Oh…so…BUSTED
Jun 02 2010
If you say you check references, you might want to ACTUALLY CHECK REFERENCES.
C’mon folks, wise up, and stop handing out horses like gumdrops to everyone who applies just so you can scream about your numbers saved. Horse rescue is not McDonald’s and the goal is QUALITY, not QUANTITY!
For those of you not planning to lie on your applications and who want an “A” show quality rescue horse, check out Preston at Angel Acres, below!
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Also – URGENT TODAY
Thoroughbreds in need of homes TODAY, free for the taking, I’m not involved in any way – just posting it and will give you the contact information if you are SERIOUSLY INTERESTED…please don’t waste anyone’s time. If you’re local and serious, e-mail me for a contact number.
Peaceful Dawn 2002 – 5/10 colt didn’t know if he had papers or not, but registerable colt.
1990 Andover Ally – colt 5/16 papers misplaced, foals are registerable
2001 Celestial Touch – 4/8 colt yes papers
2005 Midnight Service – 4/20 filly yes papers
2003 Star Valley – 5/1 filly yes papers
2002 TC Blue Eyes – 5/20 colt – papers not readily available
1990 Seattle Slew Mare, bred, but not checked – papers
1991 Looney Moon – lost her colt, she’s open yes papers
1990 Slew five Oh – not reproductively sound – papers
Elegant Angel – sound, cribber, only one of the bunch 1999. Potential for riding horse. Uncomplicated. 16H Big boned, nice mare. Papers might be at racing office, but not in his possession. Foals are registerable.
3 mares with hind end issues – 1991 Janitrix, 1996 Noble Satin Doll, 1992 (didn’t get the name, cell dropped the call). He said they are not riding candidates – companion only or broodmares. One is a stakes producer, one has an incredible family. Cannot be field kept, will need TLC. No papers in hand at this time, but all foals can be registered.
Horses are in Westtown, Orange County, NY and will need to be trailered. Right now they are FREE and clean of infectious diseases. Going to auction very fast if not rehomed.
“Horses are in Westtown, Orange County, NY and will need to be trailered. Right now they are FREE and clean of infectious diseases. Going to auction very fast if not rehomed.”
Why aren’t you crucifying this person????
Care to enlighten us why this is OKAY???
I never said it was okay. He’s clearly another irresponsible person who knew he was in foreclosure and failed to take any action while he still had time to do so. However, at this point I’d like to see the horses go somewhere other than into a can and that’s the only reason I cross-posted it.
From what I’ve heard, the owner has been trying to GIVE these horses away for several months, with no takers. He now has 10 days to vacate the property where they are kept. Hence taking them to Camelot. I believe several are now spoken for, and various rescue groups have committed to finding them homes in the next week, so they’re not going to auction … yet. They still need homes though.
I’ll never understand why free horses will sit for months (if the owner is careful not to give them to a kill buyer), but it takes the threat of auction, or the horses actually going to auction (where they now must be bought) to get anyone off there asses and helping.
Unfortunately, it’s the catch-22 of rescue. When you ask people nicely to help, no one does. When you threaten to take them to auction, all of a sudden here are money and homes.
It always works that way. The rescues are hamstringed because people don’t give unless there is a threat. I don’t mean all people – I know some of you do. But a LOT of people ONLY give when “the truck is coming” and there is an imminent threat.
That said, this is the FIRST I have heard of it. I wish some rescue that hadn’t been able to take them in had AT LEAST photographed them and put their names, pedigrees, etc. on the web and gotten the networking going! That might have actually helped.
OMG Preston is a cutie! He needs to be in a fancy barn with color-coordinated blankets and tack trunks.
LOL he kind of already is, Angel Acres is pretty classy as rescues go, but I agree that is his world and he needs to be in it forever with one lucky owner. That is one heck of a nice horse!
He is pretty cute, but IMO, they need to post some much nicer video clips. The horse does not look sound to me when the video begins, he’s not really going forward or tracking up, and ideally, for only a few more seconds of footage, the horse should go in both directions. I only say this because I think he is a quality horse that deserves some better advertising. If I were looking to buy or adopt and that 46 seconds was all I had to narrow down the possibilities? I’d pass.
I am shocked that NO ONE is calling Fugly Cathy out on this one. “quality not quantity”. What should be done with the horses that no one wants?? Put down?? At who’s cost??? The rescue? The vet?? Who should flip the bill???? I vote that Fugly pay for every unwanted horse’s euthanasia across the country. Why don’t you post your home address so that people can start dumping their unwanted, old, ill, retired, ex racers, poor conformation, ex-schooling horses, and those that someone tried to rescue and found themselves over their head in money or training at your home. I bet after 10 horses show up you are sick of dumping money into them. Recently there was a story about a man who couldn’t afford to feed his horse. He couldn’t afford the grain or the hay. He didn’t own a trailer and he couldn’t get a rescue or humane organization to come and get the horse. The horse was very old and was losing weight. The man couldn’t bear to see this happening and he didn’t want to put his horse on the kill truck even though the $50 would have paid for the man’s groceries or at least one of his medications that he couldn’t afford on his newly found salary when he was “downsized” from his company of 24 yrs. So, he did the only thing he thought of to do. He put a bullet between the horse’s eyes and the horse went down instantly without pain. Unfortunately, his neighbor who had a personal beef with the horse owner (something about a fence, the horse owner took down barb fifteen years earlier and replaced it with mesh and one line of white tape electric but the neighbor didn’t like it because he felt that coyotes would now get into his sheep) Anyway, the neighbor called a humane organization, the same one who refused the horse just a few weeks earlier and the humane organization pushed for animal cruelty. Luckily, the sheriff didn’t prosecute but someone else did. Animal rights people started having a field day with this and again, the mob mentality set in. This man was persecuted until he had a heart attack one day on a street in town, when an out of towner (presumably someone who came into town to harass him) threw garbage and “fake blood” on the man. Yep, you’re doing a great job here Fugly. Criticism and condemnation with no solution. Good work!!!
OK, this is the last post you get because, honestly, at this point you’re just annoying and not making sense. All of these points have been covered. I’m involved in rescue hands-on as are most people on this blog. Most of the extra horses shouldn’t have happened in the first place, hence the reason I tell people not to breed unless they’re breeding small numbers of show quality horses that sell for good money.
We all get your point, Wycked Cowgirl. You are Mendy McEwen, or her very good friend, and you hate me for outing her for sending a horse to the auction. Your point has been made. I let people have their say but if they don’t have anything else to contribute, they don’t get to come here just to disrupt the blog and attack me. You can do that on your own blog.
