Guess who?
Jun 23 2010
I know it’s not tomorrow yet but I really wanted to post this – so feel free to scroll down and not miss today’s post, down below!
When you last heard about her on the blog, the only place she was heading for was a plate in Europe. Who can get it first – who is this pretty Arabian mare?
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I don’t know who she is, but she looks like she’s having a fun ride!
To me, her expression looks like “I’m on an outing..” with little sing-song-ness to it.
This is an ingnorant question. To my eye, she looks heavy through her barrel, not “slim and trimish”
I’m curious. Is this a normal adult horse thing, a matronly curves thing, a slightly chubby look?
My own mare got matronly by accident at three (Yes, I am a former dumb BYB) and my colt is only 2. All the other horses I know right now are fat, so my eye is a bit untrained.
Heh, I know who it is and who rescued her! As for her curves all the horses at this place have AMAZING pasture to graze on and with all of the wet weather here in the PNW this spring are quite healthy, actually most of the horses are on diets right now, lol!!!
Is it Sizzle, the Hal Gazal granddaughter from Enumclaw?
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No, although she is doing very well! She went back to her original breeder, who has decided to keep her safe for life. I got very nice pictures of the lovely barn/property she lives on again.
That’s a great ending! Thanks for letting me know!
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*perk* Did someone say Hal Gazal? I know a Hal Gazal son – yes, that’s right, son! He’s 34 or 36, still fat and full of it, even though he’s almost completely blind and living the good life with a friend of mine.
I don’t recognize this mare, but if she was headed for a dinner plate when she was first featured, I’m not sure I *would* recognize her, all shiny and beautiful like this.
This isn’t the Hal Gazal mare. This is an Echo Magniffico (sp?) granddaughter.
The Hal Gazal mare was a fleabitten gray that I basically saw from across the pen at Enumclaw and went OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? A friend of mine/reader pulled her and I was right, she had been a halter champion and her original breeder, Gretchen Halvorson, was contacted and was horrified and took her back. The mare was dumped by a woman who did not want her after she got kicked in the knee and wasn’t 100% sound.
I realize that your post was awhile back but is this horse still alive? I am very interested in contacting the owner. I have several Hal Gazel daughters. You can contact me directly at 662-341-5243 or by email m.kent.first@gmail.com
I have no idea, but she is really adorable!
I dont know who she is either but she is a very pretty girl and look at her go!
Im not up on my arabs but she looks very polish bred to me, I believe they tend to be a little stockier through the body and have the thinner throat latch? You arab folks will have to let me know cause its been a long time since I studied them pretty ray rabs (as my daughter calls them
I don’t know who she is, but I know why she’s happy. She has a rider who actually knows how to ride! They ride with a nice balanced seat, good leg position, heels down, nice drape to the rein, fingers closed, thumbs up, and they ride with confidence and relaxation that allows the rider to follow the movement of the horse. Someone was paying attention to their riding instructor! (Compare this rider to those on the “Freak of the Week” Tenn. Walker site …yikes! http://www.walkinghorsechat.com/forum/freakoftheweek1.htm )
I agree with you. I saw video and this girl did really well with staying soft and balanced on a greenie who is learning to steer and in that wiggly stage. Nicely done. She isn’t giving that mare any reason to dislike riding – that’s how it should be done.
Thanks so much for complimenting my trainer. Her name is Kim Sanderg. She is available to train so if anyone wants a good start on a horse that is done naturally by a trainer who LOVES horses…please e-mail me and I’ll hook any of you up. We can do it through my farm, or she can set something up with you (time allowing) somewhere else of your choosing. She is a carded judge as well that I am going to apprentice with and earn my own judging card over the next years. So she is available (time allowing) for shows too. Willing to travel. She is fair and a great judge, but I’m partial of course. I have been her ring steward. She will talk to each person, touch every horse….but she’s quick and effective so the show doesn’t DRAAAAAAAG on. We’ve all been to those!
DeDe is a great horse. (our barn name for Seaside Dawn) I gave her to a wonderful owner named Liz who in return paid my trainer for 30 days and I boarded her here for free after her initial save. All I did with this one is go get her, get her current and fed for a little while and then hooked her up with her wonderful owner Liz.
Liz deserves the kudos for being a REAL GOOD horse owner.
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Oh, great! I did not know she had a permanent home yet – that is great to her.
they aptly named their site. i can hardly watch that. my TWH mare is lovely in her natural gait, not a freak.
Ye gods! Those TWHs on the (yes, aptly named) Freak of the Week are NOT EVEN TWO yet!!! That noise you hear is me, gagging!
