It’s a good time of year to make this list!
Feb 16 2010
I don’t have time today to write up the story I was planning on, so instead let’s see if we can make a list. Â Today’s list:
LOW COST OR FREE GELDING ASSISTANCE
1. Â First, I want to make a list of rescues offering these programs, with contact information.
2. Â Second, I want to know if anyone has any experience taking advantage of the services and how it went?
Here’s a newer group in Northern California that just offered a gelding clinic. Â Hooray!
http://thebackinthesaddleproject.blogspot.com/2010/02/gelding-clinic-success.html
Here are some others that I know of:
http://www.frontrangeequinerescue.org/whatwedo.html – Front Range in Colorado has been offering partial reimbursement for gelding for a long time!
http://stalliontogeldingsupport.org/ — In North Carolina but I don’t think they are location-specific.
http://www.norcalequinerescue.com/gelding.php — NorCal Rescue continues to offer this service.
http://www.equus.org/hoofcentral.html — Equus Sanctuary in Ravensdale, CAÂ also says they will help with gelding costs.
Let’s also mention vets who geld for a reasonable cost! If you are in the Pierce County, Washington area, I recommend Dr. Briskey. He normally does them for under $100. (360) 893-6587. If you have a vet that will geld at a low cost like this, please sing their praises in this thread, with location and contact information!
I know there are people who have coming two year olds that aren’t cut yet reading this. If you aren’t going to keep them a stallion prospect and if you don’t have a plan for training and showing them, just get the job done. Make the call today. They CAN get mares pregnant as yearlings and you do NOT want an oops. An oops makes you look unprofessional no matter how nice your facility or horses are.
As always, if you prefer to be anonymous, I have no problem with anyone making a second account. Â There are places that get all uptight about that and go, OMG, matching IP’s, it’s a secret conspiracy! Â All I ask is, don’t be a jerk on any of your accounts, and don’t defend/support your own posts because that’s lame. Â Other than that, you are welcome to your anonymity here, especially when it serves to help others because you can discuss your mistakes and what you learned from them.
Speaking of geldings, this is Tango and doesn’t he look like a wonderful ride? He looks super smooth and quiet!  To me this guy, even though he’s just started his post-track training, screams “nice amateur horse.” He’s available for adoption from Angel Acres. Just click here!
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Fugly- Here is an example of an ad posted by someone who SHOULD go take advantage of a gelding clinic– Please look at the ad I cut and pasted from craigslist in Baton Rouge. This was the only method I could figure out to copy the ad. All gramatical and spelling mistakes were made by the original poster of this ad to craigslist. I can only figure that this may be someone trying to sell all their mini horses– at least I hope they don’t have more than these.
“MINITURE HORSES – $200 (LIVINGSTON)
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Date: 2010-02-15, 9:34AM CST
Reply to: sale-madva-1601507328@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
BEAUTIFUL PAINT AND SOLID FULL BREAD MINITURE HORSES. 32 TO 36 INCHES HIGH. 6 MONTHS TO 8 YEARS OLD. 8 FEMALES, 4 MALES AND 2 COLTS MALE AND FEMALE. NO PAPERS. ALL MARES ARE BREAD. REPLY ONLY IN YOU ARE SERIOUS AND INTERESTED.
•Location: LIVINGSTON
•it’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 1601507328″
…and a spelling clinic.
I wonder if the mares are white, wheat or rye?
Maybe they are bread to go with what they serve off the KB trailer??
I only edited out the phone number:
3 horse slant Dakota trailer/Horse combo – $9000 (Elgin Texas)
Date: 2010-02-06, 11:56AM CST
Reply to: sale-rtuxe-1588847833@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
White Dakota 3 horse bumper pulled slant trailer and my Two Horses for sale! I have an 11 year old Tennessee walker Horse mare and her 6 year old gelding he is a Thoroughbred walker cross, he is green broke, they are ready for anything. She has team sorted before and is a genital awesome horse ! he has LOTS of power and wants to work! they both have been on trails with no problem. I can email more pics if you want or call my cell and leave message and we can arrange for you to see it all! ALL saddles and tack goes with the horses too! every thing is in awesome condition I just don’t have time for them anymore I work outside of town and need to sell everything. Trailer is an extra TALL and wide trailer its awesome has a tack room in the front! xxx-xxx-xxxx cell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! serious inquires only please
* Location: Elgin Texas
* it’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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PostingID: 1588847833
“She has team sorted before and is a genital awesome horse”
Oh lord…
“Genital awesome horse”- Freudian slip?
I just got an email from a club I belong to, SASHA, and they are looking to put together a gelding clinic. I thought was a good idea! This club is in the Spokane, Washington area and were asking for sign ups. I fortunately do not have any stallions, just a couple of geldings, but it does seem that the idea is catching on!
I have always been quick to cut any colts that hit the ground here. For one, I don’t have a set-up that allows for more than one stallion. But the main reason I geld as soon as the colt can “count to two” (and the flies are gone, of course) is because a gelding out there doing something promotes my stallion as a sire of ponies that are trainable. And the ponies don’t need to be in the show ring to prove this. I sold a gelding to a wonderful lady that drives him everywhere.
Dr McCallister in central Pa is excellent and low cost, I had my yearling done for $140.00 (i think) he also had vacs done that day.
If anyone would post personal experiences w/ late gelded stallions, (think 10 yrs of breeding under their belts) I would appeciate it.
How did it go with:
Putting them out with a herd?
Trailering?
Did they continue to talk to mares at shows, trail rides, etc.
Personal experience: Did fine out with geldings. Never tried him with mares, never had to. Got adopted to live with another gelding.
Trailering, no issues. This particular one did not talk when he was a stallion – someone trained him right.
My friend Juliane has had two ex-stallions that went out with the herd within months after gelding and not only behaved but became friends with each other!
Two experiences – one, gelded as a 15 year old. We met him within probably 6 months of him being gelded. Good on rides, good in a herd, good in the barn, you would have never known he had been a stallion by his interactions with other horses. The only way you could tell he had been a stud was his thick neck and jawline.
Second experience – we gelded a 5 year old upgrade project. Once the hormones left his system, he no longer talked to mares, no funny business in the pasture…except he was just a complete doofus. Had no idea how to interact with other horses because he’d lived his entire 5 years completely isolated from any other animal. (Why these people had him as a stallion, I still have no clue)…So he had a tendency to get beaten up on a regular basis. We sold him to a lady with one other horse and they totally love each other, so…happy ending.
My first horse was a 21 year old gelding…he was gelded months before we got him (had leased him as a stud then the owner gelded him before we bought him…looking back kids with only a few years of lessons shouldn’t have had anything to to with a stud but we didn’t know any better and our parents weren’t horse savy at all …luckily he was a perfect gentleman!)