By the way, I don’t even believe your story is true. Shooting a horse in the head is a legal form of euthanasia in every state that I know of. If it’s not somewhere, I would be shocked. That tale is a classic made-up phony tale of someone who is afraid the mean animal rights people are coming to get them and steal their animals. Nonsense.
Well, according to her story the guy wasn’t brought up on animal abuse charges, which could be because — as you said — it’s a legal form of euthanasia. Also could be that all the trouble started because he let the horse starve for a while before he shot it — did you see the part where she said it was losing weight? This horse owner was no knight in shining armor! But I suspect you are probably right about it all being made up, because of the melodramatic ending of the story — he died from a broken heart because he was so persecuted. Come on — who believes that stuff?
Guess what Wyckedcowgirl… I am one of those mean animal rights people and I LOVE Fuglyhorseoftheday. I also make my living training horses. I also think that it is far more humane to shoot an animal in the head, killing instantly, than it is to ship it off to slaughter. Part of my crazy PETA animal rights belief system is that poor quality, future unwanted animals should not be produced in the first place, which is what Fuglyhorse is all about. There you have it.. the nutjob PETA member has chimed in with her radical thoughts.
I have to agree 100% . Here in Switzerland a bullet between the eyes is standard practice for a sick animal . No one bats an eye here. Its humaine, fast , and the kindist thing you can do for a sick animal. Wyckidcowgirl…your a moron !
QUALITY in homes, not qulaity of the horses. *headlawngnome*
this is exactly how I took the post to mean…..quality homes not horses. some ppl just want to stir the dust because they arent bright enough to to understand the message.
You are boring.
Here’s a hint: Paragraph breaks really help. So does organizing your argument with some kind of logic. At the moment you sound like you’re completely crackerpuppies. Ciao!
Wow WC, you are one big nutbag. I know Fugs doesn’t need votes to boot you off the island, but I’m voting anyway.
Estrogen dominance much? Take a few progesterones maybe?
I don’t know what he looked like before, but for the horse’s sake check into lamenes on the front end especially if you are thinking of jumping him. He lookes uneven and ouchy on the front right.
glad it wasn’t just me. It might be the arena, but I thought he seemed to be favoring as well.
I noticed the same thing… just as he’s coming towards the camera and about to turn right. See the head toss? Reminds me a lot of one of the H/Js at the barn I work at… he’s got early staged of navicular.
Yeah, his movement is further hampered by his rider, who is hanging on the reins. Get that crank noseband off, let him move freely, and he might be as cute as he seems. Right now he looks pretty unhappy at how he’s being ridden, and his stride is seriously stilted – not really collected.
He looks pretty cute, but someone is forcing him into a “frame,” which is right up there with “headset” in my book.
and… um…. $5500 RESCUE FEE??? Did he have colic surgery or something? Gah. That’s not “rescue,” that’s “rehab & sell,” which I have no problem with, just don’t call it a “Rescue Fee.” It’s a “Selling Price.”
On the east coast, it’s pretty common for better quality horses to adopt out at those fees. Remember, they’d be $20K if they weren’t at a rescue so you’re still getting a huge discount. It’s just not the difference between $5K and $1K that we see on the WEST coast. Very different world.
I’d still call it a “selling price.” He’s cute, but he’s baby green and … just not a $20K horse yet, even on the fabled East Coast.
Or a $5K horse.
I agree about the marketing – if you’re gonna claim he’s “A” circuit quality (I beg to differ), you’d better present him as such.
Uh… what? I’m sorry, but I live on the fabled East Coast, and a horse like him would NEVER sell for that amount. Adoption fees over here range from $500 – $1500, and that is for the same caliber/quality of horse as posted in the video. To me, the price Preston is listed at is more in line with a rehab/sell operation than a rescue/rehome one.
I’m reading these comments, but I’m also aware that numerous Angel Acres rescues are showing and winning and have their records as proof. So while you may not be impressed with this particular video, I feel pretty confident this horse could be resold in the traditional sense for much higher than the adoption fee being asked.
HA HA HA HA HA……fugly you are outed!!
A friend just sent me a pic of you on a buckskin at cedar hill’s training center.
This center uses LIVE cattle for roping.
Do you seriously want to tell me that it’s ok for cattle to have rope thrown around their heads and back legs to be pulled opposite directions and that it’s ok for you to put your horse through that kind of abuse ( the jerking of the lariat)????
You are a hypocrite!!!
Anyone who doesn’t believe its true visit:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000957686677&v=wall&story_fbid=121898044516304#!/photo.php?pid=3945745&id=176069282617
By the way, the horse you are riding is hip high, camped under in the front, your saddle appears a little too far back and YOU DON”T HAVE A HELMET ON!!!! You also have your weight on this poor horse’s neck. Do you not care about the stress you are putting on this poor horse.
Shame on you, FuglyCathy!! You freaking hypocrite!
Uh, before you act like you found something OMG! you might want to check out whether I have actually contradicted myself FIRST.
1. I have no problem with cow events. Never have stated that I do. I don’t, however, rope myself. I have gone to sorting once, it was fun, and I don’t think the cattle were in any way unfairly stressed by it.
2. Personally I think the horse is quite nice and he’s been placed surprisingly high in halter class considering he’s not a halter type. No, it’s not a professional picture but there’s nothing in that picture I’m ashamed of.
3. I’ve posted MANY times that I do not personally wear a helmet, except to jump, and that I think it is every ADULT RIDER’S CHOICE whether or not to wear one. HOWEVER, if you are a PARENT or an INSTRUCTOR, you should require under-18′s to wear them. That is my personal opinion and I have never once lied about it. Adults get to choose, children do not – parents/instructors should choose for them. You can go back three years on this blog and find the exact same personal opinion being stated many, many times.
And oh yes, my hugging my horse is SO GOING TO KILL HIM! OMG! That’s SO MUCH WEIGHT ON HIS NECK! POOR PONY! CALL ANIMAL CONTROL!
LOL, you are a hard-core idiot, but feel free to blather on.
Um, so are you supposed to rope DEAD cows?
LOL!
Truth is, I am quite sure I could not rope a cow if my life depended upon it. However, YES, I socialize with a lot of folks who rope cows – and I don’t have a problem with it. In particular, the training center being “outed” for OMG! ROPING! here has been having Ranch Roping clinics and days where the emphasis is on roping as applied to real-life ranch work, not for show. It’s about how to rope a cow so you can move it, doctor it, etc. without harm to the cow. Anyone who can’t figure out the difference between that and stomping a cow in the face must have the I.Q. of a cow patty.
