I’m declaring this Free Information Day!
Nov 02 2009
SIDE NOTE FOR THE LOCALS HERE IN KING COUNTY: For horses’ sake, PLEASE vote for Susan Hutchison today! Dow Constantine will CLOSE Animal Control and then we’ll be begging the Sheriff for help with skinny horses. We all know how well THAT works. Unless you want things to get a lot worse for our animals, vote for Susan.
UPDATE – I just did a summary of the horses we still need info for on page 5 of the comments.
No time to write anything complicated today, but it just occurred to me that it’s a new month which means myself and every other AQHA member here has $10 of free searches, and I have access to the Jockey Club’s tattoo traces (that’s unlimited) so if you are trying to ID a Thoroughbred, or find out who the current registered owner is of a Quarter Horse, post your question here!
When I run out of AQHA credit, I’ll post and then someone else can jump in.
I know we have folks here with Datasource for Arabian horse questions, and I’m sure we have people with APHA access and other breeds, so don’t be shy. Post it if you want to know the answer!
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Here is some ApHC (Appaloosa) info requested:
“appychik says:
I’m wondering about two ApHC pedigrees…
First is Go Lady Go, a 1954 ApHC mare by Chief Apache out of Gold Digger Meyer. I’ve got her sire’s (Chief Apache) information all figured out but still haven’t gotten anywhere with her dam’s side. Any help would be appreciated.â€
The only thing I got off the ApHC site on Gold Digger Meyer is:
Reg #26750
Dun with spots over loin & hips
I have had good luck just calling the ApHC and asking them for info like sire, dam, foals, etc. so you might have luck that way. They’ve never asked me for my member # to do that.
“The other is hopefully visible here (see: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sk+gringolet) not sure if that link will work, but it’s for my Andy/Appy, SK Gringolet. I’ve talked to his breeder but haven’t gotten anywhere. Wondering if anyone can fill in those holes… Princess Amber S (ApHC) – missing dam’s (J Bars Red Flame) sire/dam information; Lamar S R (ApHC) – missing dam’s (Bay Bonnie Braids) sire/dam information; Don Clevah (AQHA) – missing dam’s (Scare Along) sire/dam information.â€
J Bars Red Flame:
J Bars Red Flame is by Papa Red Boy who is by Double Patch and out of Toasty Bit (TB).
J Bars Red Flame is out of Chacalotta who is by Peacock’s Eagle and out of Sally E.
Double Patch is by Double Reigh (TB) and out of Kathy.
Toasty Bit (TB) is by Papa Red Bird and out of Out to Dine.
Peacock’s Eagle is by Red Eagle’s Peacock and out of Eagle Color.
Sally E. (ApHC ID) is by Snooper E. (AQHA) and out of Shorty E. (AQHA).
Bay Bonnie Braids:
Bay Bonnie Braids (AQHA) is by War Chief by Joe Hancock.
Bay Bonnie Braids is out of Hepler’s Baby Doll by Chicaro Bill by Chicaro (TB)
“knightwatchâ€
Features Gold
Reg#N 464061 foaled 5/9/87 Alabama solid palomino
Sired by Feature (ApHC) who is by Feature (AQHA) and out of No Razzle Dazzle.
Out of Tee Four Two (AQHA) who is by Mains Leo Buck and out of Tee Four Anne.
Feature (AQHA) is by Impressive and out of Hearts N Flowers (by Jet Deck)
No Razzle Dazzle is by No Nonsense and out of Plaudits Cuella (AQHA)
“The Wonder Horseâ€
“Joe Bar Star
(Pedigree Please, I own this horse and do not have his paperwork, I really want to know more about his line. I’d also like to be aware of his HYPP status.)â€
Joe Bar Star
Reg# 498942
Foaled 4/1/92 in Nevada
Dark bay or brown, white with spots over back and hips
Joe Bar Star is sired by Joe Bar Too who is by Joe Bar and out of Walbar Redwing Hart
Dam is Pratt Pepper Girl who is by Box M’s Red Pepper and out of Pratt’s Star M.
Joe Bar is by Mr. J.B. who is by Joker B.
Joe Bar’s dam is Poco Bar Doe (AQHA) by Wiggy Bar.
Box M’s Red Pepper is by Flint Creek Redd Cloud and out of Crystal’s Sno-Drop.
Pratt’s Star M is by Dun Roven Chelsea’s Image and out of Pratt’s Sully Star.
“The Wonder Horse,” please email me at morganappaloosa@aol.com for photos and info on Joe Bar Star’s grandsire, Box M’s Red Pepper, as I grew up with him and have photos and info. I own one of Box M’s Red Pepper’s daughters and a grand daughter. Box M’s Red Pepper horses are exceptional family horses who can perform, too. My mom sold him to Alice Pratt for a short time before buying him back and owning him for the rest of his life. Alice Pratt bred Pratt Pepper Girl. It is hard to find a Box M’s Red Pepper so my jaw hit the floor when I brought up Joe Bar Star’s pedigree!
Montes Li says:
Just joined today! I’ve been following and lurking for a while. it’s been great!
