An update on the Morgan story – and on Naysa!

UPDATE: 3/29 – Just got quite a bit more information on the situation out there.

“There was no misunderstanding. The SPCA had received complaints from numerous people about these horses for years. The SPCA had been planning this seizure for a while. They had set where they would take the horses to, had already hired caretakers for the horses and other people to help and had trailers ready to mobilize way ahead of time. This was very planned out because of the size of the seizure.

Of the 73 horses that were taken, 16 of them were stallions. The horses that were in stalls were standing on ramps of manure. Someone had picked the stalls but just thrown it to the back of the stalls. At the wall, the manure was near 4 ft in some stalls. While the owner might have had quite a bit of land, only about 10 acres or so were actually pasture. I don’t see how you can keep 73 horse on 10 acres of pasture. The horses feet were so long that they were tripping on them trying to get into the trailers. Many people have been saying that people don’t understand that you keep Morgans feet longer, but a horse should not trip on their own feet like that. The horses are absolutely covered in manure, it’s not mud. They have large balls of manure tangled in their fur, manes and tails. Unlike mud that, when it dries, it just flakes off, these balls of manure are so tangled and matted that the people grooming are only able to do a little bit at a time because they are all just so covered. Some of the horses were easier to work with, but many of them seemed to have little to no handling. A few of the horses have not even been able to be touched yet. In addition to all of this, there was no feed and only about 5 bales of hay on the property when the SPCA showed up. They were chewing wood off from the walls because they were so hungry and most of the horses were at least 100 lbs underweight or more. The horses look nothing like the pictures on the website and it’s not because they have their winter coats. There was also no water for the horses. When they started the seizure, they tried to water horses first and had to fill buckets from the lady’s basement. The horses were sucking down water faster than they could fill the buckets. To say that this was a misunderstanding and that these horses were actually well cared for is a joke and people need to know what the real conditions were like.

When the news says that the owner “cooperated” with the SPCA, that is a very flimsy statement. She stood around in her new Ariat boots talking to all the people trying to load her horses while her little daughter stood there crying. She put up no fight about the horses being taken but now, she is saying she took down all the license plate numbers of all the trailers that showed up and she is planning on suing all of them individually. She was the daughter of the owners of the Curtis Screw Company and had some sort of trust fund that recently ran out or she was cut off. She has never worked in her life except to breed horses. She had staff at one time helping to take care of the horses but when her money “ran out” she couldn’t afford to pay her staff any more. It was one of her staff members who finally was the nail in the coffin. As I said before, the SPCA had received lots of complaints but no one was willing to sign an affidavit. It was finally one of her former employees who turned her in and was willing to sign the affidavit about what the conditions were like that allowed the SPCA to get the warrant. I believe that charges have now been filed and she is going to be arraigned sometime within the next week or so.”

If you can, please help the SPCA by going here: SPCA of Erie County.



Turns out it is not just cleanliness issues and many are significantly underweight, too.

Update on Beth Lynn Hoskins Story

Read the comments – they’re pretty interesting too. Apparently Beth had a lot of time to play on Facebook when she should have been out in the barn taking care of her actual horses.
To which I just have to say:
demotivational posters
It actually brings up a good issue – who else do you know whose Internet addiction is interfering with their ability to care for their animals? Most of us love our ‘net but our animal care still comes first – others can’t draw that line.

Now it is time for some excellent news. The timing is perfect – while we were over at the old blog, one of our old trolls came back out to accuse me of running some kind of army of crazy mob that sends angry e-mails.  As those of you with reading comprehension already know, while I encourage calls and e-mails in some cases, I always caution you to be polite and succinct.  So it is now my GREAT pleasure to announce that your calls and e-mails seem to have made a big difference – guess what happens on Tuesday?
Yep.  Tony Meyers is FINALLY BEING TRIED FOR HIS CRIME! WOO HOO!
Last Naysa update here if you aren’t familiar with Tony Meyers and why he needs to have every book in the criminal code thrown at him.
If you’re anywhere around St. Martinville, Louisiana, you can of course attend the trial yourself.  Here’s how this works:  If you have self control and can sit down, shut up and not even make faces, you can attend the trial.  If you know you lack that much self-control when faced with a knuckle-dragging bottom-feeder who dragged a horse nearly to death, then you can – completely legally – stand in front of the courthouse and picket for justice for Naysa and draw media attention.  I know it’s a Tuesday and most of you are working, so another thing you can do is call or draft some polite, succint e-mails to the media and let THEM know this guy is finally going to trial.  The more media attention, the better!
WBRZ is the local Baton Rouge ABC Affiliate:  (225-336-2344)
WAFB is the local Baton Rouge CBS Affiliate:  225-383-9999 or e-mail  news@wafb.com
Keep it short and informative.  If you need a script, here you go:  Hi, I’m calling to see if you know about and will be covering a local trial that has caught national attention.  Three years ago, a man named Tony Meyers commenced a violent attack upon a horse at a horse auction.  The horse nearly died after he dragged her from his trailer with a barbed wire-wrapped halter.  She survived but it has taken almost three years for his case to come to trial and it’s going to be heard starting on Tuesday at the St. Martinsville Court.  The case number is 07-00009229.  Jerry Finch of Habitat for Horses will be there testifying so you can talk to him about the horse’s rehab and her life today.
…Thanks guys. I really can’t think of a case I have ever felt so strongly about as this one.  Even Three Strikes…while there was massive suffering, to me that’s still not as bad as this kind of vicious, overt, shameless, incredibly violent direct attack on a helpless animal.  This man is SCARY.  If he hasn’t already done this to a human, you can bet he will.  He needs to be behind bars.