Just watching the first video, that poor colt (NOT STALLION, he’s not even two yet!) was pushed by Saggy McButtrider until, at the end each way, the colt’s rear end gave out. Sickening, and sick.
Is there a reason they sit slouched over with their legs flapping everywhere? Surely they don’t ride that way in shows!?
A-yup, they sure do. And they sit so far back that sometimes the horse’s rear end collapses. Never seen anything like it.
I have a Walker whose ‘call name’ has strangely morphed into Pad the Man (Highlanders Paddy… and he truly thinks he is The Man, all 15h of him) The Man will never wear stacks or be heavy shod, or shod at all unless something awful happens and it is required for awhile. My other horse is part walker, and registered SSH… had she gone to a ‘show barn’ for her flashy coloring, she’d be up on stacks or at least plantation shod racking around with her butt tucked under just like those videos… and she’d be outright dangerous by now.
A friend who bred Walkers for awhile used to send his off to train at a TWHBEA barn, under a trainer who has been cited and suspended since then for soring violations. Once, I went with him and his wife to a show — and there were a couple of padded classes, horses rocketing around just like the freaks in these videos. I gave him my standard speech about ‘performance’ gaits being an aquired taste.. they looked in pain, to me. You see horses doing all manner of fancy maneuvers on their own, in the pasture… but never, EVER do you see *that* in a horse left to its own devices.
Many of the horses on the ‘Freak’ page WILL end up lame, permanently, or dead.. those stacks put the entire skeleton out of alignment… and they start stacking the ones bound for the performance ring as yearlings. I’d LOVE to see Gerd Heuschmann get interested in this particular ‘discipline’ and apply his knowledge of anatomy and physiology to the abuse being placed on walking horses that are made to walk this particular walk…
Just recently I attended the Germantown Charity Horse Show, which is my yearly foray into seeing gaited horses. I was taking photos, so I spent a lot of time at the rail, as well as going back to the warm up ring.
I’m convinced that they don’t just LOOK in pain, they ARE in pain. I have owned and been around horses for over 30 years, as well as working summers at a large animal vet, and I know what a horse’s facial expression is when it’s in pain. The clincher for me was when they stopped a class to deal with a tack problem, and I was right next to one of the horses. He looked right into my eyes, and his face was so miserable. I’m not stupid. I know horses. No one can talk me into believing that I didn’t see what I saw. If this horse was a person, he would have been crying.
Stand behind them when they canter, and a lot of the time you can see their hocks swivel sideways because they can’t bear the weight of being built up in front like that. Twice I saw a horse literally collapse in the back end – thought it was going to go down, but apparently it’s used to it, and stood right back up. It’s shameful and it’s horrible, and even if they eliminate all soring it will still be shameful and horrible. Dog show people don’t make poodles wear high heels so they “walk cuter.” Why do we tolerate this in horses?
Visit the FOSH – Friends of Sound Horses – website for all the nuts and bolts horrors of what these horses go through. I’ve personally rehabbed 2 ex-padded horses, both with major stifle issues and badly out-turned front fetlocks and hooves from being “padded” from the time they were babies. Both are contented trail horses today, barefoot and so naturally gaited they absolutely won’t tolerate a rider who tries the “forced headset” on them.
One big problem is that they’ve bred the gait out of them in favor of spots and bigger horses – foundation TWH’s were never 16.3HH, and though many were sabino, tobiano came from outcrossing – and they don’t care because they can slap the “package” (ie, chains, pads and chemicals) on a pacing horse and make it gait.
Imagine my horror when attending my first TWH show (having been raised AQHA/APHA), when the audience starts catcalling out their favorite number to the judge!!! There are dumb rednecks in every state, and unfortunately this breed is quietly forgiving enough to be ridden by the majority. Even though, BTW, the majority of TWH owners only trail ride and even a small percentage of those who show, show padded horses.
WTF?? I just clicked on the top link — it was a stud colt NOT EVEN TWO YET! Is there any chance he will still be sound when he actually IS old enough to ride??
If this is what people want, they should get marionettes instead — these poor horses are practically at 45-degree angles! No wonder the riders lean over, sit on the horse’s kidneys and need all kinds of breastplates or whatever to keep the saddle on. It’s disgraceful. And so peculiar looking — it’s like those kids’ stilt shoes you could make out of tin cans with strings on them, only these are nailed into the poor animal.
Also what I find odd is that “Freak of the Week” does not turn out to be a pejorative — they are boasting about how many transactions these postings have generated.
Seaside Dawn.
Is it Seaside Dawn Delight?