I bet you could rope a cow if its life depended on it.
I don’t know about that…I once tried to rope a static target from the ground and…I can’t *imagine* roping a moving cow from a moving horse. It has to take a LONG time to learn to do that stuff right.
Yeah, someone tried to teach me to rope about 20 years ago and all I can say is that I know I do not have ANY talent for it. I can hit a polo ball, but I’m useless with a rope! Probably just rope MYSELF.
Oh yeah, way to “bust” Fugly. Show her hugging a shiny, well-fed, well-groomed horse. Oooh, you bad horse owner, you, Fugly!
Oh sure, little friend of Mendy McEwan (My horse’s name is Mindy- I’m ashamed at the resemblance!) So ummm, do you oppose working ranches? Because of course on a ranch to catch cows they call out “Here, little Buttercup!” Anyway Cathy, I’m behind you here, I’m not new to the blog (about a year, and I read everything in the archives) but I only just got an account.
Thanks, wyckedcowgirl, for the link to the very adorable picture of Fugly and the VLC. He looks fabulous!
I would just like to second this sentiment.
Hmm, I wonder if wyckedcowgirl realizes that she’s doing a great job of making herself look like a fool? Even things said that might be applicable are lost in the juvenile behavior.
I’m definitely not a fan of buckskins, but for someone that isn’t into either the creme gene or AQHA horses, he’s nice to look at. Just saying a horse has conformational faults doesn’t make it so. Hate to admit it, but he really has that whole sexy thing going for him. =)
omg you are such an idiot.
Directed at wyckedcowgirl, btw. OT, “wyckedcowgirl” is such a kewl name. I love misspelling things, it sounds so smaryt.
*sigh* I am feeling really anti-troll today.
Roping cows isn’t harmful to the cows. At my barn, we rope (and I mean “we” in the most general sense, I haven’t learned to rope yet) the cows and they don’t seem to care at all. They’re probably just happy that they’re not hamburgers. They have little horn guards on them to protect them from rope burns and they are very well cared for.
I’m not sure how you can tell if that horse is hip high, seeing as his withers are covered up. But that’s fairly common for QHs. And OMG you’re right, that hug is about to permanently damage that horse! Animal abuse! Animal abuse!
Come on you sound like a moron.
Do what now? Girlfriend, you are a freak!
That horse Cathy is hugging is practically asleep, he’s so stressed out.
Yeah, that is his usual state. He wakes up if he hears a peppermint wrapper.
How can you possibly tell if a horse is “hip high” if the rider is hugging him and covering his withers?
And one front leg is back, and the other is forward. That is not exactly the definition of “camped under.” Gold star for effort, though.
Congrats wyckedcowgirl…you win the grand prize – an “I’m with Stoooopiiiidd” shirt…with the arrow pointing up!
ps a relaxed horse not standing square does not = camped out, and if you think that roping a cow is cruel, I fully invite you to wander into a herd of beef cattle and put a fuzzy halter on them and lead them (just make sure to catch your skill on camera for us all to enjoy!)
HA HA HA And YOU thought they were using DEAD cattle!
Also, can you believe they sell DEAD chicken at KFC?
HAHAHAH “crackerpuppies” Watch out Cathy, this is one big, mean biatch, check out her facebook. She might wind up sitting on you for your evilness and squish you dead xD (Excuse the heavy people joke, just attacking her personally, not big people in general)
Oh, I was warned about these folks but if I didn’t talk about all the people I was warned about, the blog would be boring. Were you around for the gal in East Texas who just got outta prison and was going to kick my ass for daring to blog about her kid riding a yearling?
HAHA no, I must have missed that one. That is, I haven’t read all the comments to the older posts, just went through the actual post after I came across the blog haha
So what happened, did she track you don’t and get intimidated by your petite build? xD Sometimes it seems to me that these people are just lower forms of life in a human disguise.. Or maybe it’s the other way around. The few sane people you come across in your life are higher life forms in human disguise xD Of course I hope it is the other way around, really…
First off, I assumed as i read WCs comment that there was probably nothing wrong with the picture. I also recalled Cathy’s opinions about helmets off the top of my head, since I’d read them so many times. While I don’t care for rodeos, I understand the principal of roping – and how it would be used on a farm. I don’t appreciate seeing roping, bronc riders, bull riders, chuck wagons, etc., as I do think it’s pushing the limits of how to treat animals.
Secondly, when I read the part about “weight on the horses neck” I got this image of Cathy riding way up on the withers or something… I laughed out loud when I saw her hugging her horse. Honestly, don’t you think it’s pushing it a bit to condemn someone for hugging their horse? It’s not like there were photos of her riding around like that. The horse is standing still! Wow, that’s really scraping the bottom of the barrel there.
Third, I think the horse is nice looking. I don’t see any major faults with it. I’m not a professional by any means, but I’ve certainly seen a lot of ugly horses to compare it to! And when has Cathy said to kill all the fugly horses? She’s admitted to owning and loving her own fuglys… she just wants the over-breeding to stop, to only breed quality horses, to bring the market back around to where horses are again worth something. I don’t see how that’s so hard to understand. Well, I guess it would be hard to see, if you haven’t gone back and read through the archives.
WC, I think it’s time to move on. You obviously have a personal grudge, and I understand you feel you were wrongly accused. Personally, I think it’s time to get over it. If you feel you have a legal recourse, follow that. If you feel you want to start a blog and call Cathy out on everything, do that. But pulling this sort of crap, on Cathy’s own blog… well, it’s a bit silly. Lets see if you can find a readership as strong as Cathy’s. I’m sure there are a bunch of people who have been “outed” by her that would love to write all kinds of nasty comments on YOUR blog. There you go.
Oh, and one more thing, the fact that Cathy actually posts your comments – I find that awesome. I’m sure there are lots of people out there with blogs, that when faced with a constant irritant (such as yourself) would just delete those comments and be done with it.
[FHOTD in: Well, I did tell her she'd had her last say with this, because she isn't offering anything constructive. I don't mind debate and dispute but it needs to be about whatever we're talking about, and no, the subject of this blog is not me and my horses. Although again, I really don't have anything out there I'm ashamed about. If someone thinks they have found actual proof of my being a hypocrite or contradicting myself, I'm happy to discuss it. But no, I haven't done a blog about OMG NO HUGGING! LOL...]
Sorry, I quoted WC below me, just so I could read it as I typed the response… but forgot to delete it. *headdesk*
That was a great article- what smart thinking on the part of the author!
I’m not sure how I feel about outting/not outting te faux rescues however. My initial thought is that they should be outted, I mean what good are they really doing if they won’t even check references, and in the one case look at pictures emailed! It sounds like they are just throwing horses from the frying pan into the fire.