He had been breeding all of his life and it took some time to adjust…but I think this was more because of the solitary life he had lived more than anything…he would always scream when in the round pen which was near a field and this didn’t change after gelding…I took him to my first show ever a few months after he was gelded and he was great (he was an old pro so he already knew what was appropriate behavior in the show ring), there were no issues he just went around and did his job…
a year or so after we got him we decided it was only fair to retire the old boy and he went to live in a giant field with mares and geldings until he found his forever home where he has an acre paddock that he shares with his mare companion…
once he was out in the field for a day or so he figured things out pretty quickly!
his recovery from the surgery took a bit over a week…IMO 100% totally worth it
Both of my geldings were cut rather late, both have foals on the ground and in the show ring. My younger gelding has several foals to his name, and now that he’s a gelding he’s easy to haul. I do not put him in her situations if I can help it, he’s still showing and I don’t want him to get marked up. However, he has friends he visits with across fences and seems just fine. He doesn’t talk to mares, ever, but he was not allowed to talk unless he was wearing his breeding halter. (His former owners would use a special halter and area of the barn to train the studs that there was a time for girls and a time for work. It seems to work quite well for their operation.)
Anyway, I’ve interacted with geldings who were cut late for most of my horse riding “career”. I’ve not noticed many issues with them in any way.
I just gelded a 13 year old stallion that I took in (the guy was going to shoot him, and he’s lovely). Rue had been a pasture breeding stallion. I worked with him for 2 months before he was even gelded, and I have to say, he was better behaved than my mares. In fact, his pasture was right next to my mares, one of which was “flirting” with him when she was in heat, and he hardly even glanced her way.
Now that he is a gelding, he is out with one other gelding and is actually the more submissive horse. He pays absolutely no mind to the other horses whatsoever. I haven’t had a chance to trailer him or take him to a show, but considering how quite and well mannered this horse is, I doubt it will make a difference
Several experiences with very little problem, including one over 20. One 12, after about 30 days turned out with mares and geldings, no issues at all. Another, about the same age, at first tried to round up mares, but was “retrained” by the alpha mare of that group in less than a week. The only ongoing problem I’ve encountered was an 11 year old TB who could not be turned out with a mixed group when I knew him, up to about 3 years after he was gelded. Did okay with geldings only or with mares only, but would try to separate mares and geldings and run himself into a lather; it might have helped if this place had had a strong alpha mare, but they didn’t.
The 20+ year old (I believe he was 25-26) was kept up for 60 days, as he was gelded due to a tumor and there was some concern regarding his testosterone levels (as well as some additional surgery involved). There was a lot of planning involved in introducing him to the pasture group — turning him out in a separate paddock that shared safe fences with geldings he knew, with plans to try a mare if that went well — but it was a total anticlimax, and inside of a week he was just hangin’ out with the barren mares and a couple of geldings, just chillin’ and obviously happy as a hog in slop.
Never saw a horse enjoy being dirty so much — although he did still expect his daily grooming.
Ensure the vet *knows* how old the stallion is, as sometimes the blood vessels are enlarged in an older horse and require some special attention during the surgery.
We have a 30+ year old Belgian who is a former herd stallion. He has been a gelding for some years now and is great with mares, if a little posessive. He is turned otu with our petite OTTB mare and we have had no problems. No mounting, no talking, etc. He trailers wonderfully as well, and will get into anything with anyone. He is a little stupid with geldings, but this is only a turnout issue, he’s fine with people involved.
He is generally VERY well mannered, someone raised him right and was consistent! We call it proper Draft manners
Tango is adorable. Too bad he is not in California or I would seriously consider adopting him.
OT but found this on craigs list:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/grd/1597972483.html
Looks like an OTTB the “retraining” as a H/J looks scary.
Yeah, that’s “ruining” not “retraining!”
Please tell my why that is “ruining?” While I see terrible form on the woman who is jumping (and I know VERY LITTLE about jumping), I see a lot of good things. 1. The long video shows that the horse is being worked with a lot. Yes, quantity/quality, blah blah, but these people seem patient and calm, and the video looks like it is from different sessions. 2. They don’t seem to be cranking on her mouth. 3. While I have read criticism of jumping in a western saddle, this small jump looks like the size of obstacle that one would expect to find on a trail ride. 4. There are so many horses in SoCal going to slaughter, this Thoroughbred is being started in other areas. She jumps willingly, tolerates scary stuff and is shown experiencing a trail ride. She also seems kind. It’s clear she’s green, but I think the video shows she’s willing, capable and looks like a fun horse with potential. 5. She’s healthy– not the usual wormy bag of bones people highlight here from Craigslist. 6. The fences look safe and sturdy… Okay, I’ll admit that’s a pretty low bar I’ve set, but after reading that she was being ruined, I was expecting to see barbed wire and old washing machines.
On the down side, I see no helmets, and tack/turnout could be much spiffier since they are marketing her. Also, the price seems nuts to me, considering the market.
Because if a horse has a rider who gets left behind/hits them in the mouth, it will frequently sour them on the entire idea of jumping. It causes back and neck soreness. It absolutely can result in a horse having a terrible attitude about riding.
That’s why instructors tell you to grab mane. Grab mane, pull your butt out of that saddle and give the horse a generous loop of rein if you don’t know how to jump yet. That way you won’t sour the horse.
Please excuse my ignorance, I’ve never jumped or anything before…
Does it hurt a horse to pull/hang on their mane? I know it hurts me if I catch my ponytail on anything!!
Nope! It doesn’t hurt them like it does us. It is always OK to hang on to mane while you’re learning.
Horses don’t have nerves at the base of their hairs like we do. That’s why you can pull manes without having the sh*t kicked out of you – they might not like it, but if it hurt them as much as it would a person they would try to kill you!
No, grabbing mane doesn’t hurt the horse. It’s not the same as your hair, the roots of a horse’s hair aren’t as sensitive… frankly I’m not entirely sure if they can feel much at all at the root, otherwise I don’t know how you’d be able to pull a mane for showing. Even it is a little uncomfortable for the horse, it’s way less so than being yanked in the mouth over a fence.
I’m a big fan of grabbing mane while jumping, even if you do know what you’re doing. If you do everything right, the worst thing that happens is you have a fistful of mane, and it you have an “oops” jump, which we ALL do once in a while, you’re covered.
Uhm…..WTF? The mare is cute some one needs to save her and kick them.
Wow. Looks like a candidate for the jumping clinic at Hillbilly Farms.
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~masupple/hillbilly/critique.html
OT- We just got put up on Hillbilly Farm’s wesbsite as a Satellite Barn!
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~masupple/hillbilly/satellite.html
B&B Stables are officially hillbillies!
I love those guys! LOVE THEM!
Those links are too funny, though the author seems to have a very strict dress code. He or she needs to come riding in Florida. Tank tops are necessary!
It’s all tongue-in-cheek. They claim to be obsessed with George Morris and even have a picture of him as their Christmas tree topper. When they write the jumping clinics they are pretending to be George Morris. If you look at their own jumping pictures some of them are worse than the ones in the clinic. Their sense of humor is awesome!
I love the site, it’s hilarious!
Haha, very nice!
I like the free jumping over the longe line….eeek!
What’s wrong with having a horse jump on a lunge line?
I think someone said the horse was jumping a longe line. As in, the longe line was the jump. I’d have to go back and look at the ad, but if that is true, it is an accident waiting to happen.
There’s nothing wrong with having a horse free jump on a longe line, of course.