56 comments to “An update on the Morgan story – and on Naysa!”

  1. horsesandponies4ever says:

    The psyciatric world is debating if they should make this a reconized mental disorder as this interfers with peoples ability to finction. Their thinking about putting it in the DSM-5. They should because like you said fugs, some people know what comes first and can get off, and other people get so sucked up in the net they forget how to even be function as human beings. I hope this does make it in the DSM, both the WOW (Worlds of Warcraft) factor, and now apparently farmvill (never played either). So this way it will be easier for people to get help. Because they do, they just simply don’t know they need help or know they need help but can’t or don’t know how to ask.

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    • fhotd says:

      I am going to theorize here that if you have severe addictive tendencies to begin with, you are more likely to get “sucked in” past a healthy point with something like WoW or Farmville or whatever. I say “severe” because I think almost ALL of us have SOME addictive tendencies. Personally, I don’t have any issue with things like alcohol but I could never have, say, five bags of Tostitos and salsa in the house and not eat them in a weekend. I avoid this by not having whole bags of anything like that in the house :) Sometimes you merely have to keep the thing you are too tempted by out of reach, or limit it, which is why they have things like timers you can set to only allow a set amount of time online if you know that, for example, your teen is not getting their other work done. I don’t think THAT is a mental disorder. I think if you’re sitting online from morning til night, not getting any exercise, don’t have a job, not taking showers, THEN you have a mental disorder. But there’s also the interesting constructive-behavior exception, which I can relate to because I can get this way for short periods of time – the guy who sits in his parents’ basement all summer, never come out, orders in pizza but the result is something that makes him a millionaire. So this is a hard thing to define.

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      • PandorasBox says:

        That used to be me, sadly. A WoW-er. My best effort was 42 hours straight (after a breakup, meant I didn’t have to cry for 42 hours).
        Yup- I have mental disorders too. WoW was my way of escaping from the ‘real world’ so I wouldn’t get hurt (as much).
        And I’m ashamed to admit that yes, I would quite often lose track of time and my horse would get fed late etc. He always DID get fed though- he was plenty happy and healthy (he was my other sanity lifeline), but… World of Warcraft ruled me for a couple of years.
        Thakfully I overcame that addiction and whilst I still occasionally play, my horses (2 now) are much more important to me. In fact, I don’t play at the moment because a now-ex-boyfriend got addicted and it started to ruin our relationship, so I tried to set an example.
        My horses > the internet. Mind you, pretty much the only two things that my life seems to revolve around as I am unable to work currently, but at least I have my priorities and some shred of sanity. <3 Horses.

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        • fhotd says:

          I think most people self-medicate in some way after a breakup. If it’s not WoW, it’s food, if it’s not food, it’s alcohol…I certainly don’t see that as any sign of mental instability – that’s normal.

          I will say that from what I have heard about WoW and its addictive qualities, I’d never be tempted to try it for that reason alone. It’s like cigarettes – as a teen, I saw how many adults were desperately trying to quit, so I figured I would just never try one and therefore never have to worry about that. Worked. :)

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          • Talia says:

            I was always biased against WoW. Reason? My bf at the time would spend HOURS playing wow… WHILE I was there, sitting on his bed… I walked out on him when I got fed up waiting. Another one I’m biased against is Eve online… Cause yet again… bf at the time played that the entire time the sun was up. Another deal breaker.

            I have a few games that I play, like Requiem(rated mature) and Allods(wow ripoff that is FREE). But, I never play until the end of the day, and I am in bed(<3 laptops). Or, I'll play when I have absolutely nothing else to do and I have some free time. So my playing time never really exceeds 3-6 hours, the latter being a rarity.

            Another game that's a big time sucker is SecondLife. It's not really a "game" per say, but more of an intricate chat and socialization program. I spent a LOT of time on that when I broke up with my bf I was with for 4 years. I could immerse myself in a life that's not my own, and have a bunch of friends and forget about my RL worries.

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            • fhotd says:

              Second Life is an interesting phenomenon. The appeal is simple – don’t like your real life? Log on and have a different one – complete with a different house, a different spouse and of course both of those are better than the ones you can get in the real world. No one is Second Life is “married” to an avatar that looks like Jack Black or Rosie O’Donnell, THAT’S for sure. And I’m fairly sure no one is working at a dead end job they hate. I think the popularity of games like these is proof of how many people are dissatisfied with their life and want something better – but they feel powerless to change their real world so they log on and be whoever they want to be.