Yes, it is!
$60 at the Enumclaw sale last fall…daughter of a National Champion, but barely halter broke. Now on the road to success!
I want her!!! Lol, I seriously need to get a place where I can have a couple horses again. ./sigh This apartment thing is the worst.
This may sound pretty generic, but was it that untrained Arabian mare a crazy lady in California was giving away for free? I can’t find the original post, but I remember her babbling on about God in the ad, and calling the mare a diva.
I remember that! Wonder what happened to her? But that mare was a palomino, I’m pretty sure. Didn’t look like this one at all.
I remember that one! Super pretty flaxen mane chestnut.
I wonder what did happen to her?
I can not remember her full name, but it was something Till Dawn? Is that right?
OTS: I have been on a rescue group’s fB page debating with a killbuyer that says horses are no different that cows or chickens for several hours now. Please, everyone, help. nothing I say seems to get to her. the rescue group is mississippi horses. I know folks in the south are just plain ignorant. But I’m trying to change that. There are a few of us anyway. But let’s get behind this rescue group and help stand them up.
“Never get into a fight with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig loves it.” No offense to pigs
How about expending your passion writing letters to newspaper editors, urging people to join the HSUS or the like in stopping transport to slaughter in Canada and Mexico? Then you can influence a whole bunch of people who may be willing to do something. There are millions of people doing nothing on the issue ONLY because they don’t know it’s happening, or how bad it is.
Or volunteer with a rescue group, and write press releases/fundraising letters on their behalf. Or, there’s always finding an interpreter who can help you write letters to the media in Europe and Japan, informing them of all the nasty chemicals in horse meat. Send along video links of slaughter, too.
If anyone thinks that the new Canadian law requiring horse owners to provide 6 months worth of medication records is going to discourage selling to auction, they’re nuts. People will simply pay cash for wormer and bute. “There, inspector, my horse is clean.”
As for Southerners, I wouldn’t be so quick to stereotype. I live in Canada, not too many miles from a slaughter plant. Yes, us polite, civilized Canadians tolerate kill trucks rattling through our streets—even during the recent Olympics. The kill buyers loaded up race horses right next to the figure skating venue, in fact. How graceful. We killed over 100,000 horses last year. So you best look to the character in people, rather than where they live.
Me, I wrote to 500 people in my professional and friend network today about how to support our new anti-slaughter Bill, the first one ever tabled in Canadian Parliament. I’m hoping for lots of support from Canadians, and from Americans who are working to stop transport. Google: Alex Amananenko, Horse Slaughter for more info on the Bill.
Dump the stupid sociopathic kill buyer, and join us!
haha, my step dad is fond of “never get into a pissing contest with a skunk”.
” I know folks in the south are just plain ignorant. But I’m trying to change that.”
Seriously? Did you really just type that? There are ignorant people all over the world. Ignorance is not isolated to one area of the United States. Believe it or not, people in the South take care of their horses just as well as anyone else. Some of the nicest stables in the country are in Virginia and Florida. We aren’t all back yard breeders who keep our horses in barbed wire and ride our yearlings. In fact, I live in rural North Carolina, and do not know one person who fits that description. YOU are the ignorant one. Think next time before you type something so rude and offensive.
Also, I find it extremely unlikely that you are going to change a killbuyer’s mind. That is their profession, and they obviously know of all the hardships that slaughter puts on horses. They don’t care; that’s why they continue to do it.
Sorry to take away from the lovely mare. She’s gorgeous, and I’m so so happy she’s on her way to success! She looks like a happy girl!
Pearls before swine, Pamiekay. Make your statement, then save your breath and your time for those whose minds MIGHT be changed by logic and reason. The sooner you ignore him/her, the sooner he’ll shut up and go away. And thanks for the great work you and Mississippi Horse do.
not everyone in the South is ignorant. believe me.
I’m sorry, what? I think the ignorant one here is you for making statements as dumb and offensive as “I know folks in the south are just plain ignorant”. Ignorance is everywhere and it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference where someone comes from.
I was born and raised on a farm in South Carolina, and my family had tons of acreage, weed-free coastal bermuda grass, safe fencing, and 25 fat, happy, and healthy horses of ages ranging from a few months to 40. We had the vet and farrier out on a regular basis, we gelded more than we bred, we were gentle and patient in our training (NO ONE was ridden until they were at least 3 1/2 yrs), and all of the horses we sold went to good homes. If we had a sick or injured horse, we tried our best to make sure they made it and that their quality of life was good…and if we couldn’t save them, we had them put to sleep with all the dignity we could give them. We NEVER sent our horses to slaughter, nor did my family condone abuse. In fact, I’ve been a volunteer for horse rescues for 11 years now, and my family was part of their foster-rehab-rehome program.
