Guess Who?
Apr 14 2010
Your hint is that he was on this blog when he was skinny! Let’s see who can ID him first.
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Comet?
I thought Comet was a youngster. One of the tags for this story is “senior horses.” I’m clueless as to WHO this is, but it’s a cutie, nonetheless.
It looks like Ruling Flame from the October auction. Is it him?
You and Xanthia got it, but you had an edge since you helped rescue him. It is indeed Ruling Flame from last October’s Enumclaw auction. Fat and happy thanks to Second Chance Ranch and his awesome foster mom, Shannon.
He is ready to adopt but we need a riding eval. There is an indoor arena where he is fostered. If you are an experienced english rider in the Olympia, WA area and want to meet this guy and help us find out how well trained he is, shoot me an email at resqtb@yahoo.com.
Yay! I’m so glad he rehabbed well! Once you evaluate his training, all you have left to do is FIND HIS LITTLE GIRL!!
I don’t have a guess, but whoever it is looks great. Kudos to the person(s) responsible for taking great care of this lucky horse!
lol hurcules… its last i cant spell.
No idea, but he is very cute.
No clue, but he looks great now!
Totally OT, but I’ve got proof there ARE still good people out there to free lease yor horse, you just have to look hard! My boy had been on free lease for 3 years with a wonderful family, and they love youtube so I got to watch all of his new escapades online between visits. Yesterday they called, because their financial situation has changed, and they can’t afford to keep everybody. So they called to give me as much notice as they could, and BEFORE anybody missed a meal. I’m bummed that he’s not going to be able to stay with them, but thrilled that we had such a good situation. There’s always that fear that no matter how good things seem they could run away with him in the middle of the night or something! Thanks to FHOTD I did a lot of checking up and watched for warning signs before he ever went out on lease, and it payed off big time!
Wow, that’s great that it worked out so well for you, too bad it had to end. I would love to find someone to lease one or two of my horses that would love a 4-H kid to pack around. How did you find them, did you advertise or ask around?
From the time that I started taking riding lessons I had always wanted to part board or lease one of the lesson horses, once a week at the barn was not enough horsey time for me! I was never able to due to the cost. About 3 years ago a friend of the family decided to let me come over and ride one of her horses. He was rusty since he wasn’t used that often, but I loved him to pieces and he caught on quickly. At the end of the summer I brought him to my barn to free-lease. The three years I spent with him were by far the best of my life! He was a great little jumper, and loved hacking outside on the trails, especially in the winter. We competed at our first short-course event together, placing 3rd in dressage and second overall, and even though it was just a little schooling show we both felt like champs.
He taught me a lot, and not just about riding. While we leased him I was solely responsible for his care, paying for farrier bills, dental bills, vet bills, tack repairs, etc. I really learned the value of a dollar, and that I would happily spend all of mine on him to ensure he had the best possible care. I had to stop leasing him this year when I started university, but words cannot describe how much I miss him. I still visit him at his old home and give him carrots and hugs whenever I can.
So, to anyone out there who has free leased a horse to someone like me, thank you!
Forgot to mention, that’s him there in my picture, at our first event!
Dunno – just, what with this guy and “Mattie” in the ad and others, the name of this blog is getting to be false advertising!
Whoever he is, he looks VERY happy to not be skinny anymore!!! And CUTE!
OT, but I just had to because I cracked up when I saw this. I’ve been reading this blog for years, but never seen a stallion who guaranteed a “live full contract.” Originally, I read it as full contact, and I was like: if he’s breeding her, I sure hope there’s full contact, hahaha.
http://yakima.craigslist.org/grd/1688579283.html
He’d sure make a super cute gelding….
Ack! Did you see his pic on allbreedpedigree.com? At least in the craigslist ad he looks like he has better care now but not so sure about his conformation. You’re right, he’d make a cute gelding.
Why arent there any pictures of his face? Is it severely deformed or something, LOL. I just love it when people put what horses in their studs bloodlines have achieved and say nothing about what their stud has done. Made my checkbook jump up and down in my purse and beg me to start writing in it
He sure would be a really cute little tanker gelding.
I am guessing, from looking at the pics on allbreedpedigree that he looks really nice from behind and at the angle they shot the pics, and when they took the side shot it shows how poorly put together he really is.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hawk+cool+hand
It says in allbreedpedigree his HERDA staus is N/N
I meant HYPP, not HERDA. DUH!