Oh, that makes sense. I didn’t read that correctly. No, jumping a lunge line is a dumb idea, but I didn’t see that in the video. I was gunna say, jumping on the longe is a fine training technique (as long as you use cavalettis, not jumps with uprights.)
Yep, I meant OVER a longe line – see about 4:33 – 4:50 on the video. It’s just a rope strung between two barrels. Guess I was dignifying it too much by calling it a longe line!
I’m pretty sure that that is a PVC pipe she is jumping not a lunge line. I’ve used the same material (although a different size) to make cavaletti jumps. I’m 90% certain that a lunge line used as a jump wouldn’t show up that well.
I do agree with the jumping skills, tho. You can see how much she (doesn’t) enjoy being wacked with the bit while landing.
Points for the horse ’cause she crowhop when it happens. ‘sweetheart’
I taught a couple of people how to jump, yelling ‘loose rein and grab the mane.’ (A friend of mine is big on ditties, diagonal: rise and fall with the leg on the wall, Whoa: stop and stand until the next command. There is nothing like having western teammates at a IHSA show tell you the diagonal ditty promptly followed by: “I don’t know what that means!”)
I just corrected mane, I typed main.
she *doesn’t* crowhop
My proofreading not working well!
My main problem with them, is the ALL CAPS typing. I can’t stand that. Also they probably shouldn’t be training a horse – they don’t seem especially qualified, but it could be worse. I wouldn’t say they are “ruining” the mare, I’m sure some of what they’re doing is beneficial, while other things are probably teaching bad habits. She’s got it a lot better than a lot of horses, but I think the owners are reaching above their level of competence in horse training.
The horse actually looks quite nice, she balances herself decently in spite of the sack-o-potatoes riding. She might have some jumping potential—at least, if she hated jumping she would have veered out from under that hopeless rider long ago. Haven’t we seen video from that same place before? I seem to recall (vaguely) a grey horse jumping the water trough, wearing a western saddle and a La-Z-boy rider, with the same manure pile in the center of the pen, and the same all-caps misspelled enthusiasm.
I like that “La-Z-Boy” rider. Never heard that before. I admit, my jumping lately has been atrocious. I’m really out of practice. Last time I went I somehow kept hitting my ass with the back of my saddle. Never done that before. Must get to barn more often…
Yearling, heck — the Arabian Horse Registry considered any ungelded male NINE MONTHS or older to be breeding age (because, of course, it has happened).
Another advantage to gelding early is that you never have to go through the testosterone poisoning thing — and it certainly appears to cause the patient far less discomfort.
Very good point! Some horses hit puberty early – just like some kids. It’s never too early to have “the talk” or in the horse’s case, call the vet!
Very funny reply and so true, but the ad is so sad. And that was one of several horse ads today on craigslist. Another was offering a pony at $150 and two TBs that are being used as pleasure horses – a bay mare at $350 OBO with some jumping experience plus barrels and poles experience, and a thin grey gelding at $200 OBO that the poster said was a rescue. These horses were all about 10 years old. Up until now, most horses being posted on craigslist or in the paper around here had asking prices ranging from $900 to as high as $5,000.
I don’t believe there are any groups trying to offer gelding at reduced rates here in Louisiana– at least none that I know about. The LSU vet school does work with several groups to conduct a nonthly spay day for feral cats– it does seem to be helping to reduce the stray cat population.
Several groups also offer reduced cost spay/neuter for pet dogs and cats, but I haven’t seen any clinics offered for horse gelding. Is there any information that explains how these clinics are set up and how they are run and funded?
We are hoping to have the low cost clinics in a few locations to reach as many horses as possible, but you are a bit far -lol
We would be happy to help anyone who wants to start one in their area.
It went extremely well and thanks for the nice emails and comments on our site , its really really appreciated.
email info@backinthesaddleproject.com
Dick Schoenberg, Kennewick, WA, ~$120. I hauled a colt in to his clinic. He had a NICE padded stall, pads/mats up the wall to 6ft. He did wolf teeth while he was “out”. I hadn’t even thought about that part. I just wanted the “junk” removed. In and out in about an hour.
Dick Scheonberg, Kennewick, WA 509-582-6064 ~$140
Does someone with an APHA mind looking up the horse named Mega Sun Bar for me? If you find it please email me at chromecowgirl746@aol.com. He’s supposed to be a barrel racer from North Carolina.
Stallion to gelding support has a link to some other programs including:
http://www.kentuckyhorse.org/geld/ – Kentucky Horse Council
and
http://www.mnhorsecouncil.org/the%20gelding%20project.php – Minnesota Horse Council
Trying to find something in Ohio, no luck yet…
I think The Ohio State University may offer gelding for less (so their students get more practice) but I could be wrong….
If there’s a vet school in your area, it’s certainly worth checking on their prices. It may be a student vet doing the deed, but there’ll be an instructor right there ensuring all goes well.
Tango is awesome! Just watched the video, reminds me of a grey TB I used to ride, who passed awhile ago..
Dr. Lavidia Holcrum (just north of Cincinnati) has very reasonable prices. Don’t know what she charges to geld, but she has been very reasonable with her prices.
Also, Dr. Plum (also Cincinnati) has great prices. She really goes the extra mile for the aminals too. Even contacted a parasitologist at Ohio State when a new horse I got had severe pinworms and we were having trouble getting it under control. A couple other vets had blown me off and told me he just had a bad tail-rubbing habit, but she took the time to research his problem and set up a treatment for him. Thanks to her my old guy is comfortable, worm-free and has a pretty tail and she didn’t charge me a small fortune for the extra time she spent making calls and doing research. She is always willing to put in extra effort and work with the owners!
I just got a letter from my vet the other day, that they are offering two “Low Cost Gelding Days”. Moore & Company Vet Clinic, outside of Calgary Alberta Canada. 403 226 2585. They have two days coming up in the spring where you can trailer in and have a gelding done at the clinic for cheap. I only have a mare so I tossed the letter and I don’t remember the exact price, but I do remember thinking that it was an excellent deal and something FHOTD would approve of. This is a top notch vet clinic, if you are near Calgary and have a colt it would be worth calling about.
Let’s try to add phone numbers and prices to our posts with the vets and maybe we can make a spreadsheet out of this? I will of course add the disclaimer that any prices quoted are for basic procedures with no complications, and that conditions apply specific to each vet, but it might be a great resource to be able to pass out at auctions, etc. What do you think?
Every vet I know of in middle TN (with the possible exception of the big clinics) charges $150 or less…and most of them will refer you to Bubba down the road that can cut them for $75 (which I don’t recommend, I’m just saying…the ‘no money’ excuse isn’t an excuse)….
Re: that jump standard with that bay mare in Los Angeles. One slip and that could kill a rider or horse. Impaled on a piece of rebar would not be pretty. I wonder who thought that was a good idea?
Request: some time ago there was a post that listed all of the things that horses teach us…then humorous tongue in cheek response of what they “really” mean. Can someone help me find this-it was sooo funny.
As a general rule, the further away from the “metro” areas you can get, the cheaper gelding prices will be. Look for a mixed practice large animal vet (cattle, swine, goats, horses) out in a rural area. Even if that means driving 50 miles, it will be worth it to save hundreds of dollars.