Like my grandfather always said “Stereotypes are like assholes…they’re only good for starting shit”.
My sister from North Carolina would say ‘well bless your heart”
Fighting with people who are set in their ways like that is like banging your head against a brick wall to knock it down. You’re only going to get hurt and the wall isn’t going to budge.
I go through this same problem with people who still support the Big Lick horse. These are people who were born and raised to like it and to support it, whether soring goes on or not. And they truly, truly believe that soring is okay–the rest of us “just don’t understand.” It’s why the practice still continues and why they are fighting with the USDA to make them stop doing their job.
Your best bet is to do what Treasure said: put your fight somewhere else. Politely bow out of the conversation (“I’m sorry you feel this way and I hope you change your ways someday”) and then start supporting groups who will make a difference. A battle against someone who’s set in their ways is not one you will win. Believe me, I’ve tried!
I have had epic debates with someone IN A RESCUE GROUP who insists that until homes are available for all horses, slaughter should not be stopped. NO MATTER how cruel, barbaric, unethical the process, no matter how many ways I have found to state that slaughter is a demand-driven business and that if there is demand, someone will supply it, unless it’s made illegal (OK there will still be illegal activity but not the major flow there is now) — all I get is the same insistence that there have to be homes first or else the horses will suffer. Facts, videos, eye-witness accounts of how they suffer now — no effect. It has been very hard to stay polite in order not to get kicked off the board (very rule-driven).
This is a person who knows firsthand the quality of horses that go to slaughter and actually helps rescue them. Like a brick wall. So don’t feel bad that you can’t change the mind of an actual KB. Who knows, the arguments you’ve honed today could serve you well in a more promising situation later on.
I know folks in the south are just plain ignorant
Really? I honestly can’t believe you wrote that. I was about to flip out, but AllieDay’s comment was exactly what I wanted to say. Thanks Allie!
Well…shoot. She looks familiar, but then again, they always do.
I got nothing, in this case.
At least she’s in a good home now!
I saw this mare go through at Enumclaw and just thought, wow, what a fancy little mover. She is not a big mare but she is super, super cute. I was so glad she got to safety, because she simply never had a chance – 6 years old and unstarted, dumped at the auction. Now she is already SO much further along the road to a successful life and a job.
As always, I encourage any of you who are capable of putting that first 30 or 60 days on a horse to just go grab one like her this summer. They’re at auctions everywhere, and they won’t cost you more than $100 or even less. Grab one like her that is a good little horse that never got a fair chance and change their life. It’s one of the most valuable things you can do with your time.
She’s adorable!
I’m smiling at the comments because I just recently got my head taken off on a model horse forum for daring to insinuate that real Arabians, unlike model ones, are frequently shortish in the neck and thick in the body.
My real live old-fashioned 14-hand Arabian with a three-hundred-year pedigree is even chunkier than the mare pictured; the only difference is that Lexie’s neck is thicker so she appears more in proportion. I think those snake-necked scrawny modern things are ugly.
Well, I’ll tell you what, the snake-necked modern things seem to have a lot of crap legs below the knee. Priorities seem to have fallen by the wayside. I’ve seen some that are SO DAMN PRETTY if you don’t look at their legs but, you know, horses are for riding, you NEED LEGS!
Question about Aye-rabs (as my dad calls them): Why do some have the cutest hind end- nice and round, with tail set high like it is supposed to be, but a lot of them have what can only be described as triangle-ass? I am fairly sure it isn’t lack of conditioning b/c I see it horses that I know are getting worked but still have that unfortunate hind end. I am not sure if it is related but it seems to go with being a bit stiff in the hocks, too.
There is the absolute CUTEST arab heiney at the barn where I am now. I swear I want to bite it. He is not a cross. NIce round guy, does very well in dressage.
I have really been impressed by this barn’s breeding program. A long term endeavor that has yielded some nice Oldenburg/Arabs with good bone, not flightly, fantastic trots with great suspension. They all go to the evaluations & get branded, most are premium grade.
I honestly think the reason this woman has been so successful is that she didn’t get sucked into the stupid $$$$$$ arabs in the 80s. She saw the breed getting ridiculous and decided to go the sport horse route instead. The barn is run down, but dang the horses move nice.
So, anyway, is the triangle butt more common in some lines? please explain. Has it always been around? Does it serve a purpose I am not aware of? I know nothing about Polish v Egyptian v Russian, etc. What IS the deal? I always wanted to ask this but figured it would be insulting. Again, they don’t all have them but there are so many out there.