Tempts me to start doing something similar, but would hate to waste time of a truley good rescue.
I was kind of thinking the same thing, except that I’m guessing that for every horse that ends up going from the frying pan to the fire, there are at least 3 that ended up in good homes.
I volunteer here in France for not really a rescue but a website that does its best to match horses that are slaughter bound (the system is different here; no need to bring your horse to auction, the kill buyers come to you) to nice homes. We do our best to check things out and make sure the horses will really be well cared for, but it’s not always as easy as it seems, and sometimes mistakes are made. Last year I spent countless hours on the phone and researching the history of a 21 year old selle français broodmare who, poor dear, had been shipped to Spain to have babies there (she was supposedly going to a retirement facility… yeah, right, some retirement) and came back to France under the description: 16 year old Spanish mare (which was lucky, because initially she was headed to Italy to become saussage). The lady that adopted her didn’t want to keep her, but then it turned out that she just didn’t want to pay. People donated the fee for the mare, the lady kept her on her property… and then we heard some very fishy information about her. So the countless hours on the telephone were to make sure the mare’s paperwork ended up in the name of a very nice association, so that volunteers could go, with the police, to save this poor mare once again.
To make a long story short, this incident was scary, not fun, and really made us rethink certain aspects of what we do. But of the dozens of horses that we’ve placed, we mostly see updates of healthy, happy horses, and that definitely makes us want to keep doing our best, even if our best isn’t perfect.
West Virginia…. hmmm Crossed Sabers anyone? Horrible off-balance greedy woman runs that one.
Oh yeah. That SCREAMS Crossed Sabers.
I just checked them out. My jaw hit the floor when I saw the 15,000 dollar adoption fee on a 12 year old spotted saddle horse gelding. WHAT!?
And, there is nothing to stop “Jack The Animal Ripper” from purchasing a cute little innocent weanling ( or any other animal ) from any sale and doing whatever he wishes to with it either. No background checks of any sort. If you got the highest bid, you got the horse. People are also free to starve their horses, neglect, and abuse them and when they are tired of them, they can drop them off at the sale barn just as easily. So many people have no idea that there is a dark side to the horse industry that they can’t even begin to understand. From what goes on at the rescues, the track, to the stuff that goes on in the name of winning in the show ring. Oy! However, if we keep repeating the same stuff over and over, maybe we can educate the public one by one.
I got my mare 3 years ago from CBER, not knowing they had a horrible reputation. But they DID call: My employer, my vet, my trainer and at least 2 of my personal references.
I wouldn’t trade this mare for any other horse, I’ll be keeping her forever along with her 2 yr old filly (I didn’t know she was pregnant).
CBER has had some very good and hardworking volunteers. They checked my references too (but no one ever made me sign a contract).
They checked into mine also but like Fugs said I signed nothing and no one has ever checked on them in 3 1/2 years as far as I know either, not that I’m worried about it. The one (El Vira) will be gone sometime next week though but they can call and I will be more than happy to tell them where she is. Her and my stallions half sister PB will be getting sent to the trainers. I just got PB a couple of months ago, her options for her future weren’t looking so great and she looks way to much like my boy to let anything bad happen to her. So, now the proud owner of a 7 year old mare that’s not halter broke…woohoo!!! lol
Your boys cute Fugs! Absolutely a handsome boy.
I’m partial to him myself.
I’ll update his blog one of these days, have just been busy, but he is doing well and just won his first blue in western pleasure at the ABRA show.
So handsome! So happy looking, too.
He remind’s me of my coach’s pony that I part-board:
Not in colour (I can see past that) but in general head and neck shape.
aw, shucks, that’s the wrong picture
WOW! Mind if I pre-reserve a serve for in a few years when he has a show record
?
HAHA I just realized I’ll have to get frozen semen shipped. And then he’ll be an INTERNATIONAL stud with offspring in Australia hehe or Germany, if I decide to go back xD
He has a pony tail like a shih tzu! I don’t know what you call it (well, I AM a noob you know) but is it common for show horses to have their bangs in a ..a.. pony tail?
Yeah, that is what they do with the forelock when they band the mane. I think it’s kinda funny too but you know, that’s apparently the style now. I’m good with anything that helps keep his bushy forelock under control. The horse grows so much mane that I am convinced there is an Andalusian in the woodpile…or a pony!
I can’t even begin to tell you how many folks have called about the rescue TB but don’t show up because of the “conditions” I have on her! Then, the ones who have shown up to meet her all say they like her a lot, no problem on the conditions and……………nothing.
It’s real simple, site inspection (no barb wire and safe pastures) name of vet and farrier.
People lie and want you to bend the rules for them, people don’t believe I am going to drive to their place and actually look at where they are going to put the horse, people think I am not serious.
That is why she is still here after a year and a half. I would love to have her gone….but she ain’t going back to some place where the same thing can happen to her!
The good homes don’t object to the conditions and the site visit…look at SAFE, they’ve had a really good percentage of successful adoptions. People who are good homes don’t care if you come by once a year to visit. They are happy to see you. I did some site visits for SAFE and never had anyone be defensive or unfriendly even once. They didn’t have stuff to hide. They knew what they were signing on to and it wasn’t a problem because they were responsible horsepeople and were doing things right anyway – watched or not.
Now, details on the TB? Feel free to plug her here…I don’t mind a bit and someone here may like her!
Thanks Fugly for letting me put in a word on our rescue mare. Her name is Willing, here is the public link to her Facebook Photo Album;
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=180242&id=188829877207&l=1ae62ba49a
She is 15.3 hh, sound of body, great legs, was used as a broodmare for some time. Possibly only has a track training education. She leads, loads, trims, loves treats, loves to be groomed. Is current on worming and shots. She is somewhere between 12 and 15 years old. Very short coupled and long legged. Would make a cute jumper, moves nice!!
She is FREE, I only wanted to make sure she and her companion got healthy again, her companion was euthanized after 3 weeks, by the Vet in charge of the two.
I require a meet and greet, site visit, vet and farrier references with phone number and I will call them!
She sure is a beauty… Too bad your across the country from me, or she’d have a forever home here…
I was contacted by one of the forum members, maybe we can work this out and get Willing to a home where she can have her own person!! I am excited for her!!
That would be AWESOME! I’ll cross my fingers for her!
I do think some rescues are too strict on the requirements though.