Funny you put this up here! I know that gal! haha. Never seen the horse though.
Well, in the craigslist ads he’s a cute color that I’m highly partial too, but beyond that….no mention of his HERDA status either.
hercules?
Whoever he is, I hope his old owner gets to see what he looks like now. Amazing what food, worming, hoof trims can do for a horse. Are to argue why your horse is skinny when he isn’t when some else owns him!
This guy?
Ruling Flame?
Hmmm. A sorrel with a star. That’s a toughie to ID. Whoever he is, he is a lucky horse! Someone did an excellent job, he looks fantastic!
Looks like a stallion. Can’t remember who… that reining or cutting stallion that was found starved in his stall along with a bunch of other hungry horses on the property. Big QH breeder in the NW…
not comet. but i bet comet will look like that soon!! who is it?
while visiting through archvies trying to figure out who this is, I came across the July 23 2008 hate mail posting. if you search the email address given you can see who she is on facebook! hehe. I love snooping!
Yeah for Ruling Flame! He looks really good. Great job Shannon!
If no one takes up the offer to test ride him, I’d drive all the way to Olympia to do it. There is something in his eye that told me he’s a good boy. Let me know if the ride in needed. I would have worked with him more when I had him but the rescue group told me “not to bother since he is too old”. He’s only 21 – he’s probably got another 10 good years left in him! Can’t wait to see how he does under saddle.
I’m with you – they are never too old, they are only sound or not and to my knowledge he’s totally sound though I’ll double check with Shannon. But he was sound in the kill pen when he was jogging around with Exclusive Report so I suspect he’s just fine!
I didn’t know he was only 21… If keeping weight on a horse that age is hard, the mother-in-law must be doing something wrong. When Miss Ruby looks at grass she gains 10 pounds. She gets a grazing muzzle in the summer when she’s out or she looks like she’s ready to have twins. At 20, she’s still young enough to be fun to ride, she’s well seasoned and dare I say spook proof, and she loves to trail ride. She used to run barrels until 2 years ago. She’d still run them if someone was so inclined to take her to shows.
Can we see a before pic? I tried to find it, but couldn’t?
I’m looking for it – TBsRock may have some although he already looked better at her house. He looked very rough at the sale. Like he hadn’t had a drink in a while.
Yes, there are tons of photos of Ruling Flame on my other computer. I’ll pull them off and try to post them this afternoon. He was thin (not super thin though), had really neglected feet, and had a cut on one of his legs that needed to be cleanup up but didn’t seem to be serious.
You could retitle this entry: Look – You CAN put weight on a skinny TB, even during the winter!
Does Shannon post on here? Maybe she could let everyone know what she fed him and how she was able to increase his weight this winter.
I’ll invite her over if she doesn’t post here already. But yes, it is a classic example.
There’s a bigger story, too – remember those 2 horses I looked at for SAFE, Pie and Isabella? They were on this same property. Shannon is the renter who had the courage to report her landlord for neglect. Now she is still there with another, better landlord and is fostering for SCR.
Here’s that story: http://schwung.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=adopted&action=display&thread=4541&page=1
Pie was in his 30s and had leukemia, so he only lived another year or so (but did gain weight!). Isabella is doing great.
How did Pie do? I couldn’t find any info for him on SAFE.
He had leukemia. He DID gain back a BUNCH of weight but he passed away about a year later. He is probably in the Rainbow Bridge part of their forum.
Found the Pie thread. This was the coolest old horse! He lived VERY well after his rescue and was personality plus!
http://schwung.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=inmemory&action=display&thread=4205&page=1
Yes I’d be interested to find out what kind of a feeding/care program Shannon had him on as well. I bought a 2 yr old stud colt that was thin and really wormy in November. He was really well bred (reining) and I seen some potential so I bought him. I had him checked out by my vet right away, he was enemic (sp?) and heavily burdened by worms and needed some work on his teeth. I wanted to castrate him right away but needed a clean fecal before I could do that…I finally got that end of January and had him castrated then…and although he’s made some gains he’s still too thin. He is growing up (2 inches since I got him)…but I think he should have gained more weight by now. I feed him approx 5lbs of a Purina Product called Integri-T (the old Fat N fibre) per day, plus 3 cups of Rice Bran and a 4 cups of Competitive Edge Extruded feed, and about 1 bale of grass hay per day. He eats all his hay and he’s turned out all day, in at night. Anyway maybe I’m not patient enough, but seems to be he should be coming along faster than this??? Shannon, any recommendations?