Deb Bennet says it is NOT due to their vertebrae or shorter femur. so then what?
It’s possible that the “triangle-butt” Arabians you mention contain a great degree of one particular strain, like perhaps Abeyan, which were known for straight hind legs but great speed. But, I’m guessing they are just examples of bad breeding, a result of breeding for one feature like a pretty head and ignoring the rest.
As for “Polish Arabian”, “Russian Arabian”, “Crabbet” and the others… these terms reflect the breeding programs that generated the lines. Polish horses were known for their athletic ability, but not always looks; Russian were known for racing and endurance (since their primary stock were marched across Russia after being taken from Poland… only the strongest survived the march.) etc. “Straight Egyptian” and “Egyptian related” refer to how much of the horse’s pedigree can be confirmed to trace back to known desert-bred stock. Folks generally confuse “Egyptian” with wispy, snake-necked individuals… but this is not correct, it really depends on the strain and breeding of the horse.
My gelding is “Egyptian Related” .. his sire was “Straight Egyptian”.. yet you’d never accuse him of being “wispy” or having a triangle butt!
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I had always heard it was because they are suppose to have a relatively roomy rib cage/lung capacity for long, fast trips in the desert. Am I making that up? Sometimes I do that. :0)
Gorgeous mare! So glad she got where she needed to go!
Anyone figure out who dumped this mare at the auction? I ask because I looked at an Arab mare about a year-an-a-half ago by the same sire, and the person advertising her had several Arabians by that same stallion really cheap. As in… way too many horses. Not starving, but certainly not thriving, either. One of those looney tunes Arabian breeders who will talk bloodlines all day long, but has made way too many horses, and is up to their necks in Arabians.
I saw this mare on the SAFE board and see another TB, Eeyore, was dumped at the same Enumclaw sale by a woman I turned in to Animal Control just a couple months before that particular sale. A self-proclaimed “rescue” with starving horses tucked in every nook and cranny, NO FEED, pregnant mares everywhere, and a couple stallions. Her place was such a pit, it looked like hell on earth for horses. Her claim of rescuing horses was bullshit, since she’d had several of these horses for more than a year, and they were actually worse since she acquired them (I got photos from previous owners). Mostly, she picked up cheap horses, tried to resell them before they looked too bad, while the unsold horses gradually became emaciated. She’d pile her 4-H kids and newbies on for lessons until the horses were simply too bad off to be ridden any longer, then claim she was rehabbing them. (Think MeSue.)
A c**t of the highest order. I can’t say I was surprised to see she was the fatass who dumped a couple at Enumclaw. No doubt, her shithole of a farm is still littered with skinny horses. At least at the time, Animal Control seemed content to monitor their weight loss from a distance while the most inept vet in the county gave the “rescue” owner a thumbs-up for her efforts to keep them breathing. Never mind she was the cause for their misery.
A clusterfuck of epic proportions.
Yes. She was dumped by Rochelle Sutphin. Rochelle did not want her after she got kicked in the knee by another horse and wasn’t 100% sound anymore. Lovely.
As for Eeyore, he is great! Here is the follow up post about him.
http://fuglyblog.com/?p=1415
Oh my…I did not know that Eeyore had been dumped at that auction by a “rescuer”. That really does add to the feel good aspect of him ending up in such a great situation.
Well, I surely wouldn’t call her a rescuer but, you know, she’s the typical type that gets featured here. She was CALLING herself one, yes.
Yes, it was very nice to hear about Eeyore. It’s a wonder what FEEDING them and veterinary attention from a REAL vet can do. The faux rescuer doesn’t believe in either. Apparently, she does believe in letting kill buyers take care of her oopsies. It gives her another slot to fill with the next poor horse she can starve and neglect.
She looks sooo happy. Makes me happy just to look at her..
I’m not an Arab person, but that little mare is just adorable. She looks so happy, eager, willing to learn and try. I’m sure she’ll be awesome what she does in the future. Heck, she’s cute enough to just sit around and be loved on, and I bet she’d love that, too. Kudos to her rescuer!
The man (a horsetrader with a good reputation) who sold my horse to me said, “Every horse needs groceries and a job to do.” Even if that job is pasture pal or companion, the job part is important.