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          • PandorasBox says:

            Yup, it’s terrible addictive. Most people playing can’t see that they’re addicted either (ie my now ex boyfriend). I also smoke, something I swore I’d never do coz I hated the smell, the coughing, etc. Dad always used to smoke inside, so when I started it wasn’t long before I ended up with chronic bronchitis. Addictive personality, thats me! Joy.

            But back on topic yes, it’s pretty scary to think about all the neglect happening because of the internet, and how FEW cases of it are actually seen. I’ve actually played Wow and been in guilds with people who are constantly late to their own children’s plays and sporting events because they wanted to do ‘one more dungeon run’ or something else ridiculous.

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        • walkonaire says:

          My husband spent about three years stuck in front of the Entropia Project, and then WOW. It was NOT easy. He did continue to work and do things that *must* be done, but it was clear that his online world was far more important to him than the real one. His temper became horrendous — it was scary.

          I always thought it interesting that the developers named it the Project Entropia, and named the virtual world Calypso. In mythology, Calypso was a sea nymph who held Odysseus prisoner for seven years. As for ‘Entropia’: the concept of entropy comes from physics. Energy is what holds the particles of the universe together in an organized fashion; entropy represents the tendency for things to randomize, homogenize, disorganize, and basically lose all shape, substance, temperature, and form. That is how I came to see that simulation; It held my husband hostage while the household could have been represented by a marquee reading “Entropy is Winning” Project Entropia, btw, was a game played with a virtual economy backed up by real currency. My husband sold all his virtual ‘stuff’ and was able to buy a very nice, very large flatscreen TV.. but it could have turned out just the opposite.

          I don’t play the simulation games on FB.. I have too many critters to take care of and a job that I love!

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      • TBDancer says:

        The key difference to what happened in the Hoskins case and what you’re talking about, Fugs, is this: ” … the guy sits in HIS PARENTS’ BASEMENT … ” and comes out a millionaire. Someone else is paying the bills, feeding the critters, fixing the meals and just generally taking care of business while Junior fiddles in the basement. THAT is the difference.

        I too can get caught up in the computer when I’m working on my writing. I also get caught up in good books, something engrossing on television, etc. I just sent my tax papers off to the preparer last week. I’ve had my paperwork sitting on the desk, unopened, since before the end of January. The lady I work with had her REFUND in the mail by the end of the first week in February. It’s EASY to put things off, for me “easier” than others.

        However, when it comes to the critters, THEY remind me when it’s time for a meal or when they need to go out, and I have learned it’s better to listen to them. (I don’t leave the access doors open for them at night because I live out in the country and I feel more secure with the doggy door room closed off). And I DO pay my bills on time (most of the time ;o), so we’re good to go there.

        Sometimes “moderation in all things” isn’t do-able (like if you have a major repair to make and it’s “gotta be fixed, like, NOW”), but there have to be limits to these activities that may prove to be detrimental to one’s personal responsibilities. Whether it’s a timer or a post-it note on the computer screen, RESPONSIBLE people do what works for them — so life doesn’t get a whole lot more complicated and no one suffers. Guaranteed, the mother of the child that drowned in the dirty pool was taught a lesson she will NEVER forget. And people facing prosecution for animal neglect will learn that same kind of lesson if the courts sentence them to the maximum as allowed by law.

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    • platedlizard says:

      In South Korea internet addiction is a recognized disease. There have been deaths in the internet cafes that are so popular over there when people have played for 70 hours or more, and recently a baby died of neglect because her parents were too busy gaming (they were caring for a baby IN A GAME, and neglected their real baby!). It’s not quite as big a problem over here, but it is becoming a problem and I think it’s getting worse. Gaming is self-rewarding, as much or more so then drugs IMO.

      Frontline covered it recently.

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  2. Lune Du Cheval says:

    My horses are right out my back sliding glass door. If they are in the back yard they press their little faces to the window for treats. I can’t stay online until I go out and work wih them and put them away…

    Fugs, thought I lost you yesterday, glad my link works today. :) Love ya!

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  3. DeannaJ says:

    That picture is sad but true for some people. I have had lots of people ask me to help them with their Farmville stuff on FB, but I always tell them you may be able to do that, but I have a real farm to take care of, I don’t have time for that nonsense! Don’t get me wrong, if people want to play around with Farmville, that’s fine, but don’t let your “real” animals suffer because of it!

    http://horsefilleddays.blogspot.com/

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    • fhotd says:

      Sure. I admit I love Bejeweled but it’s something I play while I’m on hold on the phone. Bejeweled prevents me from becoming too aggravated as I get transferred back and forth between people who are equally clueless. :)

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      • Talia says:

        Just to be evil…… lol

        http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html

        Very addictive, but it’s also a quickie game that takes probably 5-10 min per game. Sometimes only 2 min lol

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      • walkonaire says:

        Bejeweled (and my own personal favorite “pathwords”) aren’t designed to encourage you to create a whole new reality for yourself. That is what the ‘draw’ is with these addictive simulaton games. For many of the addicted, teh game is far more interesting than real life. THose with a low sense of self-worth can lead exciting lives in these game situations — and they can be heros!