I board my horse, and I would not meet the 1 horse per acre requirement that a lot of rescues have because there are about 60 horses on 10 acres at my barn. It’s set up very well, however, and I am outside a major city where space is at a premium. Each horse has a large pen/paddock with nice shelters and there are areas for owner provided turnout. Some of the paddocks are 1/4 acre (I realize that sounds horrific to those of you NOT in CA). I understand 1 horse per acre if you’re not feeding hay and they are supposed to live off the pasture (and if that IS the standard the rescues that are using it need to clarify that on their applications), but otherwise, it does not make a lot of sense to me. You could have hundreds of acres but keep the horses stalled the majority of the time. I don’t see why the acreage seems to be such an issue. Especially when you are boarding.
Well, obviously I’m spoiled by living in a part of the country where we have land, but we have 11.8 acres, and if we had 60 horses they would be piled up like cordwood. I could see keeping 20 on a temporary basis, but it would be crowded and they would have to alternate turnout. 10 is about the maximum I would want to keep, given that the house and barn take up some land, and six is much more comfortable. I have some difficulty believing that 60 horses on 10 acres is really working well.
It’s not just a matter of pasture. Horses cooped up together get stressed out, develop bad habits, and pick on each other.
It’s hard to describe, really. It’s set up like a horse “village” I guess. There are parallel gravel roads and the shelters are on the roads so there are two rows of pens between the roads. Most of the shelters have individual tack rooms attached. The smallest pens are probably 20′ x 150′ (better than a stall with a 12′ x 24′ “run”) and the largest are around 1/4 acre. This is dry lot obviously. Most horses are kept in individual pens so they are not picking on each other and are separated by no-climb and hot wire. I thought my gelding would be unhappy alone, but they buddy up anyways and they can all see each other, so they nap at the same time and play at the same time. And he used to spend most of meal time chasing the other horses off their food, so I think he is calmer now. The coolest thing is that the pens are all sloped (so the roads and shelters are the high spots) so there is NO mud! The shelters all have mats and they are fed in their shelters so no eating off the ground (it’s very sandy!). Even with all the pens/paddocks, there is a barn for lay-ups, a round pen, and three arenas! There’s an adjacent field that’s pretty large (bigger than the property I think) that can be used for riding. So it is a little crowded but all of the horses I have met are much calmer than some stalled horses I have met. I think it’s just being outside and able to see one another ALL the time, even if the space is a little small. And I don’t know where all the manure goes, but they dispose of it pretty regularly!
Turn out is the owners responsibility, but since it is so close to town I am able to go out and do something with him every single day, even if it is just hand walking around the property for a bit! My guy gets along well with a couple of other geldings and if I’m out there at the same time as their owners we will sometimes turn them out together. Most of the owners are out all the time, with only a few absentees. I’ve mentioned this before, but where I live my choices seem to be crap pasture/no care for $100 a month or stalled for upwards of $600 a month (I’ve seen as high as $1,200 a month for a STALL!). I spent a long time searching for a happy medium.
That’s an interesting setup and a useful compromise for a “horse town”. Horses need to see each other and they like seeing what’s going on, watching each other and the people going by. If everyone is calm and occupied, they will be fine. There are certainly worse places.
I hear ya. I’m in CA too and board my mare in a 1/2 acre paddoc (no stall, just a run in and several large trees for shelter) and couldn’t be happier- neither could she. It’s a lot more space than I would think the majority of (happy healthy) horses here have. She can get up to full speed and do all the horsey acrobatics she pleases. Her mind has never been sounder either. I thinks it couldn’t get much better for her, but is it good enough for most rescues? Nope.
I had him on a 1/4 acre at my old place, and the property was gorgeous, but the mud was OUT OF CONTROL so I had to move him. There were some other issues as well…
newhorsemommy,
I think there are some counties that are requiring the one horse per acre, but I have not heard it to be prevalent in rescue requirements.
I would be happy to see a rescued horse go to a facility where the owners have barn managers who supervise the care of the animals. I know it is now always the case, but it is better than seeing the horse get put out on a 10 acre pasture and only seen once in a blue moon. Horses that have been rescued usually are coming back from starvation or mistreatment and they need to be watched carefully!
Well the link that was posted to the supposed ‘horrible OMG’ picture doesn’t work – it goes to a facebook page of one of Mendy’s friends. W/e.
I’m sure if someone was following most of us around with a camera all day when working/riding there would be several opportunities to snap not so flattering shots of us.
I personally don’t think that outing the bad rescues is a horrible idea… but done in a way that allows the horses caught in the middle a way out.
I could not click on it either without getting the Facebook page, but I got it to work by copying it, including the next line, and then pasting it into the URL space on a new page. It really is a cute picture:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000957686677&v=wall&story_fbid=121898044516304#!/photo.php?pid=3945745&id=176069282617
Darn, it did the same thing to me! It didn’t copy the whole thing as a link. Oh well, just copy the whole thing, both lines and paste it and it will work. Thanks, Mendy, er, wyked…whatever.
That pic is just sooo cute! Love the VCL! Of course, my horse is a fjord, so I have a soft spot for buckskins.
Ok, my buckskin doesn´t look as elegant as the VCL!
But I just can´t believe you´ll hug your poor poor horse…
Ohh, the suffering…
wcowgirl:
If you don´t have any arguments, you should better keep your mouth shut…
He may not be “elegant” but he’s adorable!
What a CUTIE! That is, by the way, the first time I’ve seen a Fjord without the roached mane. Very cute and shaggy.
Thank you for all your nice comments!
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He really is a cutie! I just adore him… I´ve had him for 15 years now, he´s 24. He was pretty untrained when I got him and dind´t respect my personal space at all. I was young but fortunately clever enough to get a trainer for both of us. And w/o natural horsemanship, just with common sense and being strict.
We have done tons of stuff like showing, trails, dressage, jumping etc.
He is still ridden by two girls and I usually just spoil him rotten.
He used to have a cropped mane, but his mane is so thick that you have to cut it almost every week. And I´m too lazy!
I think it looks great!
Believe me, I´ll pester you again with more pictures of my cutie in the future.
Greetings from Germany (where the sun is shining today for a change!)
Ohh, what an adorable cutie. I’m a softy for buckskins and for hairy horses as well. Double whammy.
Your horse is the kind of horse I dream about having. So adorable!
Wow!! I love, love, love the mane!! Your horse is cute. But I too hadn’t seen one with a fully mane. I love the look. Why do they roach it??? And the colors are so visible like this. Again, wow. Adorable!
I believe it’s just tradition. It might be intended to show off the bicolor mane or it might be for ease of care. I’m planning on visiting a Fjord breeder next month and plan on asking her.