I’d like a before and after of her in another post… is that possible, she is gorgeous! She is holding herself quite well and her rider is helping her very well in her position. Glad this one made it! I am all for rescuing… all of my horses are rescues in one way or another… either they were going to auction / slaughter (none of them were trained / wanted) or they WERE in auction, emaciated and sore. They are all amazing horses with a great heart and unconditionnal love. I tear up just thinking about all they had to endure and they still enjoy human companionship. Horses are the greatest living creatures!
She actually never looked bad physically at the auction – she was just totally untrained. Wild as a March hare, 6 years old, and had never done a thing. So she sold for $60 to kill and was fortunately bailed out and is now in training.
THAT is what I like to see!!!
I did a little searching, and here are the previous posts that mention this mare:
http://fuglyblog.com/?p=1164
http://fuglyblog.com/?p=1268
It’s ‘mad as a march hare’. It comes from the breeding season when the males would start acting frisky in the fields.
You could say:
“As wild as the untamed West”
“As wild as a five year old with a few cups of coffee.”
“As wild as the ocean.”
or my personal favorite:
“As wild as…um…something really wild…”
http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/wild-as-march-hare.html
I’ve never owned an Arabian, nor had the desire to…but this little gal could change my mind! She is absolutely gorgeous! I love her cute little head, and she has the most pleasant expression! I could see me checking the cows on her, LOL…..but not sure what my husband would think! To him, there is no other kind of horse but a quarter horse. I am soooo glad someone changed this horse’s life, she looks great!
http://horsefilleddays.blogspot.com/
Cute, cute little mare! I love the little ones.
Have you seen our boy Bazkheno Divinci (3 yo Arab gelding from the same sale) lately? I check Cowgirl Spirit’s web site from time to time but would love to know how he’s doing since I last saw him (December).
That was quite a scramble we had after the October sale, but it seems like all the horses saved have turned out really well. Heartwarming…
DeannaJ give those Arabs a try! My gelding has plenty of good bone, he’s short coupled, wide chested and got stamina for days without being a nut case. I’ve actually had a hard core rancher offer to buy him for working cows. They’re out there
She is so pretty and has such a beautiful, happy expression on her face. I bet she is a thrill to ride, and looks like she would just float down the trail. Great job in giving her what she should always have had…..somebody to love & care for her properly and give her a job to look forward to. Awesome!
SO cute!!
My favorite type of Arabian. Good Arabians are like good anything else: beautiful AND useful.
This post is giving me a major rescue Jones! I wish I could pay board on two horses, but my one (slaughter rescue himself) guy is all I can afford right now, both time-wise and in terms of money. But as soon as I’m able I do plan to pick up a kill buyer horse to put that 30-60 days on and find them a home where they’ll be cherished. Of course, my TB was SUPPOSED to be one of those, but now there’s no way I’m giving him up unless he gets to the point where he’s gone beyond what I can do with him in the show ring and someone amazing wants to buy him with an iron clad first right of refusal contract. But as long as I’m enough rider for him, he’s MINE!
That is one fine looking Arab, and such balance! I’d bet the previous owner(s) would be knocking their heads against a wall if they saw that picture. Maybe offer a few thousand to get her back? But that would only lead them to dumping her later, after she got too old to show, or didn’t give them the foal(s) they thought she should produce. She’s obviously in a much better palced. DeannaJ (above) might do well to get an Arab like her to work the cattle, etc. they’re not all like what you see in the show rings, or magazines…some have brains and personalities!
Oh, the gal she came from was just typically clueless…she just did not seem concerned at all that the mare had almost died. Kind of, oh well, we thought that might happen.
I was going to have breakfast, but after seeing those poor yearlings on Freak of the Week I think that I will put it off for an hour or so. Seeing the older horses was no better either. How could anyone claiming to love horses do that stuff to them?
Because many of the trainers maintain that it isn’t cruel, that they (the horses) love to do it, and that the mean ole USDA is picking on them.
I really wish that such wasn’t the case. It seems like in every discipline, there are people who take a partial truth and shift it to fit their own idea of the truth. It’s no different than race horse trainers saying that their horses all love to run, so running them as yearlings with riders on their backs isn’t cruel. Or western pleasure horses are built to move low and slow, so it’s okay to have them all move that way. Or … the list goes on and on.
In theory, putting heavier shoes on a horse to make its legs show more action isn’t any more cruel than putting on high heels to go to a party. The problem is with the fact that not all women can wear heels, and heels aren’t designed to be worn 24/7. And let’s face it, if a woman puts on heels and still looks like a hag, no one is going to add chains to her ankles and a little mustard oil to give her that ‘look’.