        Heck! They can have horses with flaming hooves, and the ability to fly.. and THOSE horses never need feeding, nor do their ‘masters’ (yep. They are ‘masters’ in the games) ever have to shovel virtual manure.

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  4. UrbanAmish says:

    This is a true but horrible story. I am a cop and I went on a child drowning call. The little blonde blue eyed two year old girl was found dead in the bottom of a half drained swampy pool. How did it happen? Mommie dearest spent upwards to twenty hours an unemployed day online. Normally the neighbors would watch the child at their house with their kids but they had a doctors appointment that day so the baby stayed home. She wanted Momzilla to play but she was BUSY on a chat room. She told the baby to go play with her dolls. We found the doll floating in the pool and a little pile of clothes near the ladder. It was too murky to see her body. The sad thing was the neighbors were more devistated than Momzilla. I hate douches like that. I am not even going to get into what I see done to animals…

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    • fhotd says:

      That is awful. It is awful in general and it is awful that YOU had to see that.

      And again, whyyyy do people have children AND animals they are not going to care for? You can have neither! It is easy to avoid BOTH if you don’t want any responsibilities other than yourself.

      *sigh*

      Please tell me Mom went to prison for that.

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      • Charm says:

        I think that might be the key, actually. Children and animals are NOT easy to avoid. You have to make a conscious effort to not have children, and you have to make a conscious effort to take the stray cat/dog/potbellied pig/rooster (yea, we live near a flea market) to the pound or otherwise rehome them. Dealing with the issue requires self control and consistent focus.

        Something many Net addicts don’t have, you see?

        As for knowing someone who became addicted to Net to the detriment of their animals and child, that was me. Mind you, I learned– I got over it, and now I’m ready to leave the online world within an hour of coming. But for a while, I literally FLEW through choretime so I could get back to the computer. I fixed popcorn for dinner a few times, because others were hungry and I didn’t want to be away from the roleplay room too long. It’s an ugly addiction, because the Net is big, so boredom with one area can lead to exploration of a new area, and we all know there are LOTS of different areas to the Net.

        I’m pretty highly educated, and for a while I still got sucked in. I’m much better now (In fact I have to log off soon to go work at the new house/barn I bought!), but from a first hand account, I can tell you there was a point where I looked at my toddler son and went, “OMG, you stupid idiot. You are MISSING watching him grow up!” It’s a very effective wake up call. :)

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    • paintedponygrrl says:

      That’s so horrible. My mom worked in CPS, she couldn’t take it for long.

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  5. DeannaJ says:

    Man, if I were closer, I would love to be at Tony’s trial to support Naysa! Although it would be very hard to sit there and not want to get up and literally kill him….(so I guess I actually wouldn’t be a good candidate for sitting in on the trial would I), guess I would just have to picket outside, LOL. Hopefully many of you locals will go and show them that people do care and that they take this kind of cruelty and abuse very seriously. Hope the judge throws the book at him, he makes me sick…..but no matter what they do to him, it could never be enough punishment for what he did to Naysa. :(

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    • Silverhope says:

      I’m glad Tony Meyers is finally going on trial. I was beginning to think he would keep appealing until everyone forgot about him. Ha, he underestimated us horse-loving-justice-seeking actual human beings.

      I have been sending emails all this time and I’m sure lots of others have, too, but I will be surprised if he gets much of a sentence if found guilty.

      Gotta go, I have a couple more emails to send. And yes, I’m always polite but assertive, factual and not overly dramatic. :) Well, the polite part is true. :)

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  6. YoungRider says:

    I certainly agree with you about this case; it’s such a cut and dry case of cruelty that if he gets off I’ll have kittens. Also, anyone e-mailing might want to mention the gunshot wound to her head.

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  7. aficat says:

    I play the Farmville. If you’re spending more then, maybe an hour if you’re making many crops a day, a hour that can be done almost entirely after sundown and can be timed to do so, ur doin it wrong. I “play” several games on FB, and never spend more than an hour *total* in updates and wasting time, and very rarely that. Heck, I just updated 12 games in that time, but I fed and cleaned stalls this morning. One of my friends is twice my levels on FB, and she works 6 horses a day and shows on weekends. The internet will not collapse if you take a week off, and many games have a pause button or hibernation mode so everything won’t die in your absence if you’re worried about it. If you have a web enabled cell phone you could be doing most browser games and websites while you are doing your horse chores and walking your dogs! Or updating your own website with your horse’s current pictures and show stats.