A lot of people ask me if I dye his mane…
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Usually, the mane is roached to emphasize the neck of the fjord. My friend´s horse looks great with a roached mane and stupid with a long one. Depends on the horse…
You can also cut it like this, it is called the “dragon look”:
Here you can see his mane better
I like the punk rock mane. I am amazed he doesn’t trample the frenchie!
Nope, he was told to stand still and he´s just to my dog. Although the dog looks like he wants to flee…
Hehe, “punk rock mane” is a very fitting name!
Ehm, I meant to write “he´s used to my dog”.
I did it just to take the picture, the frenchie very much prefers to go out on a hack with us.
He´s not afraid of my fjord but he didn´t trust my young shetland… Go figure.
I was thinking about it and I to don’t ever recall seeing one without it’s mane roached. Definitely like the NON-roached look better!
Kind of OT:
Has anyone heard of the rescue Hope for Horses in Washington? Are they a good rescue? Thanks.
Not my favorite, but they’re not a scam. Just not one where I’d go, wow, you should totally give them money. If you are in WA and want to donate/adopt, I’d say Save a Forgotten Equine or Second Chance Ranch. The first is more all breed, the second is TB’s.
I’ve been to the Hope for Horses place, there was a mare who was skinny. When I asked about her, I was told that they had her for 2yrs(I think) I got the classic “she is just old” response. All of the other horses looked in decent shape. They seemed legitimate up until that point.
I had contacted them about horses in trouble, the rescue lady said she had a sheriff set up to go to the barn.
I had contacted SAFE and HFH, HFH was the only one that responded. This has been nagging at me ever since.
I am surprised if SAFE did not respond but you know, sometimes an e-mail goes to junk or something. I certainly miss a lot due to the volume of e-mail I get.
However, I do know from personal experience that you would never hear SAFE tell you something was skinny because it was old.
I should add that I set up a lesson and went back to the barn with the horses in trouble and got some undercover footage. I handed it over to HFH and haven’t heard from them. Now I am unsure of what to do. Hand the evidence to a different rescue? HFH says they have a sheriff looking into the situation. Would getting another rescue involved jeopardize the investigation?
If you aren’t getting a response from law enforcement, my answer is always: Go to the media. King 5 has been VERY good about taking this stuff seriously.
Ok, thanks for all the help!
Btw, I mean “VLC” not “VCL”… :-/
Fugs, tell me about the ABRA shows. Does my half-Arab (looks like anAnglo) grullo gelding have a prayer of being judged fairly, or are they biased towards the stock breeds? All the photos I’ve found of their shows have been full of QH’s and stock-types.
Good question – maybe someone else can give you some insight. I have only been to one show (recently, anyway) and it was indeed full of stock types. Maybe that is not the case all over the country, though.
It doesn’t surprise me, given that the dun modifier is so prevalent in the stock breeds. The girl I emailed in the local Buckskin club found it hard to believe I had a grullo half-Arab.
That shouldn’t be rare but you’re right, you don’t see it much…I keep hearing that there is actually a real demand brewing for quality WP Quarabs, so you’d think we’d be seeing a lot of palominos, duns and buckskins among those.
My mare was origionally a western pleasure mare before she was re-trained for Hunters, and she’s a Quarab. I must say that back then (10 years ago) they weren’t that common, however, I see them alot as lower-level and young children’s Hunter mounts.
Wyckedcowgirl:
The people in the white coats actually let you access the Internet? Please don’t tell me they let you out in public as well…
Loved that article! Your gelding is super cute too Fugs
Having adopted both horses and dogs, I’d have to say that equine rescues could learn a thing or two from the dog rescues…in my experience anyway. While the rescue I adopted my mare from was pretty good, they were no where near as thorough as the rescue I adopted my pitbull from (before people start freaking out about vicious dogs…my pitbull is a giant lap-dog, she’s far more trustworthy around children and other animals than our yellow lab and I am a responsible pitbull owner). IMO owning horses is a much greater commitment than having a dog, considering the potential lifespan of both, as well as feed/housing/vet etc, when they are being offered for adoption the process should reflect the level of commitment.
Thanks. He’s actually still got all of his original equipment, and seems to be on track to earning the right to keep it.
Wow, that wyckedcowgirl is a laugh a minute isn’t she? I’m a bit tired, so I just sort of scanned, but I think no-one has pointed out that “quality not quantity†wasn’t meant to mean “they should concentrate on saving only quality horses”, it was meant to mean “they should make sure they send the rescued horses to GOOD HOMES rather than shunting them to the first person to turn up with a trailer, regardless of whether that person is in any way capable of looking after the horse” What’s the point in saying “Woo! 15 horses rehomed this week!” if 5 of them go straight to slaughter, and the other 10 go to miserable existences that are no better than the situation they were “rescued” from in the first place. I’d have more respect for a rescue that said “we’re humanely putting old, sick, lame, untrainable horse down because there are so, so many horses that need saving from a fate worse than that, and we’d like to give THEM a chance to find a good home”
I’d try to comment further on her first post, but it doesn’t make any sense, so I don’t know what to say!
Yes, that was exactly my point with that remark. I’d much rather see someone rescue 30 a year responsibly than 300 a year and have NO clue where they are. I mean, it’s just a waste of money. Why get the off the truck if they just wind up on a different one?
PHEW that makes me feel MUCH better about us declining people due to a) being too far away for us to check the property or visit the horse b) expecting 3 references from potential adopters and copies of Drivers Lic/passport etc to verify their suitability and identity and c) keeping a healthy horse for over 12 months until the right home came up!
We get whinged at/complained about for being too strict, not allowing horses to be sold ever even if the adopter trains them and makes them worth more and not adopting sight unseen!
And I QUOTE from our FB page:
LOVE HER! pity I live so far away from you guys…and am guessing you don’t do adoptions sight unseen?!?!?!
Can see my daughter ( who is just about to lose her beloved horse to cancer) riding this gem in the future!
Hi Karen, no we don’t Adopt sight unseen as our priority is to ensure a really good match and therefore a long and happy relationship between horse and human.
Pity with some 30 plus years of horse experience and with her being so young…I could see a future for us LOL Hoping you find her a great home!! Sad it isn’t on 60 fabulous acres in the middle of NSW ( with me and my horses). Keep up the great work!
We get this kind of thing a lot and people saying we’re too strict wanting to sight ID and wanting to visit properties etc. and its stupid we won’t adopt out to a great home further away without seeing the place/meeting the people in person etc.
TUFF says I (and now feels better for saying it) because there are so many dodgy people out there who try to Adopt horses from us… we are not taking chances!