Gelding is not a “new” surgery. It’s all external, and it can safely be done in the field. Don’t think that you HAVE to have a sterile, padded environment to geld in. You don’t need a specialty equine vet, or a fancy clinic.
If you are in the Wichita, KS area, call a vet in the neighboring rural towns of Halstead, Sedgwick, and Newton. In OKC, try a vet in Shawnee, Pauls Valley, or Newcastle. In Alaska, well, you are SOL, nothing “equine” is cheap up here…
I have actually heard it is better to do it in a (clean, grassy) area. I’ve always had mine done like that.
I have a 5yr appy (not registered and no where near fugly, either) that I saved from a girl who kept him on an Amish farm. At the time he was being sold as a 2 coming 3 and they had just gelded him 2 weeks prior. I bought him more not because he was as cute as could be but because they lived only a few miles from New Holland sale barn and he looked very young. They were also preparing to get on his back when I intervened. When I took him the 5 hours home I looked him over a bit better and found him to be only about 18 months old and that I couldn’t go any where near his flank or sheath area on his off side. I had emailed the people about who gelded him but never got a reply. Someone told me about how the Amish will perform a $25 gelding job on people’s horses… It took me over a year to be able to put my hand “up there” without him freaking out. The poor fella. He was so traumatized by however they did it. But I can figure no anesthesia was used and he remembered the whole thing for a long time. I imagined he was lined up with the calves. It was the only thing I could come up with to warrant such behavior. So make sure you use someone who is reputable.
In another post someone mentioned about local vet schools might give better pricing so that students can “practice”. I had my crypt colt done at Marion DuPont in Leesburg, VA many years ago for about half the money it would have cost at a clinic. So I am sure there are programs your regular vet might be willing to hook you up with.
I have heard of a local “non-pro” in my area. No way I would have one of my horses done like that – no anesthesia, just cut, but apparently it’s OK with some people. *eye roll*
Yeah, when my colt was cut, he was done in our pasture, and I think that made it more comfortable for him because then when he woke up groggy, he could stumble around in peace in a familiar place instead of waking up in Lysol Hell
Our vet charges 95 plus trip, Yay geldings! We are located N Indiana if anyone is interested.
As far as the low-cost gelding goes- We’ve had only mares going back as far as I can remember. Doc Sweeney is the low-cost vet in our area (Western Pennsylvania)- he is out of New Wilmington; however I’ve never used him– the significant other certainly sings his praises, though (he’s a beefer guy). I use Dr. John Ivancic and has always treated us and our horses right, plus a barn call is only about $40 when some of the “fancier” vets are charging $60-70 in this area. Dr. Ivancic has a set group of patients he likes to treat, so you basically need a good reference from one of his clients to get him out to your barn.
PS, the trainer/rider in that video is KILLING me. That posting looks SOOOOO EXCESSIVE. I am a Western rider, but I’ve watched the English classes go, and that is like giving me a brain aneurysm. Not sure if her timing is just off or what? Something about it reeeeally bothers me.
I made a reply to crissy that ended up as a random-looking reply to the original post. Here it is – in the right place.
The horse is cute. I found the rider very distracting – a lot of movement at the trot and the canter. Not my discipline, but I thought it didn’t look right, either.
Although distantly related, here is a prime example of why you should have your horse gelded and the unsuspecting idiocy you often run into with once assumed intelligent horse folks (my own fault). I have this cute little AQHA mare who I’ve had since she was a baby. I sold her when she was 4, bought her back 4 years later. I had an aquaintance that I’d been on trail rides with, been to her house, kept good care of her horses. She always loved this little, sometimes silly mare, so she offered to buy her on terms. I agreed and sold her a second time. First mistake, perhaps, but I knew this aquaintance would take good care of her and love her and feed her and see to her needs. After a year went by and only two payments and excuses and excuses every month I decided to recollect my mare. It wasn’t an ugly scene or anything like that, we’d stayed in good touch throughout the process because, first, I kept tabs on my silly girl, and secondly, because I think this person has good intentions and truly loves horses.
I went to pick up the horse my friends have termed, the boomerang. No kidding, as we were pulling out with my fat silly mare on the trailer, the lady says, “Oh, yeah, she might be pregnant!” Well, tally ho. I didn’t really think she was. She’s always been fat. But a little bit and a vet check later, we were sure. Come to find out, she was ‘accidentally’ bred to a Tennessee Walker, at least she thinks that’s what it was. This past November my silly baby had her own. The acquaintance requested if she did foal, that she wanted the baby. I was a little horrified and I must admit, have not answered her emails. If you can’t pay for the horse initially, why in the hell would you want two? And the second, the spawn of God knows what?
I learned my lesson. And although, I wouldn’t trade my baby’s baby for anything because he is a cute little devil if I say so myself; please geld the stallions that you aren’t doing jack shit with besides letting them graze in someone’s yard because they’re pretty. No one wants to pay for your bastards.
I just wanted to give my vet a plug for the decently priced gelding. I’m not sure what he charges for a “normal” gelding surgery because my colt was a cryptorchid. I called around and everyone else wanted at least $2000 for the surgery – and that was if everything went perfectly and there were no complications. He charged $700 for the surgery and an overnight stay at his clinic.
McDavitt Veterinary Clinic (formerly Maplecrest Equine Clinic) in Zionsville, IN.
I had to have regular dental done on my 4 horses, so I called around. I was quoted from $290/each at the fancy Equine Center to $30/each by the elderly vet that worked out of a tiny office. I didn’t expect any complications, so I went with the $30/each price! Any vet that didn’t give me an estimate was ignored. So, just by called around, I saved a TON of money………….$1,040.00 !!!!
Also, even at the “average” cost of $150/each…….I saved $480 just by making some phone calls. Also, my experience was that the vet offices tried to intimidate me and make me feel “silly” for checking prices. Let’s face it, horses are “emotional” for most people and they seemed to prey on that, which really just ticked me off and made me even more determined.
I agree with the poster that said to go to rural vets. I live about 30 miles from Boise, ID and going to Caldwell is cheaper than anywhere the other direction toward Boise! Blainey Vet Clinic in Caldwell is reasonable and will be vet of choice from here on out. Unfortunately, the elderly vet retired.
Even gelding early isn’t a guarentee against stud type behaviour – we bought an 11 month old tb colt, very chilled, very placid and dopey. He’s well bred and well put together so we were toying with the idea of keeping him entire and possibly breeding in the future – depending on his behaviour! He was gelded at about 15 months old, within a week he went from chilled out baby to testosterone fulled maniac who was taking 2 of us to lead anywhere as he was going on hind legs. This behaviour merited a visit from the vet to remove the offending anatomy. He went back to being the nice calm and dopey boy we had bought with one exception – if he gets to much sugar (haylage, too much/wrong type of hard feed etc) he behaves as though he has testosterone again! He is still very interested in the girls, but all he does is lie his head along the mares butt and will try to chew on them a bit but he never yells or tries to mount or anything, but I’ve also seen some geldings who were done at 6 months old and never had access to mares but are more riggy than late gelded ones – I think it has a lot to do with the individual horse as to how they react to the gelding.