    Now, blogs and comment threads…

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  8. Silverhorse says:

    Its kinda a little off subject but yesterday my friend and I went to our local horse auction. We always start at the kill pens to watch the loose horse auction while the tack is still being auctioned off and then move to the driving/saddle horse ring. A small mule (13 or 14 hands) went through and was bought for $75 by a kill buyer (commissions for a loose horse is $30/head). My friend and I finished looking at some horses and seen a woman walk into a kill pen and lead the mule out. She then turned around and placed the horse into the normal horse auction (commissions for a pony is $35/head). The little mule sold to a private buyer for $150. So she made a $40 profit and the mule got a second chance. Thought it was pretty neat.

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  9. HeatherH says:

    On weekends, I’m usually quite near East Aurora (where the Beth Lynn Hoskins horses are). Does anyone know if volunteers are needed? I’m not in a position to donate money, but would be happy to assist those poor horses in any other way needed.

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  10. CassiaDawn says:

    Completely OT, but there’s a bunch of ads (all by the same person) on my local kijiji is just screaming “WTF?”

    Ad #1: “snowy is one of our favoirt pony she is such a sweetie and is 2 years old in the spring she is sooo sweet she loves people loves to be played with there is nothing wrong with her we just didnt think when we bought her that we have a paint stud and it would be a mess if he bred her she is a pony cross dont crawl fences 250″

    Ad #2: “we have a broke pony mare that is 6 years old she is such a sweetie loves people easy to catch trim and is bred too boot to a paint stud she hasnt been ridding in since last year but my friend sat on her back and she didnt do nothing at all reason why we selling is that we did we think and we have a paint stallion and we dont want to breed her we bought her because she is super cute asking she doesnt crawl fences bit or kick i am guessing she is 10 to a 11hhs 250

    shadow is a 6 year old mini cross mare she is halter broke loves people she is a very pretty mare she is easy to catch trim ect she is bred to a paint mini stud reason why we are selling her is because we didnt think when we bought her and we have a paint stallion and we dont want him to breed her when she foals she is not a fence crawler has no bad habits she would be good for young kids to learn all there basic ground work stuff like brushing leading ect i am gussing she is around 48inchs asking 200

    nothing wrong with them both sound and healthy when we bought them we thought it would work out truns out we dont have the room to keep them away from our stud and we dont want them to get bred by him so we have to let them go!”

    Ad #3: “Snip is a 3 year old QH mare she is a ton of fun to be around love ppl she was slighty started last year but was prego with a opps baby she is about 14hhs she is a very pretty horse and is easy to catch 500 the buckskin colt was her opps baby he is sold ”

    Ad #4: “due to the lack of time we are selling 2 bred QH mares missy is a ten year old palomino mare she is very very pretty throws amazing foals she is NOT papperd i bought her from a abusive onwer asking 1500 with the foal or 1000 for just her she isnt lame but has a bad hoof *** for more info call me i am bad at explaing things on the computer*** she trailers ties baths good she is a good honest mother does a great job on her babies we have had her for 2 yeears she has givin us a buckskin filly and a one hell of a good looking bay colt this year..

    Mouse is a 9 year old QH mare and is NOT PAPERD! she was broke as a 2 year old and due to the lack of time was used as a brood mare all i can say about this girl is the throws good looking foals the 09 foal has a nice big hit and but nice straight legs very gental ( same as missys foals) asking 2000 with the foal or 1500 with out you wont go wrong on these girls

    the stallion is a sorrel with a big white blaze he has banaza -hotfoot-inpresive and some peppy on his pappers”

    And the pièce de résistance, Ad# 5: “instead of selling your horses at a action i am looking to by cheap mares age size colour dont matter must be cheap like 100 to 200″

    Wait, what?? Okay, you have multiple pony mares that you you’re selling because apparently you can’t keep them separated from your stallion (hmm, maybe GELD?), and several horses you’re selling because you don’t have time for them… and yet, you’re looking to buy cheap mares of any type?? *headdesk*

    http://saskatoon.kijiji.ca/c-PostersOtherAds-W0QQUserIdZ41867944

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  11. peg4x4 says:

    You did hear about the couple who let their baby starve to death…They would be in an internet cafe for 12 hours,go home feed the baby,Who was a premature special needs child,then back to the cafe.. What were they doing on line all that time,you ask??? RAISING A CARTOON BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • fhotd says:

      I missed that story.

      Of course they were. See, I wish these people would just stick to the virtual versions! Farmville all day, you can have 16,324 horses there, can you just NOT have them IRL too, PLEASE?

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    • JennfromNM says:

      If I remember correctly, it was a couple in Korea, and they were unemployed at the time as well. Apparently this is a problem that runs rampant over there, the unemployment and spending inordinate amoutns of time in the cybercafes. Baby might have got fed more often if mommy and daddy had internet at home, or at least they could have heard her cries. Porr little one. Several years ago there was another couple from Korea whose baby died while they were are a cybercafe playing WoW. I have my baby’s bassinet, swing and bouncer all within reach of my computer, he sleeps better that way, and I can check on him at any time. I suppose it alos helps that I will actually try to find out what he wants when he starts making noises (he makes an “eh, eh” sound when he first decides he’d like something to eat, and gives you a certain look), so that I can take care of it, lol.