Well, part of the problem is that he finally has enough nutrition to GROW. He is using most of what you are giving him to try and catch up to what his genetics say he should be. You could probably give him a little alfalfa, forage, or about a cup of black oil sunflower seeds without causing problems, but I would also be wary of overfeeding. You do not want a fat 2 yr old, it can lead to future joint problems. (I’m not talking really skinny, but you should be able to make out the last few ribs when he is in his summer coat). If his coat is still unthrifty or he has a wormy looking belly I would give him something for tapeworms. They don’t always show up in the fecal samples and they can be endemic in some areas. Also, have you had your vet check his teeth and had his manure checked for sand? Good luck on the rehab.
Should have had check teeth AGAIN, their mouths can change quickly at this age as well as retain a cap which will make chewing difficult/not as effective.
Random–so I don’t live in the area but I will be over there (Shelton area) this weekend. I would love to be your test pilot if you don’t find someone else.
I will e-mail you the particulars and my cell number.
Awesome, thank you!
You probably already have many emails in your box from people wanting to ride this beauty, but I’m adding one too.
Second Chance doesn’t evaluate their horses before adopting them? They are going to let some stranger do the test ride? Yikes…sorry…that just doesn’t sound too safe to me. I think if someone is going to call themself a rescue, they should find their own test riders and get some kind of background and references on them first, so that they can honestly say how the horse rides. People can talk a lot of BS and they are on your horse yaking it around saying they can ride. Just my thoughts.
For heaven’s sake, every rescue is always looking for volunteers. I’m merely asking for a volunteer and you are assuming they would not be checked out, or that somehow they would be unsupervised with the horse. I can’t ride them all myself, nor can Katie.
I think the point of the post was to say that he needs the riding evaluation before he is adopted out. There is nothing wrong with networking and looking for someone in the area that is willing to work with him.
With that said, I do feel that any rescue that takes in horses with the purpose of rehoming them should only do so only if they have the resources to care for and assess EVERY horse. I have rescues, and I work with every single one of them while holding down a full time job. If I had more horses than I had the means to care for I would be doing them a disservice.
Thanks TBs Rock. That was all I was trying to say.
Katie knows her horses inside and out before she adopts them out. She may have 20+ dark bays at her barn and she can point out each individual horse from afar when they are out to pasture. She can tell you every exact detail about their past, racing history, injuries, etc. She knows everything her horses can and cannot do. Katie also spends an enormous amount of time matching up her horses with adopters. She won’t adopt out a horse unless she knows for sure it is the perfect match.
I would agree with that. I can show up, with or without notice, and every horse on that place looks great. There are not that many rescues I can say that about. She puts in tremendous effort. You will never find 2 rescuers who agree on everything, but I always know that Katie puts in the effort and her horses are always well cared for, so she gets two thumbs up from me.
I think the point is they are trying to find a variety of test riders with references, who have different disciplines, abilities and riding styles, to ride the horse under their supervision so they can evaluate what kind of home/rider would be best suited for their horse.
I disagree. Ruling Flame has been in foster care for months and has not been evaluated yet. They seem to be looking for a person who rides English to come out and ride him so they can tell potential adopters how broke he is.
I offered to assess him when he was at my place. Katie told me not to since he is “too old”. She also told me not to use any Natural Horsemanship because it ruins thoroughbreds. I use natural horsemanship so I didn’t work with him, at her request. I hope he is trained and finds a good home. He is a really nice horse.
Look, you and Katie have had a disagreement and your stories don’t match and I honestly do not know who is being honest – nor do I want to get in the middle of it. You both take good care of horses and that’s what I care about with a person.
Every rescue needs volunteers and I reserve the right to use my own blog to find them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing so. I am not asking someone to get on a greenie or train for free. This is a broke horse in his 20s and I just want to know if he’s a beginner horse or not.