I’ve been thinking about that very thing for a while. It would be cool if some of the more reputable rescues could network and provide site checks for one another. Maybe a standard form and requirements could be developed. Then, if I wanted to adopt a horse from Ohio, but I’m in CA, a rescue here could do the site check and send the results to the rescue in Ohio. I know some rescues have out of state volunteers, but I do wish there was more networking.
Kind of like what was brought up the other day, where NorCal sends some horses to a rescue in the Bay Area where they have better luck adopting out a certain breed.
ok, I have no idea if this is going to show up (hopes you can make it work) but a friend once sent me this picture and it made me laugh so hard I cried, so based on todays crazy poster du jour, I thought I would share it
On a more serious on topic kind of note. I was sitting here thinking how nice it would be if rescues who wanted to adopt across state lines, etc, could hook up with vvolunteers in that state to do the home checks and follow ups for them. Like a rescue co op or something? where a CA rescue has a NY adopter interested, and has a partner Rescue in Ny that would do the home check for them. But then again I guess the NY rescue might just try and talk the adopter into taking one of their horses. So maybe site checkers should be stand alone? Not sure if there would be alot of demand, but if their was you could almost have an entire organization or network of people to do just that. It would be a great thing for people like me who would love to volunteer for rescues but don’t have enough time to train for them or spend a ton of time at their facility, but a couple hours a month checking out adopters in my area I could totally do.
Again, no idea what kind of demand there would be, but it is a neat idea. You would have to work out how to make sure the site checkers knew what they were doing and were honest etc.
Well that’s great that she “busted” the horse rescue….hope that info gets to anyone wanting to adopt. But I think that would be the problem, not many legit people are wanting to adopt now are there? Really, a newer trend that I approve of is training your young studs to AI, testing him for freezing and collecting. Then if he freezes well, then gelding at around 5 years old. (If he doesn’t freeze well, then might be better to geld anyways) That really limits what mares you are breeding, obviously it’s not just because you can, requires a vet or knowledgeable person during the process. Another bonus is the “stud” is trained to phantom and not mares so good hope to pasture with mares in the future after gelding. Down side is more expensive than byb. Then if you are running around riding without a helmet and end up on lifesupport then your trained gelding instead of stallion has a much better chance of a good life. I respect your opinions but really, helmets are important. I wear mine because I want to be around for my kids. And gelding doesn’t have to mean the end of bloodlines, it means responsible choices when supply is overstocked and demand is low.
Freezing is a good thing but I’ve typically seen it used because the stallion was a pain in the butt to have around as a stallion. Mine has not been allowed to misbehave, and he doesn’t, so it’s kind of a non-issue to let him be for now and see if he earns his breeding rights. He is on the right track but still has a long way to go, so we’ll see.
As for the helmet issue, I think adults have free choice. I’m no more likely to get a head injury than you are to have a stroke from eating hamburgers. However, when you choose to have children, you take on the responsibility for someone who is not old enough to make their own decisions. So it’s your job to make the best possible decisions for them in every way – putting a helmet ontheir heads, feeding them healthy foods, etc. I would never dispute that a helmet IS the safer way to go. Those of you who wear one every ride are definitely lowering your risk of a head injury.
With all due respect, you’re much more likely to have a head injury riding than to have a stroke from eating hamburgers. Riding horseback is one of the most dangerous sports in the world. I do believe in the right of adults to kill themselves in creative ways, but please don’t downplay the danger. People respect your opinions, and you need to be truthful when you speak in a public forum.
OK, post the stats that support your theory. You’ll want to be able to show # of riders riding without a helmet –> percentage that suffer a head injury as compared to # of people eating meat –> percentage that suffer a stroke.
The stats are a little trickier than that, since you’d have to know what percentage of the strokes were related to the meat consumption versus other lifestyle choices and factors, and no two scientists on the planet agree on that number right now!
I’m not finding numbers on head injuries either. However, a little poking around reveals that horseback riding is significantly more dangerous than motorcycle riding – there is a motorcycle injury roughly every 7,000 hours of riding a motorcycle, and a horseback riding injury roughly every 350 hours of riding a horse. Since I’ve never met a motorcycle owner who didn’t have gravel scars, that makes horseback riding alarmingly dangerous. Again, I support your right to do it if you want to – but not wearing a helmet isn’t safe. And since the subject has come up, I can’t help wondering who would take care of your rescue critters if you were in the hospital in a coma.
Given that all of my horses are boarded, where I am matters very little.
They are all with people who are willing to keep them if something happens to me (and I do have a will).
Anyway, my point is you can argue this stuff all day. People LIKE to pick “helmet use” out and act like it’s different from every other risky behavior that might land you in the hospital and require others to take care of your animals, but it’s not. Let’s say I indulge in one risky behavior but abstain from 10 other risky behaviors that many other people indulge in. Am I still somehow irresponsible? I think adults get to decide for themselves, and none of us have the right to point fingers at other ADULTS for the risks they choose to PERSONALLY take (when you put your carelessness onto someone else, like your kid – that’s different). I mean, if you get to point fingers at me for not wearing a helmet, do I get to point fingers at the person who chooses to eat fast food 3x a day and is 100 lbs. overweight, thus greatly increasing the risk they will have health problems? Of course not. You have to draw the line somewhere and realize everybody has some personal freedom to do unhealthy/risky things that MAY result in their becoming a “burden to society” one day. The alternative is a society where we are all hyper-controlled, legally forced to wear helmets, never drink or smoke, exercise daily and eat low-fat food.
I do not think that the dispute is that helmets provide additional protection. It just seems “odd” to me that you call people out (and not just children) for not wearing them when you do not wear one yourself except for jumping.
When have I called out an adult for not wearing one? Please cite an example, if you think an example exists.
(Other than for jumping, when I DO wear one myself – therefore it’s consistent)
Proper training keeps you much safer than wearing a helmet. I ride many different horses all day every day sans helmet and my scariest head injury so far has been from body clipping. Of course, there is the chance that a horse will fall over on you or have an aneurism and drop dead right under you, but there is also a chance that I may get eaten by a shark on summer vacation. I still go in the water. So if we are all going to be paranoid about what could possibly happen, what are you personally doing to protect yourself from a broken neck or back should something bad happen?? What about the junior Arab rider who recently passed away when her horse flipped over on her and the saddle horn killed her? How did her helmet help her? There is nothing wrong with a grown adult making the decision not to wear a helmet while mounted.
I stopped wearing a helmet at 15 when I was riding in my round pen. I simply lost my balance and fell. I was close to the edge, but my head wouldn’t have hit. Because of the helmet being a little thicker it hit the round pen, cracked all over, and then the crack that was at the back sliced in to my neck. Luckily it wasn’t a bad cut, but I said that from that point on I was going to take my chances with not wearing a helmet.