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    • WorkInProgress says:

      I thought of the same news story when I read this blog entry.

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/07/report-internet-addict-parents-starved-baby/

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  12. Dogs 'n Horses says:

    That damn Farmville and all the rest those crazy farm/cafe/war games really frost my petunias.

    I’m forever sending messages like “Fanny Mae. Holy shit. Thank you for sending me 16 virtual sheep that you can’t afford to feed. As it happens, I have enough things going on with my actual job and my actual pets to keep me occupied in my actual world and I’d prefer not to get involved in your virtual stress. Send me any more and I’ll contact the make-believe SPCA and have them send over a virtual inspector. KNOCK IT OFF! P.S. Are we still on for margarita night Friday?”. They think I’m a little intolerant of FB applications and they’re right.

    Someone in a position to ask questions needs to ensure this psycho gets pounded (Legally) There just has to be some kind of history on this bastard, but I wouldn’t be surprized if everyone is too terrified to speak up. Crap! If he gets a fine and probation what kind of a message will THAT send?! Geez, I really, really hope the prosecutor did some digging on this guy.

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    • fhotd says:

      I hope so too. I think the same way – there’s no WAY he hasn’t done something violent before. You don’t just in your 40s decide to nearly torture a horse to death WITH A CROWD WATCHING. If that behavior isn’t normal for you, that would never happen. That’s his normal behavior.

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  13. Golden Girl says:

    As I sit here and reply to this thread I am thinking I have to hurry and get outside and bring in the horses because it is going to rain. Heaven forbid they get their backs wet and roll in the mud!!! 8-O I actually let the mini horses stay out 24/7 as they have a run-in shed to crowd into during bad weather.

    I hope the judge not only ‘throws the book’ at that monster and renders him homeless and penniless, but threatens to tie his nads with barbwire and drag him around behind a truck.Too much, really… sorry, NOT!!!

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  14. Denali says:

    I’m so tired, and I finally got my computer working and saw that picture… that MADE MY NIGHT!! Hilarious!

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  15. Wnnahrse says:

    I was playing an online game that was vaguely like WoW… but more like empire building. not actual fighting just stats, and building up resources… more like Settlers of Caatan.. with troops attacking other kingdoms… You could make alliances and stuff…
    I did farmville, and fishville and have zoos… I gave up on the fish, and the farm.. I now work with 8 horses, not my own…and hadn’t touched my zoos in a month.. I am friends with my hubby’s friends on FB and with cousins and my SIL on My Space…

    Now if you will excuse me.. I have to feed my virtual cat…

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  16. Wnnahrse says:

    Yes a virtual cat….we can’t have a real one due to allergies…

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  17. Munchkin says:

    Before school started in August, I played those facebook games. School started, I started my job, and moved my horses home. The time I spent playing those games decreased dramatically. While I was never “sucked in” that bad, I have asked my friend to serve my food in cafe world once or twice.
    Why couldn’t I do it? I was caring for my horses. While sometimes I do enjoy those games, my horses come first; to everything. I have missed school to repair fences when trees fell on them, vet visits (though I try to schedule them around school,) etc.
    I’m lucky to have my horses at home because if people want to see me I can say “stop at my house and we can hang out.” What that really means is that while I do barn chores, groom horses, feed, water, etc. they get to follow me around and talk. I’ve had to cancel a few things because of my horse responsibilities too, but I wouldn’t change it if I could (well I would try to change it so no horses were injured if that was the case.) I love having my horses at home even with all the added hard work!
    The last couple of weeks though, my internet time has only been maybe on hour tops per day. I have so much work to catch up on outside that by the time the sun sets and I have read the 4 or 5 horse blogs I follow, I am exhausted.
    If you are that addicted to the internet then use timers to limit yourself if you don’t have enough self control to do it yourself.

    I hope that guy rots in hell! He deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law and then some! I have some choice punishments in mind. =)

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  18. Kookaburra says:

    Firefox has some good tools to help limit your time on the internet. You can even limit your time on certain sites.

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  19. faiteaccompli says:

    I think what has always kept me from being too immersed in the internet is some internal thing I have that tells me to do X, Y, Z before I can play. Now if I get X, Y , Z done then of course I can do what I want, play games on the internet, watch Law and Order or whatever but if my ‘real life’ stuff is not done I have a self imposed rule no playing or watching TV either.

    I really enjoy my horses more than internet though so it is not too hard and of course my daughter is the light of my life, so that part is easy too!! Now my sometimes bratty husband, he might need to compete with internet at times :D (Kidding, kind of haha)

    Just have to set priorities, not all people can do that even without internet involved.