I’d love to have some info on my ApHC gelding Montes Li
Montes LI
Reg# 493701
Foaled 7/2/90 in Georgia
Dark bay/brown, white with spots over body & hips
Sired by Joker’s Rocky Bar who is by J. Monte’s Rockledge and out of Squanto’s Babe.
Dam is Fancy Free Bullet (AQHA) who is by Gold King Bullet and out of Miss Fancy River.
J. Monte’s Rockledge is by Jokers Rockledge (Joker’s Monte x Money Creeks Coalridge) and out of Patche’s Leopard Lady (Squaw’s Brave Eagle x Lady Girl)
Squanto’s Babe is by Sni-A-Bar John (Squanto’s Sni-A-Bar x Pepper Princess) and out of Apache’s Silver (Hands Off x Star Nez)
Gold King Bullet is by Gold King Bailey )Hank H. x Beauty Bailey) and out of Polla Kay who is by Bullet Hancock.
Miss Fancy River is by Lost River Bar and out of Fancy K Bar.
Snowline says: I would like to know if an APHA gelding we sold a few years ago was registered in his new owner’s name. His name was All Dun Smokin, a red dun about 10 years old then. Thank you.
Here is the APHA info
Foaled: Sunday, March 17, 1996
Color: RED DUN
Pattern: SOLID
Sex: GELDING (3-30-1997)
Sire: HOLLY HOLY SMOKE (QH)
Dam: KATCHY DUN IT
Owner: GUTHRIE, JOHN W & JANICE L
Breeder: YOSEMITE EQUINE SERVICES
Owner Contact: GUTHRIE, JOHN W & JANICE L
39214 WASHBURN LN
OAKHURST CA 93644-9707
Ownership history
TRANSFER May 31, 1997 GUTHRIE, JOHN W & JANICE L OAKHURST, CALIFORNIA
ORG OWNER Mar 17, 1996 YOSEMITE EQUINE SERVICES COARSEGOLD, CALIFORNIA
To Sells Bells RE: HYPP Status of GACHEMA GEFRANE APHA #420,898
Unfortunately APHA does not track HYPP status. However, I do not see anything in his pedigree to indicate he has any bloodlines that trace to Impressive.
Saddlebreds:
Stardust’s Time Will Tell #113646, chestnut gelding foaled 5/10/2003
Breeder: Willard McRae or Vickie Winans
Fenton, MI
Ownership History: Ray &/or Margo Knabusch 5/10/03 to 1/30/04
Amanda M. Liggett 1/30/04
Current owner: Amanda M. Liggett
903 N. Wayne Street #303
Arlington, VA 22201
Sire: Supremacy’s High Time (CH Abelarm Supremacy x Best Odds)
Dam: Callaway’s Brilliant (CH Will Shriver x CH Gold Treat)
Show Record: 10/15/04 ASHB Futurity of Michigan, Yearling Open 5th place (6 entries)
10/12/03 ASHB Futurity of Michigan, Weanling Open, 4th place (9 entries)
No offspring are recorded for this horse.
CJ Splash or Genius, #102501, chestnut/white pinto stallion foaled 4/16/1995
originally registered as Flying W Farms Dream Street, name changed 12/9/1996
Breeder: Bob or Fredericka Wagner
Piketon, OH
Ownership History: Bob or Fredericka Wagner 4/16/95 to 9/6/96
Carolyn Crabtree 9/6/96
Current Owner: Carolyn Crabtree
4510 Roosevelt Road
Roseville, OH 43777
Sire: Buckeye Fever (Fizz Bomb x Kissme Kwick)
Dam: Starlet Ridge (Starheart’s King x Wild Country’s Love)
No show record
No offspring recorded for this horse.
fanaberia – Who is looking for info on the Arabian *PARADOKS+? He belongs to my daughter and has since 2000 when he retired from racing. This is a bit freaky!
@ lacibird
I got excited but nope that wouldn’t be him. Your’s is George’s Cowboy and mine is GeorgIES Cowboy
Additional details on him if it helps: he was and likely still is around Ontario, Canada and is a chestnut leopard. Has a Halter ROM, was a Canadian Worlds qualifier… he was a stallion for a number of years and has quite a few (I think) offspring around but has since been gelded and retrained, doing english stuff now! He’d be… probably 15 or so now?
So again, any info on ApHC Georgies Cowboy specifically ownership would be much appreciated.
ApHC info for Joe Bar Star
Reg # is 498942. Foaled 04/13/1991 in NEVADA. Still listed as a stallion. Color is Dark Bay or brown with white spots over back and hips.
His sire is JOE BAR TOO (ApHC). Paternal grandsire is JOE BAR (ApHC) and paternal granddam is WALBAR REDWING HART.
HIs dam is PRATT PEPPER GIRL (ApHC). Maternal grandsire is BOX M’S REDPEPPER (ApHC) and maternal granddam is PRATTS S STAR IM (ApHC).
He has 2 points in Senior Reining (although it could have occured in Junior Reining as ApHC changes everything to Senior once the horse is over 6 and has become a Senior horse).
Thank you Mrs P. Another case of no transfer to the new owner.