I like the sound of assisted gelding – it’s not something I’ve come across for horses in the UK although it is offered for small animals. I also like the sound of gelding for around $100 – I think we paid around £180 in total for the visit, aneasthetic and procedure.
Along this line, I would like to help as I have extra hay and would be willing to pay the cost for three gelds by my local farm vet. But how do I go about this? All the talk of bogus rescues makes me wary to give hand outs. Anyone have recommendations for honest rescue organizations in the Minneapolis area that could make good use of my hay? and/or or point me in the direction of horses that need gelding but owners don’t have the funds?
You could trying calling a local vet you like and asking them if they have clients that could benefit. Or also, calling Animal Control as they probably get a few calls here and there asking about discounted services.
I don’t have the time, money, skill, etc. for Tango, but . . . DO WANT!
He would probably appreciate cookies from an admirer!
I bred (not bread) 3 horses, all Swedish WBs – 2 were Class I and 1 a Class 2. I was so impressed with the 1st that I decided to keep him a stallion (even tho’ I knew zilch about stallions, their handling, their special needs, how to market and campaign them, etc…) By the Spring, he was a maniac. I was afraid of him, which didn’t help getting him handled. I had the vet come to geld him and it was all we could collectively do to get the tranquilizer in him. Within a few months, he was the nicest guy in the world and sold to someone looking for an eventer prospect. Needless to say, when the next two breeds resulted in colts, they were gelded as soon as the flies died.
Found a good one on CL. Fugly, you will like this one. A 15 year old TB, but don’t let his age foul you.
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/grd/1603714939.html
THOROUGHBRED. 15years old.gelding. dont let his age foul you.
would make a great 4H horse
-has worked with handicaped kids in the past(riding/leading)
-stands for farrier,bath,saddling up,worming,shots.
-up tp date on worming and shots
-broke to ride
-no papers and i dont know his registered name.
-has a tattoo you can do a reseach on and get his info.
-rides western and english or even bareback
-easy keeper. i have had him on square bails w/ 1 small coffee can of grain a week.. looks great
-had coggens test back in june2009 test was negitive
-he is about 16 to 17 hands
-his only bad habit is he pawls at the dish when he eats grain what thoroughbred dont
-loves to run
-hasnt had shoes on for 5 year but is hooves look great.
-can be used for just about anything. trails, etc
-no tack
- in the pictures all i have is bailers twine. I’m riding him bareback
—I’m asking $300 FIRM for him or trade something of equal value.. email me for my number
The pics are very appropriate. At least he isn’t skinny, but I cringe thinking about what his feet might look like. Poor fella.
What I don’t get is that this apparently well seasoned fella is all the shit for 300 clams yet willing to trade for some of equal value. So what’s up with that shit?? Do dingbats get bored with reliable and steady and crave something new?? How about a bike, or a car, or pair of underwear?? Jeesh! I just don’t get people~
I’m fron the Cincy area….this horse looks oddly familiar to me. I may have seen him at a schooling show.
I am from BC Canada, and the last time that I gelded a pony, it was a little over $400… Id LOVE to find a cheaper price than that. Anyone know of any vets in my area that are a bit more reasonable with gelding price? I dont have any colts, but if I happen to bring something home thats not gelded, Id want the job done asap haha.
Ill finish reading the comments later but if anyone knows of any cheap “cutters” in BC, Please post!!
Another good one- She sold one horse and now she is “the best horse broker in town”
http://columbus.craigslist.org/fgs/1598897242.html
http://thewonderfulworldofphotosbysk.blogspot.com/
Not to rain on the parade here, but low cost castration clinics are for people in need, not for people who think their veterinarian is expensive.
Yeah, I would agree that subsidized services SHOULD be left for those in genuine need. But hey, I’m all for finding a reasonably priced vet!
I don’t think all low cost spay/neuter/castration clinics are necessarily subsidized ones. Someone would have to read the fine print on where they go. I think anyone wanting to pay less should be able to use them if it means keeping more unwanted animals from being produced, because it sure does cost more to support them after the fact than it does to nip the problem in the bud.
We have a local low-cost spay/neuter clinic that is not “subsidized” – http://www.fixforlife.com. They DO offer a program for low-income families but the clinic prices are for EVERYone.
OT kinda: I just dropped off my 3 y/o stud prospect (I think I’ll drop the prospect @ 6 y/o) at the trainer’s. His first real trailer ride and new place, and he handled like a sweetie. Closest thing to ‘bad’ that he did was jump out of the trailer unloading (he backed out before). Which is exactly how is mom unloads if she exits face 1st.
While I was talking to the trainer I set my ‘deserves to keep equipment’ terms. We are totally on the same page about what constitutes suitability and what will result in the ‘boy horse brain surgery’. Even out of the trailer, surrounded by 4 mares w/ 1 teasing he was a good boy. Little nicker to say ‘hello’ then went into the stall. (And he has never had a stud chain, I think that if it is needed to control the stud then he is too studdy for me.)
Your standards sound similar to mine. Let us know how he does in training!
When I had my colt gelded, I hauled him to the University of Florida. They gelded him for $75, plus $5 for the bute.
My vet quoted me $125 to $450 to geld my bilateral crypt colt. That is great compared to what I hear other people get quoted almost a $1,000 to geld a unilateral crypt horse. He was out yesterday and even though neither nut has dropped, he was able to feel them so it shouldn’t be too much of a bother to geld him. I have a great vet. I’ll mention his name tomorrow after I ask his permission.
That is a great price. It also bears noting that, as long as you can confine them properly, sometimes it pays to wait. I have seen colts drop in the spring of their 2 year old year and be able to be gelded normally at a low cost. Again, IF you can confine them properly and there is no risk of issues from having an intact colt on the premises.
He’s going to be 3 in May. We waited as along as we can. My vet said his left nut is just the size of the tip of his thumb. He’s a man and his thumb is bigger than mine…but that is still a small nut…lol!. He said we’d just do it this spring. I don’t want to wait anymore. Right now he’s a perfect angel. No signs of studly attitude or anything. I don’t want to push my luck. One reason I think there is no studly attitude is that I have no mares and there aren’t any around my area either. I think I’m the only person here that keeps their horses at home. My vet is awesome! He came out yesterday to check out this same colts foot as it has a abscess and I wasn’t comfortable waiting for it to erupt on it’s own. He came to my house, gave both horses check ups, both got tetanus shots and he found the abscess and cut a whole in his hoof so it could drain…all for $85. Both my horses really like this vet. I really like this vet. I hope he lets me put his name on here! I know my vet in South Dakota won’t mind me using their name. Dr. Ismay’s in Sturgis, SD…they 100% rock. They have a equine clinic and a small animal clinic. In separate buildings but on the same property. They are awesome vets and really nice people. They are the ones who gave me the advice on what to do when I first got this colt when he was 3 days old. I was at the auction and a slaughter man bought his mom and gave me the colt. And no, I had never had a colt before…much less a orphan. We did good together. He’s never been sick a day in his life except for this abscess. I am thankful for my vets. Sorry for the babbling.
Babble away
And yeah, if he’s that old, you’ve waited as long as you can!