Um… because the chances of the same freak accident being exactly repeated are higher than the chances of the next time you fall, your head being just a centimeter closer to the fence?
At this point i’d rather take my chances on my head hitting something… it has yet to happen and since i am now an adult i can choose for myself if i will wear a helmet…
all I can say about that article is WOW! People wonder why the rescues that I recommend up here insist on a home evaluation in person…well….there ya go!
Check this one out – for the 1% of you who steadfastly refuse to believe nice horses go to kill, this OTTB mare, Aquaduck, was pulled out of the kill pen last WEEK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH3t69QfVdE&feature=player_embedded
And yes she is available for adoption, in Washington state.
OK, don’t chuck me in the pile with WC up there… but I do have a question…
I clicked the link, watched the video (beautiful horse BTW), but you said she’d been pulled off the truck last WEEK…
I clicked the “katieatsecondchance” to go to her channel (just to see what else she had posted), but when looking at her info on YouTube it says she hasn’t logged in in a month (“Last Sign In:1 month ago”)… So I’m a bit confused… the horse was rescued last week but the video …. AAAH CRAP… I just checked when the video was uploaded and it says June 2nd… So she obviously uploaded it via email or something. Sorry…
BUT, this is also a good example of how things can get misconstrued… not checking things over before mouthing off… (and that’s a warning to me, and everyone else… especially WC…
LOL! It’s okay. And to clarify, the horse had a place to go thanks to a wonderful h/j trainer named Shannon Hendrickson who was also instrumental in bailing out several Enumclaw horses 2 years ago (including Lucy, the black TB mare with the socks, who I still have). So if you are looking for training/lessons in the Tacoma area, and want someone rescue friendly and kind, go to Shannon! http://signaturewestfarms.com/
Totally off-topic:
Horse sexual abuser arrested near another horse, but won’t be facing “sex charges.” Instead, he’s being charged with animal cruelty for tying his first (known) victim to a tree with a coarse rope, causing her rope burns.
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_15210991?source=most_viewed
Photo of alleged horse rapist with article. Damn dude looks like a pervert!
Horse molesters: come to Felton! Ack!!!!
OMG that guy’s been around for a while. He needs to be locked UP!!!!!
That’s terrible.. but on another note, he looks like Dennis Quaid with red hair and after a bad weekend.
That is seriously being described as an “A-quality” horse??!
What A circuit?!
He has a completely shut-down, mincy trot and is being ridden backwards in all the gaits.
At the first “wow” he is barely past a tense jig and it only gets worse by the time she starts with the “fantastic” and the “oh my”. It’s being ridden so backwards it looks LAME.
In a post that is about RESPONSIBLY PLACING horses, maybe rescuers shouldn’t be so quick to fling around the “A-quality” description when they have no idea what real gaits look like, much less how to ride them, demonstrate them, or develop them.
There is a lot more to “A-quality” than shuffling constipatedly around a 20 meter circle jammed up in the bridle.
I found that looney tune quite entertaining …. Come on Wycky cowgirl or whatever you call yourself….post again , I need another laugh . I abuse my horses too, lots of tight double arm hugs, kisses on the lips too OMG…They cant have their carrot until mom gives them a kiss first. cruel..? yes, very . I have to say.. everything Kathy believes in is stated clearly, and never changes. I know exactly where she stands on issues, and know that there will be no back and fourth “on the fence” ..I think this is why she attracts so many readers (fans) like our horses we also crave consistancy. But I also need a good laugh , so thank you for providing me with a morning of entertainment.
Hey, is there a way to have a freeze band that clearly states that a horse should never be in slaughter, and somehow a link to the origional owner? If there was a NO SLAUGHTER symbol I would definatly have my horses branded and pay a fee to keep my name in the computer data as a person to call if its ever at auction. I would get that brand right on the rear end where everyone could see it. I bet I am not the only one too that would brand a no slaughter mark on my hooligans. How do we make this happen?
The reporter did a good job checking the story/sources by doing a little investigative work. Good for her. And good for “outing” a rescue that has its wires crossed. Communication is everything. Heh heh.
I adopted two Rottweilers (a male and a female) from Rott Rescue of Los Angeles about 8 years ago. The kennel that handled puppies was in Redlands, about 50 miles from here. (I had cats at the time and figured it would be easier to integrate a puppy into the family — and I was correct, thank goodness).
The rescue application stated an in-person inspection would be made prior to and at any time after placement. It also asked about my yard, fencing, where the dog would stay — my answer was, “wherever I am,” — what other animals I had, etc.
I had no problem “passing the test,” and to my knowledge no one ever came up to check things out. I did provide veterinary information, as well. I don’t know if anyone from RRLA ever called them, either.
Both my Rotts went to the PetsMart puppy classes, and one of the instructors complimented me on how well socialized and well behaved the pups were, especially the male. I had broken a toe and was having problems with things like stairs, so the assistant instructor took Benny for the “stair” lesson. Benny kept his eyes on me but went very willingly with the young man.
Pansy was BORN to do sit, stay, and down. She was the star of the class, too ;o)
My point is, sometimes an actual physical “look see” is not feasible, but references and Google maps (if current ;o) can provide a good picture of the facilities.
I subscribe to the New Vocations Racehorse Adoption newsletter and there have been a couple of adoptees that rang my bell. One, especially — a gelded son of Lemon Drop Kid, and I think that stallion is drop-dead gorgeous. The gelding was beautifully bodied, too — big stout sucker. My kind of horse.
NV has two locations (Ohio) but they don’t empoly or recommend any horse shippers that come to the left coast.
Thank goodness ;o) As a friend said the other day, “I don’t want to start visiting too many of these rescue places.” She has two horses in full training at a dressage barn, so she’s got expenses. I wrote on one of the earlier posts that having two horses means four times the WORK.
I just saw on COTH in the missing horse section that there are 17 missing horses in SD.
Link: http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259693
Here is a link to a herd of Gypsy Vanner’s seized due to neglect. A couple purhcased them to fund their retirement but ended up losing everything.
http://www.theunion.com/article/20100604/NEWS/100609862/1001&parentprofile=1053
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
Horses are not a good money making opportunity or investment opportunity!
The average person would have a MUCH BETTER chance of making money with pretty much ANY MLM advertised on late night TV than with horses!
“asked for your income, property details, vet information and horse experience” and “photos of where the horse would be kept and photos of any other horses I may have.”
Hey, that sounds like CBER!!