Like I said before, I’d be happy to drive all the way to Olympia and ride Ruling Flame if no one else wants to do it. I’ve always wanted what is best fo this horse, and that is my only motive. I have not posted anything negative here about Katie, nor have I posted my “opinions”.
There is nothing wrong with networking to find people to work with or care for the horses.
You’ve done a great job getting horses like Abbey and Exclusive Report the care and training they need. Any updates on a new home for “Hope” yet?
Unfortunately, so far one inquiry on Hope and they wanted her for a broodmare. She absolutely cannot be bred, nearly died the last time. She is staying at her trainer’s through the end of the month and I’m hoping someone will want to meet her (while we still have an indoor arena to show her!)
Couldn’t find any before pictures on the blog-anyone have any? I never get sick of marvelling in amazement about what good care can do for a skinny old horse.
OT for today’s topic, should be under yesterday’s:
http://www.humanesociety.org/news/news/2010/03/humane_approach_pays_off_041310.html
A great thing this young Lady is doing for the TWH, and she got a Humane Society award for it. However – it also states she rode the Horse for HOURS as a 2 year old!!! Made my head explode, since hwn is it ok to ride a 2 year old for hours. Geeeez, her getting an award and being publicised, certainly will make folks think it’s just fine and dandy to do so.
Isn’t the TWH a breed where they do ride them excessively as practically foals? There is a YouTube video of a 2-year-old Championship class where they are practically walking on their hind legs, their front legs rise up so far and their rear feet extend so far under them…And of course the riders are all full-size adults.
Anyway, not to say that this person is into that kind of thing, but riding babies a lot may be the norm where she is. The way the article is phrased, though, it could just be non-horseperson descriptive writing. Might take it with a grain of salt, as I do “she trained him without using a saddle, crop or a bit in his mouth.”
I am sure she will be a fine breed ambassador, though. A barefoot Walker sets a great example.
Yeah TWH’s are often ridden very young and it always jumps out to me because they look SO DARN GOOFY at that young age. Looks like you are riding a noodle. Feels like it too from what I hear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuqN9n4RF4Y
My m-i-l rides her TWH with bell boots on the front because she reaches so far with her back end. She’s barefoot beyond that precautionary measure. She’s estimated around 8. She’s been here a year, sat in a stall for two years prior where she was bought from an auction. For her training and lack of fear towards anything, I’m assuming she was started quite young but not with harsh methods. A friends walking horse shakes uncontrolably if any kind of container is around while touching her feet and legs.
Hate to do this, but gahh!
Two older horses starving in a pasture. Concerned person calls humane society. Horses dissapear. Snow melts, revealing dead bodies of horses who belong to mother-in-law of township trustee. Trustee buries the horses. Claims they didn’t suffer, horses only live 20-25 years and since they were 30-40 its no big deal. Thanks the public for their concern. Everyone is happy. AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!
http://starbeacon.com/local/x912869337/Dead-horses-found-in-Richmond-Township-buried
Here is another update for you:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/tier-true-innocents-equine-rescue/4-14-10-sugar-bear-update/385369499940
Original blog: http://fuglyblog.com/?p=1650
I’m so glad to hear this mare is doing better!!!!!
OT for today’s blog post: I came across a thought-provoking, helpful online article by a noted Pacific Northwest dog trainer. On her website, writedog dot com, trainer Cheryl Smith writes in the “Articles” section of her website about LEARNING TRAINING FROM TELEVISION.
While the article is geared toward dogs and dog training, the information about analyzing any “TV Training” is really excellent and seems to me would apply well to looking at horse trainers on TV.
I bet Fugly would agree if she has a chance to read this article: substitute “horse” for “dog” and you would have a brief and powerful set of tools for evaluating horse trainers on TV (none of whom I have seen so far that are frankly worth the powder to blast ‘em from here to perdition, which is where some will most likely end up for what they have done to horses unfortunate enough to have crossed their paths).
Hope people take the time to read the on-line article – it is really interesting and provides some excellent means with which to decide if what any of the TV horse trainers are pushing is of any worth.
Hey look! A HYPP N/H “Non-symptomatic” colt to add to your breeding program on Dreamhorse.com
Oh how I love stupid people. What would we do for entertainment without them?
http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1494517&share_this=Y
Oh, I know who that is. She sold a DSLD mare to a buyer across the country without disclosing it, too.