Oh wow, almost 3? I was starting to panic that my 9-month-old hasn’t dropped yet. *sigh*
Just waiting for the “testicle fairy” to appear… LOL
I have an 8 month old and asked my vet when he should be gelded. He said he would like to go 1 year if he doesn’t get to frisky. So far so good. My only concern is after reading about gelding they say it is better to do it in the cold months. Well here we are in February and if I go for the 1 year that will be in June what do you guys think?
I have always had mares so I am not as educated on this as I would like. Would appreciate the input.
Santa Rosa County Horse Assistance Council, Inc. offers free/low-cost castration to horse owners in Santa Rosa County, FL. We have a 5-horse castration clinic set up for Tuesday, Feb. 23. Our web site is srchorseassistance.org
I am the contact person. Joy Campbell, 850 261-5332. This is our second year of offering these castration clinics. We castrated 11 stallions last year and one already this year.
Thank you for posting that!
I am delighted to see more rescues starting castration programs. Even though our rescue is located in North Carolina, we know a really good vet in Colorado: Running Horse Veterinary Clinic – Deb Gilbertson DVM & MD – Wellington, CO 80549 – 970-556-3320
Gelding $115. Very low cost spay and neuter, also. All of Deb’s prices are very reasonable.
http://www.horseprotection.org & http://stalliontogeldingsupport.org
In my area(northwestern IL), Dr. Aubrey Berridge and Milan Equine Clinc holds “gelding days” and “tooth and vaccination days”. The horses come to her, and you get a discounted price. She does more than one a year I believe. She sends notification to her customers, and I gladly pass it along to those I know who are looking – or should be! I think she even has a face book page. I must sing her praises. If she doesn’t “know” and answer – she’ll tell you and then work her tush off to find it for you. She is not quick to jump to the most expensive or extreme treatment and will gladly tell you to use a “home remedy” if she thinks it appropriate and worthwhile. She has the best interest of the horse at heart and will work with the owner to find the best solution.
Horse Haven of Tennessee – http://www.horsehaven.net – we have a castration clinic, a euthanasia program, and a feed assistance program. We’re trying…..
Anyone looking for an incubator in MN?
From Craigslist:
We have one egyptian arab mare, a paint mare, a gelded mini, and an arab colt for sale. The egyptian arab is approximately 18 years old and has been used primarily for breeding. She is green broke but again, primarily used for breeding since she is an incubator. The Paint mare is trained and a great trail horse with potential to be western. She is approximately 8 years. The mini is 4 and extremely friendly. With very little work he could be rideable. The Arab colt has very little training and would need a dedicated owner.
The following are VERY negotiable:
Paint Mare = 500
Arab Mare = 300
Mini = 200
Arab Colt = 100
Poor Arab mare, being called an “incubator”! Sheesh, I wonder if I should buy her to hatch these duck eggs of mine, since this other bator didn’t do such a great job with the last batch…:P
I haven’t read any of the other responses, so I hope I’m not repeating someone else.
The U of IL has 4 free/low cost clinics every year, in Jan & Feb. Vet students get to do the deed while Dr watches and helps if need be. They are usually booked by Oct, so you have to call early to reserve a spot.
Fugly, I have used Briskey to geld a mature stallion. We hauled into his place, he traq’d him, laid him down and took care of the “issues”. He then tossed the “issues” to his dogs who stood around waiting anxiously for the treat. It was a little gross, but I didn’t need them. I had no plans to hang them from the hitch of my pick-up truck (don’t you hate those!). We took our new gelding home, allowed him to heal up and 5 years later, he’s one very fat, happy gelding.
Briskey is an old, farm vet. I don’t recommend him for most procedures, but for a low cost gelding, he can do the trick easily and cheap.
That’s how I feel. He’s not my lameness vet, for example. But for gelding? He knows how to get the job done, the price is great, and I’ve never had any problem with complications.
Wow. This is fantastic! Those are super cheap prices for gelding horses, heck, all over the county!
I don’t have a horse to geld, but maybe you guys can help me with something else, since you know so much about vet prices, and people with horses usually have other animals as well.
I have two bunnies, a male and a female that I am looking to get fixed. The LOWEST prices I can find in my area are $150 to fix a male, and $200 to fix a female. That is more than it is to fix a horse according to this post! There are less than a handful of vets in my area that I have been able to find that even have some experience with rabbits. Most veterinarians I called do not even see bunnies, and I do not want to take my rabbits to someone who knows what they’re doing. From what I hear they are very sensitive to anesthtesia, so I need someone with a lot of experience.
I am unable to work due to a chronic disability, and about a year ago I had to withdraw from college because I got too sick to attend. Currently I am going through the long, tedious process of getting Disability, and while they drag their feet I have no source of income. My birthday is in a couple days, and what I have saved up from Christmas, plus what I will get, I think I will be able to finally afford to get this procedure done as long as I don’t buy anything else.
My female bunny, Chloe, will be two this month. And my male bunny, Loaf, will be a year in two months. I took Loaf in December from my friend who was unable to care for him anymore due to marital problems. Right now I am alternating their “free time” (ones in while ones out) so they both get time out of their cages. It would be much easier for me due to my very limited amount of energy if they could both be out at once. And they would both get more free time. However, if I am unable to afford to get at least one of them fixed, I will continue the routine I already have set up.
These bunnies are my children, and they bring me so much joy despite the pain I’m constantly in. I want what’s best for them, and I want to get them both fixed so (a. they don’t have babies and contribute to the already enormous rabbit overpopulation problem and (b. so they don’t get reproductive complications later like cancer.
I live in Northeastern Pennsylvania. Particularly in the Wilkes-Barre/Dallas area. If any of you know of an experienced rabbit veterinarian that has reasonable spaying/neutering prices…please let me know. I will pay it if I must, but $200 dollars seems like a little much to spay/neuter a 4lb rabbit…and it’s money I really don’t have due to my present situation.
My email is: flightangel06@hotmail.com. I’m sorry if this is inappropriate to post here, but I’ve been following this blog for years, and I really don’t know of anywhere else where there are so many knowledgeable people that I could ask. I’ve already tried posting in communities on Livejournal with no avail. If anyone can help me, I will forever be in your debt, and so will my buns!
I have a coming 22 y/o NSH (Arab/Saddlebred cross) that I purchased as a 7 y/o. I was told then he could NEVER be turned out w/other horses as he would ‘kill’ them. Well I don’t believe/like individual turn out so I decided to get him use to other horses carefully. I quickly found out that turning him out w/other geldings was a bad idea, he was quite aggressive. As far as I could find out he was gelded around 2. Whomever did the job did it a bit sloppily, as he has quite a bit of skin hanging there
I’ve never had a horse gelded myself, but it looks like the testicles were removed and the scrotum left.
I was told by the vet that nothing was left behind. So for years I turned him out only w/mares. He only herded them when they were in heat, but he was always super gentle. But when they are in heat, he will mount them, but only if the mares let him. Years ago, I had a young girl boarder at a barn I was at come running to me; your horse is breeding the mare. I told her not to worry but she was in a near panic; no, she said, he’s in her LOL. Poor kid, she was really upset
Never thought a gelding could penetrate a mare
As he got older, I tried again to turn him w/other geldings, and he’s doing better. But he can be very aggressive w/the more submissive ones.