It starts pretty normal, but when we are IN an industry, and see it day after day, it becomes easier and easier to fool ourselves into thinking what we are doing is okay. That’s why it is so important to really look around, and really listen to outsiders. They might be wrong (I had one person assure me that it was cruel to tie horses in their stalls, ever, for any reason), but at least they have a different perspective without the dullness that comes from constant exposure.
Also, the woman puts the shoes on her own feet, and she can take them off if she wants to. And, as I noted earlier, they are not nailed on…
This is off topic. My Thoroughbred is now officially retired due to a clicking knee. It is sad as he is only rising 16. Advice on how to make his life happier will be keenly appreciated. He is on 24/7 turnout on pasture with a shelter and company. Rugged (horse blanket?) in winter and as much hay as he can eat. (They grow their own hay.) Plus of course the usual feet, worming and teeth. There is also the option of hard feed should he need it. What else could I do for him please?
PS We are in Australia and there is no snow where he is.
Sounds great. Just add a buddy that is a similar temperament, so that there isn’t drama, and he’ll be a happy boy.
If he misses being caught and worked with, do they have Showmanship class down there? I know that here, you would not likely be dinged in Showmanship for a horse being a bit lame. It’s all about condition and grooming and manners. It’s an in-hand class where you are judged on how well you show the horse and the horse’s conformation, movement, etc. doesn’t count – just his manners.
Hi Fugly,
He’s not lame at the moment. His flexion test is a 2 out of 5 and his knee clicks audibly. The vet saw him on Wednesday. He could do very light work, as in no fast work, no jumping, no twisting or turning or anything else that would would put pressure on his knee. He is currently out with a two year old because he is too energetic for the thirty plus year olds and he cannot go in with my older pony, because my pony hates him. My horses are at a retirement facility and not near me. To visit them, I use public transport, leave home at 4.15am and get home at midnight. I will endeavour to visit them more often as Hank is a horse who loves to be loved. We don’t have Showmanship classes here. If I felt a wild urge to show, Kippen (the pony in my avatar) is still more than capable of doing his breed classes, ridden and led.
My immediate reaction was to want to put Hank on a joint supplement but the vet said that the cost would far outweigh the slight benefit he would get. As you have a lot of experience with older horses, I am keen to know your opinion.
Oh, I think joint supplements help but they don’t necessarily have to be expensive joint supplements. I get great results with Yucca, which is cheap (at least here it is!)
LOVE the happy face, happy ending. OneMudyTB I am in the same boat as you sort of. My overemotional moment of weaknes I love my mare I wanta baby now is a stunning, smart, brave, curious, fast learner 4 year old. I suspect the best thing for herreally would be somebody else to free lease or co-own her for her prime competition years. I am just a happy to mosey along trail rider. My girl is half Arabian half Mustang bred to be my endurance horse but I am probably never going to do more than LD myself. If anyone is coming to the Sporthorse Nationals in Nampa this fall and wants to meet her just email me.
I’ll be there with my two Arabians and I’d love to meet her! I don’t know your email, but mine is tamara @ thewonderpony.com
Canada possibly ban horse slaughter!? Found this article about a bill that still has to go through the government put, it seems possible from this article.
http://www.barnmice.com/profiles/blogs/important-alert-canada-has-its
I am sorry for being off-topic but does anyone remember the post a year or two back regarding a rider with the funkiest pants known to man? I flipped through the archives and couldn’t find it! I need a giggle. Badly. LOL
Here you go. I have to admit, that was one of the funniest things ever. Those…pants! Scary pants, scary saddle, scarier equitation.
http://fuglyblog.com/?p=217
You made my day! Thanks!
OT but not sure where else to post. Check this news article out:
http://www.kgw.com/news/Horse-found-in-Sherwood-minus-owner-97075674.html
Is this the new form of abandonment…urban equine abandonment. How can you NOT notice a horse missing???!!!
She’s a cute little mare!
Also, this is OT of the post, but semi-relevant to a post a few weeks back. Video was posted to, of all places, FailBlog today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fK1WBrezYE
Woman looks like she was nearly trampled when the stallion pulled her off her own horse.
Wow this was amazing.. I can’t believe these chicks were so clueless and stupid on their horses! Her stallion is sitting there TEASING the mare! She’s too busy not paying attention to anything to actually notice!
Why Oh Why Would they have a stallion and not notice what he is doing!?!?!?!?!?! Was she clueless to the fact that she was sitting on a stallion?? 1 IMPORTANT tip to know when you are riding a stallion: Keep his face out of the mares hind end… esay enough, right!? The girl on the mare must’ve got really hurt, the stallion is swinging his legs all around her!!! Clueless idiots! If the stallion rider would’ve disengaged his rear end, he wouldn’t have mounted the mare, she did nothing! Someone could’ve been killed!
