer who bought the roan mare above.
21. 2 yr old running gelding. Stout. 30 days on him ready for light riding. Quiet. Came with papers – $ 700 – Went to a home.
22. Welsh mini mare. Said kid broke but showed no signs of it in the ring as she was quite wild and kicking. Was quite thin as well. Long hair – $ 30 – KB
23. 4 yr old grey roan stud. no info. Quite snarly – $ 150 – KB
24. 2 yr b/w pinto filly – on the thinnish side. – $ 100 – KB
25. QH/Welsh colt. Quite thin. – $ 275 – KB
26. QH/Saddlebred colt. Quite thin. $ 275 – KB
27. QH chestnut mare. Just weaned. Ridden last year before bred. $ 225 – KB – Kick me in the ass for this one.
28. 11 yr old QH gelding. Broke but not ridden in ring. $ 600 – went to home.
29. 4 yr old team of pony pinto geldings. Started driving. Fleshy. $ @75 for the team – went to a home
30. Pally QH yearling gelding. Very flashy. $ 410 – went to a home
31. Qh yearling gelding. Very stout.- $ 410 – went to a home
32. Arab/Saddlebred gelding. Quite wild. Could use some weight. – $ 330 – KB
33. 4 yr old pony broodmare untouched. Foal at side had a hernia the size of a coffee cup, and I’m not kidding!!!! Both needed weight. $ 60/pair. Went to a home that is questionable.
34. 4 yr old grey roan broodmare untouched. Colored foal at side. Both needed weight and a touch on the wild side. – $ 80/pair – went to a home
35. 2 yr old paint broodmare w/foal at side. Needed weight. Untouched. $ 90/pair – went to a home. KB wouldn’t even look at the auctioneer on the above 3 pairs.
36. 2 yr old mini mare possible bred to mini paintX stud. – $ 190 – went to a home
37. Yearling black mini stud. Lame on back right. – $ 200 – went to a home.
38. grey spotted appy filly. Very flashy. Untouched. $ 200 – KB
39. 10 yr old snow cap appy gelding. Broke and quiet but not rode in. Very flashy. – $ 600 – went to a home
40. Black mini stud. Halterbroke. – $ 100 – KB for rehome
41. 7 yr old QH type mare. Greenbroke but came in loose in ring. Quite wild.- $ 350 – KB
42. 3 yr old buckskin gelding. Lame on back right. – $ 260 – KB
43. 9 yr old thick red dun gelding. Greenbroke but came in with halter only. – $ 725 – went to home.
44. 6 yr old thick set appy mare. Untouched. – $ 275 – KB
45. 2 sorrel 2 yr old fillies. Untouched and needed weight. – $ 100/each – KB
46. 13 yr old QH broodmare w/snowcap appy filly at side. Filly was drop dead gorgeous. Mare went for $ 450 – KB. Filly went for $ 150 – to a good home
47. 5 yr old buckskin QH mare w/red roan colt at side. Gorgeous pair but untouched. Mare went for $ 350 – KB. Colt went for $ 160. Went to a home.
48. 4 yr old blue roan QH mare w/filly at side. Needed a little weight. Mare went for $ 350 – KB. Filly went for $ 100 – went to a home
49. 12 yr old Morgan X gelding. Had melanomas(sp) on his face and bum. – $ 50 – KB
50.3 yr old Morgan/Appy gelding. $ 300 – KB
51. 4 yr old morgan mare. Greenbroke – $ 330 – KB
52. Very fat, fat fat jenny – $ 190 – KB
53. 4 yr old TB mare. Did jumping. Needed weight – $ 380 – went to a home. Feel free to kick my ass on this one.
54. Red dun filly – $ 150 – KB
55. Red roan filly. – $ 160 – KB
56. 10 yr old bay QH type gelding. Built like a brick shithouse. – $ 540 – KB
57. 4 yr old QH type mare. Very wild – $ 260 – KB
58. 8 yr old QH type gelding. – $ 510 – KB
59. 2 yr old Welsh X gelding. Said greenbroke but came in loose and quite wild. – $ 50 – KB
60. 4 yr old Paso Fino type stud. Quite wild. – $ 340 – KB
61. 6 yr old Canadian Warmblood mare. Pigeon toed. Looked like her knee floated meaning it swayed to the outside as she landed on it. – $ 500 – KB
62. 6 yr old Canadian Warmblood mare. Quite wild and quite the kicker – $ 570 – KB
I took a break for about 1/2 hour outside as it was quite hot inside. When I came back, I think the wildest ones were kept till last.
63. 4 yr old Anglo Arab stud. No papers. Untouched. – $ 300 – KB. He would have gone to a home if the owners had registered him.
The rest that came in were yearlings that were untouched that averaged $ 100.
I kick myself for not getting a couple of them, but I had my eye on a couple of well bred, old breeding QH mares that should have gone to a home but the KB outbid me.
I definitely plan on going next month, but this time, with more money……”
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FHOTD back in: and again:
Color does not keep them safe.
Papers do not necessarily keep them safe.
What keeps them safe, as you can see from the above, is TRAINING!
So let’s say you absolutely have no choice but to take a horse to an auction. And when I say no choice, that means that you are a minor and your parents are doing this whether you like it or not. Or you are in a situation where the horse MUST be auctioned for legal reasons. (If you are just broke, get your butt down to Labor Ready.) If you are in a “no choice” situation, what is the best way to protect your horse?
1. Grooming! A bath, clipped up, etc. This shows that the horse has been worked with and that you care. It is also just like selling a car – a clean horse just looks more valuable and desirable.
2. Hoof trim! Shouldn’t cost you more than $35. Again, it makes a big difference to private buyers to see that a horse is cared for.
3. If at all possible, ride it through! You’re going to be in a round pen, so it doesn’t have to be all that broke to be successfully ridden through. The horse who is ridden through has a much better chance of survival, though it is not a sure thing. Here’s a tip: The vast majority of old broodmares, broke or not, will let you sit on them and walk around in a round pen. If you have two weeks, you can get one kind of walk-trot broke without much drama. Lift up the top lip – if there are numbers there, it IS broke (with the exception of Standardbreds but even those are trained enough that sitting on them is rarely a big deal).
4. If the horse is too young to ride, what can you teach it before the sale that will make it look good? Being able to demonstrate things like picking up feet in the ring, or better yet setting up and pivoting for halter, will drive up bids from private parties.
5. Get the papers in order. Transfer them if they’re not. Make sure you have a signed transfer ready to go. If you lost the papers, get replacements. I’ve had a kill buyer tell me flat out that he “cans grade mares.” If the mare IS in foal (*cringes*) make sure you have all the paperwork to register the foal.
Again, auctions are the WORST possible way to sell your horse, and any rescuer can tell tales of seeing clipped up, braided up horses in the kill pen. But if you have no other options, a little effort can go a long way toward encouraging a private party to choose your horse at the sale.
A small update: Jackson, the thin Thorougbred I put in the most recent SOS Equines banner, did get saved! It looks like his name is Hes Mine Tooo and he is a race winner.  He is available for adoption, as is the guy below…who just got ID’d as a son of Gulch who has raced in Great Britain! It’s amazing where they wind up, isn’t it?