On some occasions, he’s been turned out w/a mixed group, and it’s never worked well. He gets protective of the mares and becomes even more aggressive w/the other geldings.
When he meets a new gelding, his squeal is as deep/loud as a stud’s
I’ve asked a few vets over the year to look at him to make sure he was gelded cleanly and I was always told ‘yes’. No one ever suggested that I get him tested for hormone levels.
On a totally OT, I need some suggestions. I’m looking for an accounting package. What do people use/recommend for a professional horse person w/a small boarding/training/lesson business that is quite computer illiterate, so something really simple, and cheap too I might add
Thanks in advance
There was a blog on that back in October:
http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/how-technologically-advanced-is-your-barn/
Lots of good information.
Ruthie
I would have some bloodwork done – when they’re gelded it’s not just the testicles that are removed, they tubes they are attached to (vasdephron tubes – not sure on the spelling) also produce testosterone (and possibly sperm – not sure) and if they aren’t fully removed the horse can remain studdy in their behaviour so even if the vet can’t feel any testicles I would have bloods done. Also another thing to consider is there may be a retained testicle. Bloodwork is a fairly cheap way to be certain.
Or if you can’t afford to cut, you could just sell to this person! (If anyone happens to know the *why?* of this ad please share!)
from http://austin.craigslist.org/grd/1603703156.html
Looking For Stallion – $1 (Round Rock/Hutto/Gtown)
Date: 2010-02-16, 1:58PM CST
Reply to: sale-438yf-1603703156@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
I am looking to purchase a stallion or colt. Papers not important as I have no interest in breeding him. Please email me if you have one for sale at a reasonable price. Age, height, breed, etc.
——-OR——-
If you are looking for a inexpensive place to board your stallion I have a 1/4 acre pasture available for $50 a month if you pay for your grain and hay. I can feed 2 times daily for you. Coggins a must.
Thanks.
I don’t really think I would want to know the “why” and honestly, if I did have a stallion, this would be the LAST place I would board him!! Scary!!
I’m probably being really paranoid, but my first instinct about the “why” is that this may be a Doug Sphincter type of person. Google the movie “Zoo” if you aren’t familiar. I really hope I’m wrong.
Exactly… my very first thought was, this guy’s probably a sexual deviant!!!
Marjie Newton, come visit the Mn.Hooved Animal Rescue and see what your local 501(c)3 rescue is like! The Mn.Horse Welfare Coalition is planning another castration clinic for the spring 2010,the first one went well,if I remember correctly about 20 stallions became gentlemen that day.The stipulations were that all stallions had to be halterbroke,both testes descended,owners to declare need.As with anynew endeavor,refinements will be made,all in all though,it “came off” well!
If you’re near Woodburn, IN I highly recommend Dr Rex Miller from the Woodburn Vet Clinic. (260) 632-4612
I’m not sure what he charges for gelding these days, I haven’t had to have it done in nearly 10 years. But in general his prices are good and he’s known as one of the best equine vets around here. But ask for Dr Miller specifically- the other vet is good, and will see horses, but even he admits he’s not great with horses. Dr Miller also does travel somewhat, and will go to the surrounding areas in Ohio. He doesn’t have a horse facility at his clinic.
McAlester area of OK, I use Drs Sells (hubby/wife team). It is $98 to geld regular, $250 for crypt. They can also spay mares for $500.
The horse is cute. I found the rider very distracting – a lot of movement at the trot and the canter. Not my discipline, but I thought it didn’t look right, either.
Tax-FAIL The wise people who rule the state of Washington have decided that, while stallions and mares are breeding animals, geldings are subject to sales tax. Yeah, that’ll make breeders more anxious to geld their stallions.
*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*
If this is such a damn part of the agriculture business, why can’t they pay people not to make horses the same way they pay people not to grow certain crops in order to control supply and demand? Let me know where to pick up my check!
OT – I dunno if anyone has posted this since it happened Monday, but Elmer the 38 year old competitive trail horse was put down.
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=15827
He had a long, wonderful life with a gentle, easy end surrounded by friends.
Holy cow, I hope my horse lives to 38. I refuse to acknowledge she’s going to be 12 in May. She just turned 6 the other day how can she be almost 12?
I have a 30 year old and I hope she lives to be 38 or older, too!
At the ranch where I board, the gal who runs it has a day every year where the vet comes out and gelds everything on the property that needs gelding. Also, some of her friends and neighbors will trailer in, to save money. Anyway, we scatter the colts and stallions all over the big arena, and the vet goes from one to the next. Sounds chaotic, but actually works pretty well. Especially since a lot of the colts are pasture buddies. And especially after they’re all on drugs! When it’s over, beers are passed around, and we laugh and socialize as the colts come to. Oh, and the vet? Same guy who got to go to two Super Bowls, to tend to the Denver Bronco’s Thunder. It cost me around $100 to have my colt gelded this way.
Totally O.T but NEWSFLASH our favorite freak Dena (who could forget!!) has been arrested and charged with THEFT of tack worth over $4000.00 !! .She stole it then advertised on Craigs List .The newspaper article with a lovely photo (can we say mugshot) is posted over on the icers board for all to see. Just thought there would be more than a few people here who would enjoy the fact that karma really is a bitch!!
While of course I am equally delighted about karma finally doling out what has been deserved for a long time (and hope the legal system will punish her to the fullest extent of the law – there’s a very long record here including assaulting an officer, drunk driving and drug possession, among other things), the individual in question loves nothing more than attention, even negative attention…so now that the news has been shared, we’re going to end it here.
Unfortunately, there are many like her. A drug addict will do anything for a fix. Boy am I glad my mom scared me into never even trying anything. Thanks, Mom! And lock up your tack, everybody!
Off topic, but I wanted to get the news out… my mom forwarded this message to me… I live in the area, but have no means of helping other than to spread the word, so… If there is anyone in the mid-Atlantic region that can help, please do.
Last Friday, 29 horses were seized from an individual in Augusta County,
Virginia. She has been charged for animal cruelty.This person had been
charged twice before with animal cruelty for starving her horses, but
was currently on appeal. As I said, 29 horses were seized with one
found dead. These poor animals endured the recent blizzard and 2 feet
of snow with NO FOOD or WATER. There were mares with foals, pregnant
mares and stallions. All the horses are currently being housed and
under the care of Mountain View Equine Hospital.
The Augusta County SPCA is coordinating donations for the seized
animals care. They are in desperate need of the following: hay (both
round and square bales), grain, halters, feed pans, etc. They are also
asking for manpower to help with the workload. I’ll do more checking
on that. I’m going to place some calls tomorrow in our area to see
what help we can offer in Rockingham County. Can you spread the word
throughout the state in hopes that 4-Hers can open their hearts to
these horses that have endured so much? More information can be
obtained from the Augusta County SPCA at 540-885-7722.