Okay, I really hate to push the race card, but…
…. Many more photos, videos, or incidents like these, and I’m going to start having to agree with the evaluation of the Hispanic culture that allows young riders near unbroke or half broke stallions. That was an epic fail from start to finish, with not ONE person nearby who knew how to deal with the situation.
Heck, the girl on the mare was too frelling stupid to even quit laughing, with the stallion ON her.
Ouch, that’s gotta hurt being slammed down on concrete. I think I would have bailed long before this girl did!
Speaking of rescues and horses who have been seen here before…a certain Freisian we’ve seen before is back at his regular home. Does that look like stallion fencing to you? One good push and he’d be right through that gate: http://twitpic.com/1ze08o
And he’s right next to a mare who has had two foals (she came to the rescue with one foal outside and one inside), the latest is a few months old. At least there is hotwire along the fence line, but the lack of it at the gate and putting him right next to a mare strikes me as a rather poor idea: http://twitpic.com/1ze0no
Oh, I know. Frying pan, fire…JUST GELD IT, PATRICIA! It is NOT STALLION QUALITY! And you are just going to have MORE oops foals!
Had to comment on the “horse found in Sherwood…”. A friend of mine lost her horse while on a trail ride in a state park. (Horse spooks and off she went and horse made tracks out of there!!) She reported lost horse to local sherrifs office. Person who happened to find horse (several miles away and completely out of the park) called the sherrifs to report finding horse. Apparently the sherrifs office didn’t take the reports seriously and didn’t make reports/speak to others in the office. Friend called every day for 5 days and finder called every day for 5 days. On day 6 someone in the sherrifs office FINALLY put 2 + 2 together and my friend waas reunited with her horse.
That sorta happened to my husband when we were visiting Florida — he left his wallet on the roof of the car (and his hat and his camera, and THEY got caught on the roofrack! yes, I know…) and he called the police of the town to report it just in case, and to explain that he was not at his northern address but visiting locally. Well, someone had walked in with it but the one who took custody of it and the one who answered the phone did not apparently have the habit of comparing notes. So instead of getting it back the next day, he got it back when we got home. In the mail.
Off topic, but take a look at this contraption, the “Horse Hugger Training System:”
http://www.horsehugger.net/Learn_more.html
I’m not generally an Arab fan, but what a little cutie patootie! She certainly has a look of “fun” about her!
It looks like the stallion not only tried to mount the mare but also the rider. That was seriously scary and a good reminder that no matter how much you trust your horse, always, always stay alert!
Hi was just wondering, this has nothing to do with this post, but what ever happened to all the islandic ponies?
Still being adopted out!
I don’t remember when you posted about them, but who would I contact regarding getting information about adopting one?
http://www.nickibranch.com/falconridge/
She can hook you up!
What a coincidence that you should mention Baz (now known as Devinci). He was JUST adopted officially a few days ago and he is currently in professional training. I am sure the Cowgirl Spirit page will reflect this very soon. Thanks for asking about him.
Yes, in fact they have sent me pictures which I will post soon – sorry, busy week!
Very happy ending for some Arabians from that sale! Under saddle and doing GREAT!
As I was one of the original “bailers” of Baz, I am so happy to hear he has his own person! I will be eternally grateful to Cowgirl Spirit for taking him in. Good luck to his new adopter and if they want to get the complete story of how he was rescued, just let me know.
Good luck Baz baby!
She is just adorable. I’d take her in a minute!
Long time reader, first time poster. I remeber the post she was in, wow, she is completely adorable! I’m a sucker for little Arab faces!
Well she is cute and definatly not lacking for groceries. i am glad she was rescued from slaughter. I hope she has a good life now on.
Many TWH riders and trainers are wickedly gross looking when riding. Some make me want to gag a maggot. Some look like turtles when riding.
My two cents on the stallion: He should not have been there in the first place. Secondly if you cannot keep your stallion under control you dont need to be exhibiting him in a group of horses that might contain a mare. Thirdly GELD THE DAMN THING! Fourthly: ever heard of the one rein pulley?????? How about moving his rear end around????? sitting there holding on via straight rein giving the horse more leverage to do what he did is just poor horsemanship. The girl had a crop for crying out loud. The stallion was nibbling the mare’s quarters and the girl just “yelled’ at him like an mere after thought. There must be a “Dumb Asses R Us” store in every country.
This is WHY stallions get a bad reputation. No shit, you can’t fall asleep up there. His nose should never have been where it was to begin with!