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    • Silverhorse says:

      I’m the same way. There are things I do before I get on the internet. I’m a seasonal worker so I’m laid off during the fall and winter. When I’m laid off my internet time goes way up. With 1 to 2 feet of snow outside at any given time there really isn’t much to do once you have done all the house chores, dog care and homework. But when summer comes around there isn’t much time for the internet between work, walking the dogs, hiking, camping, fishing, horseback riding, gardening and cook outs (my college doesn’t have a summer course so no school or homework :) . During the summer there is barely a day that goes by that I don’t have something planned.

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  20. windingwinds says:

    When kids were little, I was addicted to msn chat. I was stayathome mom and dying for adult talk. Usually 4-6 hrs a day. But kids and pets never went hungry. Personally FB and the like are out of hand, I hate them. Won’t use them.

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  21. MHARF says:

    Happier note here-Mariah (3875) from the 3 Strikes Ranch debacle,gave birth to a healthy,huge,light bay or buckskin colt at 4 in the afternoon Sunday,March 28,2010.All is well,Mariah is proving to be an excellent mom.

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    • fhotd says:

      That must be the very last foal from a pregnant mare from that seizure since we were there in April. Glad Mariah and the baby are safe!

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  22. CassiaDawn says:

    Bleh, that first line should have read:
    “but there’s a bunch of ads (all by the same person) on my local kijiji that are just screaming “WTF?””
    I think reading all the poor spelling and awful grammar in those ads broke something in my head. >.<

    And the train-wreck continues:

    "are you looking for a safe kids prosect horse that dont kick buck rear bite and has colour look no more we have a Appy gelding who is such a suck he will be 5 in the spring i bought him as a well started and never touched him since now i am shocked!! i saddled him up never moved jumped on him and he is really good he needs work on the brildeing but i rode him in a halter and he works great he has NO bad habits he stands good to get his feet trimed super easy to catch saddle ect he is 15hhs this guy would make a great kids project as u can see i can ride him bare back i tried to get pics of me standing on his back but my camra died only reason i have to sell him is my gelding is cut pround and fights him so i have to sell i am open to resable offers i refuse to take anything under 1000 for more info call 948 2371 (HE IS NOT CUT PROUD) you dont come along a horse like this everyday you dont let him pass u by and he is not paperd the girl in the red shirt is only 14 and is ridding him with no problem we can stand on his back and double on him already he will be a great kids horse in time"

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  23. quietann says:

    Not going to touch the internet issue with a 10 foot pole (I am no angel there), but… related to the Morgan story, this is unsubstantiated so far, and it’s too early to know for sure, but it looks like Morgan foal registrations for 2009 may be under 1000 for the first time in decades. (The breed has averaged around 2500-3500 for a while now.) If Morgan breeders can do it (though in many cases it’s not by choice, but by aging/health problems/farm foreclosures), why can’t QH breeders? I’d hate to see the Morgan — the MORGAN, which rightfully claims to be America’s first breed — go back to rare breed status or even die out, as it nearly did during the 1930s.

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    • Taliesin says:

      I heard today on one of my Morgan lists that it was actually only 650 registrations — I hope that is wrong! With Morgans being in demand for meat (a lovely young black stallion met that fate just this past week — it was dreadful to hear about), the breed is being hit from two sides. And that is so WRONG, because a Morgan is the only kind of horse anyone needs LOL!

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  24. SmartChic says:

    I play Farmville and Happy Aquarium on FaceBook and have kept it down to about an hour a day in the evenings or first thing in the morning on the weekends so it has never interfered with any of the household or barn responsibilities. I actually start to get agitated if on the computer too long. I can’t stand to sit in one place that long, besides my sciatic nerve lets me know when it is time to get up and move around. The outdoors is much more relaxing and enjoyable even if doing chores. Hard work is very rewarding and I can’t stand to have the horses in their stalls if dirty. They get cleaned every day and more often on weekends. The hubby will go in and pick up a pile too if they leave one after we clean. Unclean conditions for the horses (stalls, water buckets, feed troughs, aisleways, etc.) are a personal pet peeve.

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  25. littledog says:

    I actually love Farmville, but I seem to have plenty enough fun with it playing 3x week for an hour. I joke with my Mom that we’re addicted, but it’s the only internet game either of us play. I get requests all the time to play this or that game, but I told myself, ONE GAME ONLY and I stick to that.
    My house generally stays more-or-less clean and I made it sparkle over this weekend, we did a lot of yardwork and got our garden ready to plant on Saturday. My horse and I saw his vet and he got a chiropractic treatment, I took our dog to the vet, he got his vaccinations and we discussed what kind of surgery he should have for his torn ACL, I met up with my community chicken coop partners to clean the coop, feed, water, collect eggs and socialize for a bit, grocery shopped, stopped by Goodwill to donate some stuff and buy ugly clothes to make a scarecrow, and I cooked us a yummy meal that included leftovers to take to work for the week.
    THEN, I got on the internet. Did my taxes, checked my retirement fund, reserved some books from the library, updated my netflix queue, researched canine TPLO surgery, played Farmville, caught up on FHOTD, emailed CNN about Naysa, and now I’m here.
    Yeah, I’m way too caught up in Farmville, and the internet in general. But my real life is definitely not going neglected–my horse and dog and significant male would agree.
    My opinion is that wasting time on games and other silly stuff on the internet, within reason, is a small price to pay for all the time the internet saves us and the wealth of information we can find. When I think of before the internet existed, today I would have had to:
    Drive to the library, delve through the rolodex files to find the books I want, stand in line to order them, pick up a tax book and the right forms, make sure I remembered stamps at the grocery store, stop by the video rental place to pick up movies and wait in line for them, call around to different vets out of the yellow pages, get references from dog owners who have had TPLO surgery and call them to discuss their opinions, call the company in charge of my retirement fund, be put on hold and after awhile get them to send me a written statement, sit in front of the TV news in case there was something about an animal abuser, and get an envelope and stamp ready just in case there was an address to send my opinion to (if something like animal abuse would even be covered.) then, after a long day, break out the Risk or Monopoly game (replacement for Farmville) and set up all the little pieces, then find some stuck in the vaccuum the next day.
    I mean, if it wasn’t for the internet I would barely know about animal abuse, the horse economy and how it relates to the slaughter industry, rescues who are doing a great job and others who pretend to but aren’t, which registries are adding to the problem and why–as well as so much other information I research for my own education.
    The individuals who waste time on the internet to the detriment of the real living beings in their lives, would find plenty of other ways to neglect their responsibilities if internet time-wasters did not exist. My opinion is that “internet addiction” as some kind of syndrome is bullshit—the real syndrome is “addiction to escaping from reality” which can take many forms, for many reasons.

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  26. littledog says:

    This made me really angry and sad–
    One Christmas quite a few years ago, all the family members were at my relatives. The kid-relatives got a gift of a remote-controlled toy robot dog from a grand-relative. They were thrilled with the toy, with the push of a button, the toy dog would bark, eat, sit, wag it’s tail, etc. The kids were giddily thrilled and played with the toy robot-dog for hours.
    In the meantime, they had a REAL dog—who had to stay outside all day by himself (all the while begging to come in and be part of the family), because he was huge and strong and completely untrained and would have wagged ornaments off the tree with his tail and otherwise disturbed their picture-perfect scene.
    I excused myself, got a leash and took Burnie for a walk around the neighborhood. He was thrilled to get a bit of attention. My family got yet another excuse to consider me “pathologically uncaring about people” or at best, a bit nutty for choosing to leave the so-called perfect family Christmas scene to be nice to a dog.
    They ended up gving Burnie away, and going through quite a few more dogs until they found the right ones for their family. To their credit, they are really good dog family members and caretakers now, many years later.
    But if I’d known then what I know now, I should have scooped Burnie up and taken him home.

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  27. greyfel says:

    I read about “The Louisiana Mare” a long time ago and wanted to see justice done for her. She is amazing and thanks to the people who rescued her, rehabbed her, and have now found a loving home for her, Habitat for Horses does such good work!
    Meyer should be tarred and feathered and a lot more. He is a bottom feeding monster who doesn’t deserve to ever come in contact with any living thing that cannot defend itself. I would like to see him try to load several wild loose tigers or perhaps two or three large wild male elephants into his trailer. Of course Meyers would not be equipped with a firearm, just his own nasty self and the tigers and elephants!
    I have emailed a lot of news outlets as suggested. I certainly hope this gets some attention and that he gets what is coming to him.

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  28. MySanity says:

    HHaaa Ha! So true about time on the internet! I don’t do games but the time I spend on FHOTD reading the posts can really take awhile to catch up. There’s a few days worth I haven’t been able to read, BECAUSE I DON”T HAVE THE TIME! When I see 300 – 400 replies sometimes I just save them for later. When my ex lost his job, Atari was popular (guess that dates me) I had to learn to play Atari football cause that’s what kept his mind off the craziness.
    Now I have to go back and read the replies!
    I hope Tony goes to jail and meets a new boyfriend who loves horses.

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  29. shadeofgreen says:

    Looking for some clarification from the Morgan people.

    I read that gushing Morgan Connection interview on the Eden Farm website and then tried to corroborate with the AMHA registry database. Pretty much none of the mares she said she bred actually have registered foals from that time period, and the two studs she owned and advertises have none from the time she became their owner on. I assume she was breeding and never bothered to register. BUT, she’s got that one colt advertised on the main page of her website, Regal Masterpiece (http://www.edenfarmliveyourlove.com/) and I can’t find any record of him in the registry. I’ve tried alternate spellings and can’t find anything, not even a pending registration (which AMHA does list). He’s not even listed when I look up the progeny of either of his parents. But there are several show results for him on Google. He must have been registered to compete, so what’s going on here?

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  30. devvie says:

    OT — 550 free horses in Ontario who will otherwise go for meat:

    http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-pets-livestock-for-sale-HELP-HELP-HELP-W0QQAdIdZ196155932

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