Sorry icer thead link not current, heres the copy again sorry no picture in this artice. Tack Theft Arrest
February 16, 2010
A 44-year-old Hutchinson woman was arrested after numerous law enforcement agencies served a search warrant on a rural Franklin residence and located thousands of dollars of horse tack equipment. According to Meeker County Sheriff Jeff Norlin, Dena Joy Rodacker is being held in the Renville County Jail pending formal charges. The search warrant was served Saturday at a residence at 73265 640th Street by officers from the Meeker, Wright, Carver, and Renville county sheriff’s offices. Norlin says the arrest came after a rural Litchfield man, who had several thousands of dollars worth of tack stolen in December, recognized one of his stolen saddles, worth $4,000, for sale online. Alan Koch alerted the Meeker County Sheriff’s office, which began an undercover online conversation with Rodacker to gather further information. With that information and other information from separate investigations of burglary and theft of horse tack throughout central Minnesota, law officers obtained the warrant to search the Franklin residence, where tack including saddles, bridles, horse pads, stirrups, girths, breast-collars, horse blankets and other items were seized. The investigation continues.
This is an exact copy and paste of a public newspaper KDUZ.com so any personal info contained is public record
Whoops!! Slipped up again.
*headdesk*
I can remember back in the 70s when, FINALLY, the Arabian folks realized that not every colt born was stallion quality though it sure seemed like people thought so based in the tragically “under-represented” numbers of geldings (this was in California). Then the Arabian associations got the idea that if they held really great competitions and championships (with prize money and EVERYTHING!) for geldings that maybe, just maybe, there would be more “brain surgeries.”
My experience at the time (from AQHA) was that if you had a nice colt and you gelded it, you’d have an outstanding gelding.
The Arabian folks figured that out, too.
Could you please also do a post corraling info on euthanasia assistance. Please? Around these parts you can’t bury a horse, only have them taken to the horse cemetery. That alone is almost $600. Vets I have asked, they charge anywhere from $300-$500 depending on when they’re called and what is wrong and even if xtreme age is all that’s “wrong” they all want to do a comprehensive exam. To “prevent a convenience killing.” My employer went out of business last year and I’m surviving on unemployment, my mare is 31 and having a bit of a hard time this winter with arthritis. Not a bit. A LOT of a hard time. It would be helpful if there was even a small amount of assistance for part of such a steep cost tho I’d never ever EVER send her to auction.
You bet – we’ll do that soon.
That is just wrong… you mean to say, you don’t have the right to euthanize an animal that belongs to you, unless the vet deems it necessary??? And you can’t bury it? Where the heck do you live?
If it was me, the regulations can go to hell, I’d take my horse down to the back end of my pasture, put a bullet in her to end her suffering, and pay a local redneck with a bulldozer to bury her at an appropriate depth (at least 3 feet). Of course I’d prefer to have the vet euthanize, but if the vet won’t do it, I will. I’m not going to let one of my animals suffer if I can prevent it.
But, in my area, it’s perfectly legal to do all that. The only real restriction is that you can’t bury them below the water table, or within a certain distance of wetlands or rivers, and it has to be at least 3 feet of dirt on top of them. We also have the option to haul them to the local landfill, although I would choose to bury one, myself, since I have plenty of space to do so.
I live in Georgia, outside any city limits. I believe the rules I’ve quoted are state rules.
Where are you located?
There are groups who can assist , Im near Sacramento Ca our euth clinics are $100 for everything . There are a few other people with euth programs posting here so even if you aren’t near by maybe we can find a way to help.
Where are you? I’m a good researcher…
Ruthie
It’s not something any one really talks about – my tb was out on loan and had an accident while out hacking which resulted in him being euth’d. Technically in the UK you can bury YOUR horse on YOUR land, I know a few livery yards which work around that and will bury horses who died on the yard. I was really lucky in that someone who sort of knew the loanee – not really well or anything – offered to bury him on their land. It was one of the only ‘good’ aspects of the whole business.
OT: If anyone is near the Herold, CA area I saw this add on CL.
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/1604155254.html
FREE MARE (HERALD)
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Date: 2010-02-16, 4:40PM PST
Reply to: sale-jcxx9-1604155254@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
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Daughter has grown up and moved away. Have a mare she hasn’t been ridden in about a year. she’s an older horse but vet says she can still breed she is a western pleasure horse.
Come and get her, or I’ll have to make “other arangements” Call 209-748-5751 Chris
I understand that the CSU vet hospital (Ft. Collins, CO) has low-cost gelding clinics now and then – that’s all the phone lady could tell me. I’ve sent an e-mail request for more info. I know they are outstanding, and can give a “teaching discount” for surgery for rare things – to educate their students and give hands-on training.
Ruthie
Well I guess I am now sorry I asked Fugly to summarize some resources for low-cost euthanasia.
I do not own a gun and if I did I would not know how to use it and even then would not be able to kill my own horse. OMG what If I “missed”??? Shaking, sick with sorrow at losing my forever heart companion my growing up horse, sick with fear that it might not take the first time to put her out of her misery. Yeah you betcha my aim and delivery would be STELLAR. Yeah. RIIIIGHT.
Second I don’t know any rednecks and no I am not one of “them” and I also frankly think that term is insulting to the farmers that the term was originally coined for who may I remind you feed this nation.
Third there ARE such things as laws and ordinances and I’m in a zoning “hell.” So, what, you want me to go to prison for illegally killing and disposing of a large animal on property that doesn’t belong to me except in the lease? Or maybe I should go buy property (sure, on my unemployment, that really works) so I can bury the horse with the help of the “rednecks” who I’m supposed to get to shoot her and are going to dig the hole.
Go figure. How a simple request nets this bashing??? I am amazed at these “suggestions” which seem to me to be more like puffing off some false bravery.
Fugly let me try once more so there’s no confusion from blog readers some of who might also need or appreciate the same thing I’m asking for: could you at some future time maybe post some resources? Thank you. Scuse me while I run away now to find more polite and respectful folks who can offer some real help.
Easy, girl, easy!
A couple of people offered to help you – did you see those messages? They asked where you lived and offered to do research. Also, did you see the note about Front Range?
Yes, you got one pretty blunt reply. It can get kind of blunt here but generally no one means any harm. I can imagine that your heart is pretty tender right now but take a closer look and answer the people who asked you for info. Heck, if you find a vet with a reasonable price and an alternative for disposal, some of us might be willing to chip in to help if you set up an account we can contribute to.
Hugs – I found that trying to work out the last act of kindness for my old horse was one of the most upsetting things I ever had to deal with. I think almost everyone who reads this can sympathize with you.
I had a great experience with Front Range Equine rescue. My colt was a double crypt….they sent me a check within 10 days of me mailing them my receipts. Great, great help. They help with euthing your horse too.
OT, but.. it’s nice to see that if you’re a convicted horse murder banned from equestrian events, you can just move into showing dogs and we’ll welcome you with open arms –
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/the_lady_is_champ_and_horse_killer_5Bn6EEtjS0KliQd4nuG8uJ“
Thanks a lot Ruthie
I read all the comments and it’s mostly about record keeping not the finances of it. I may just have to go back to ‘numbers’ on my Mac. After all these years of finally getting use to my QuickBooks LOL
And tks to the other person about getting my horse blood tested. I will mention it to my vet when we do coggins/spring shots
Not horses, but assistance is available for donkeys:
http://www.longhopes.org/
We have gelding, euthanansia and training assistance, plus an emergency hay fund.