Once I got over the nausea induced by the Photoshop’d pictures, I read that he is 16.1 hands. Wow…that’s amazing for a 13 month old colt.
I also noticed that most of her horses have upright pasterns and miniature hooves.
Aaah ha ha. And her website; eagle ridge farm “quarters n colors” (specializing in dunn or “gold” colored QHs).
I can’t stand the look of the “foundation” type. Much prefer the “appendix” type.
http://www.eagleridgefarm.net
totally OT but I don’t know how to get this to you otherwise. I saw a petition to strip the vets who starved the horses in Canada at http://www.brenderupforcanada.com/ and thought you could show this to the blog readers…those vets should have their licenses taken away if they haven’t already been!
Thanks.
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=16127
Horse slaughter for human consumption bill in Missouri.
It looks like Florida is the only state mentioned that is doing something to actually protect horses.
Most of my photos are gone, but here is what Ruling Flame looked like at the auction.
And about a week later
Why Kids should always use Helmets!
Today I went out with my dad, niece and daughter. Both kids young- 4 and 3. After working my horse and saddling her, we decided to let the kids have a bit of a pony ride. So they got their helmets on and my niece went up first. I told my dad to walk next to the horse and have his hand on my niece the whole time. She enjoyed the ride and then got off. So then my daughter’s turn was up. First thing on was the helmet, and again, I had my dad walk next to the horse and hold on to my daughter. I was leading the mare. She tripped in the sand of the round pen and went down to one knee. This tipped my daughter off and she got a face full of sand. The mare stood rock still while I picked up my daughter and made sure she was okay. The mare was at a slow walk and just missed a step or something, but the moral of the story is, the helmet and the sand made for a soft landing (that and a small mare). But even taking precautions with two adults, and helmets and saddles, accidents can still happen.
Luckily my girl wasn’t hurt, and we had her sit in the saddle for a few seconds afterwards so she would know it was okay. The mare literally tried to hide her head and kept nudging my arm for reassurance. She is very sensitive and LOVES my daughter. My dad wasn’t able to keep his grasp on her because of the direction of the fall. Anyway- just goes to show…
Very good example of a fall that did not have a single thing to do with misbehavior! I am glad she was fine and not too scared.
Unfortunately, not every mother is as smart as you.
I heard on the radio about a woman in Houston who was riding with her daughter in a rodeo arena…horse spooked, mom and daughter fell off….Horse stepped on daughter, daughter did not survive, mom is in the hospital.
Don’t know if the kid was wearing a helmet but I doubt it.
The woman in Houston was riding a STALLION through the parking lot. The stallion was known to be spooky and she had her 4 year old daughter on the horse with her, no helmet. The little girl was trampled to death when they were both hrown from the horse. This accident was preventable. Parents, do not put children on stallions and make them wear helmets.
You’d think that last sentence would be obvious but apparently it is not.
Thank you so much for posting this update picture! I remember him from when we first ID’d him by tattoo, and I’ve been wondering about him ever since.
Friends of Ruling Flame~
Thanks for all of the interest in Flame. I wish I would have seen this discussion earlier.
He’s doing really well.
A few of you asked about his diet. He’s a pretty easy keeper so all it took was pasture, grass hay, senior grain~and love. Lots and lots of face rubs, ear rubs, and cheek rubs.
He is definitely ready to be evaluated under saddle, but I’ll ask my landlords how they feel about using the arena and see what Katie’s take on it is.
Flame is ready for a forever home.
Like I mentioned, Flame is an easy keeper. He has great manners, he’s not pushy, and he’s a huge cuddler. They say he’s in his 20′s, but I don’t believe it. He looks great~ he doesn’t act or look like an older horse at all.
He recently got his teeth floated, feet trimmed and he is utd on vaccinations/worming.
I’ve totally fallen for this guy. He loves to be with people. He cracks me up everyday. He stops what he’s doing to come and say hi every-time.
If anybody has any questions about Flame, let me know.
And please, pass on his story and his need for a forever home to your horsey friends.
Concerning riding Flame~ Katie is ok with someone doing a test ride on Flame, but she wants to be there.
So, a couple of you showed interest in doing this test ride~ please contact Katie or me.
I’m eager to see what he knows. He’s very easy to handle.