Georgies Cowboy
Reg #541562 foaled 06/08/1995 in CANADA. Listed as a Gelding
His sire is NORTHERN COWBOY (QH). Paternal grandsire is AN OBVIOUS COWBOY (QH) and Paternal granddam is BICO PRINCESS (QH).
His dam is MISS JAGUARS GOLD (ApHC). Maternal grandsire is THE GOLDEN PRINCE (ApHC) and maternal granddam is MISS JAGUAR (QH).
He has points in
Non-Pro Halter Geldings 0.5
Open Aged Stallions 18.5
Open Most Colorful at Halter 7.5
List Amy Campbell of Canada the current owner (as of 10/26/2004). Sorry no city or other info.
Would anyone be able to look up the breeder of Kelly Oak – 1986 palomino AQHA gelding. He was in our family from about 8-23 and was the most perfect horse anyone could ask for. I’m sure some of it had to do with his early training … we’d love to find them and see if they are still breeding/training.
Ridingspots,
WOW. Well, I didn’t expect to meet someone who actually was affiliated with the relatives of my fella! I created a pedigree for him on allbreedpedigree.com and it filled out pretty nicely!
I also sent you a LONG e-mail with lots of info on Joe Bar Star to see if anything matched up!
Did he have any offspring? Does ApHC disclose that?
Kings Poco Bonanza…ABRA # P-14813
IBHA # P-25696
I hope these numbers help???
thanks for checking
Thanks-you ridingspots for the info on Montes Li!!!
@turn-n-burn82com, imocr, Mrs P: THANKS ! I really appreciate your help.
My Gachema Gefrane daughter is a beautiful varnish red roan mare, her mother was an unregistered Appaloosa. Since I read so much about HYPP, I try to get as much information about my horses pedigree as I can, but I think, I just have to ask my vet for a HYPP test to be on the safe side. *deepsigh* (Sorry for any grammatical or other faults – my englisch is not that good when it comes to writing.)
btw:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj221/Galu_2002/DSCF4570.jpg (my mare and I in a western pleasure class)
sweetlillena,
I wonder if her papers didn’t go with her. The chances of a dealer finding a home for a horse like her, pretty slim. I wasn’t given any information to who the dealer was/is, I do have a hunch.
THANK YOU for your time. Just confirmed what I thought.
Thanks again, it is nice to have some sort of closure.
Thanks to a link I found on this site I was able to find info on my ottb rescue, thank you so much. Can anyone tell me what a ‘ black-type winner’ is?
Grullotobi: Thanks for the info on my Paint’s sire! Yes, he is a wonderful horse & has gaits that made my dressage trainer gasp (and she primarily rides upper level WBs & TBs). He’s got loads of personality & WILL take advantage of you if he can, but he’s never malicious. He’s a great horse!
best ever.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/grd/1449485528.html
not only are they riding “awesome family or lesson horse” with side reins, they also put photos in the ad to prove it. awesome! i wonder where i can sign my kid up for lessons with this trainer?
@mrs p: again, thank you for information. As far as I know, neither Gachema Gefrane nor the dam of my mare have shown any signs of HYPP – I just want to be on the safe side, you`ll never know… Vaccinations on my two horses are due, so the vet has to come out anyway (here in Germany a horse owner isn`t allowed to do this by himself) – I`ll ask her for the conditions of HYPP testing.
Can someone look up the Arabian ( could possibly by Half Arabian, but think she’s a purebred ) bay mare named “Fadazzle”. Would most likely be deceased now, foaled back in the 70′s maybe.
@ ridingspots
On Features Gold did they happen to mention who the current registered owner was? I am interested in buying him back for retirement if he is still around.
Lisam:
LG Sunflower
LG Blossom (it may be LG Appleblossom)
Friend Elizabeth
LG Dandelion
LG Apple Blossom is a 2001 chestnut pinto mare owned by Judith A Smith or Cayla J. Schaffer. She is by D.J.S. Gamblers Choice and out of Friend Elizabeth. No descendants and still has only temp papers (expired)
LG Sunflower is a 2000 chestnut pinto mare owned by Yvonne Jones. She is by KT Little Bonnzai and out of Just Lyke Lucy. No descendants. Only has temp papers (expired)
LG Sunflower: 2001 buckskin stallion owned by Lisa Gaughran. He is by Lauralees Xanadu Dude and out of Cinnamon’s Painted Princess. Also has expired temp papers.
Friend Elizabeth: 1993 chestnut mare owned by Lisa Gaughran. She is by Estates Miniatures El Don De’ and out of East Livin’s Mischief. One descendant: LS Apple Blossom. She is permamnent at 36.5″. Does not show deceased on her page.
Anything else?
Thanks GrulloTobi!! I think BARBIES DREAM QH PALOMINO MARE 02/01/1983 is the horse Im looking for. Can you (or someone else) pull up more info for me?
Thanks!
pegasus; someone on the thread posted wanting his info. It was on the first 3 pages of comments, I believe.
pegasus- it was astride on this blog.
November 2, 2009 at 3:11 pm was the posting time.
Sounds like a very cool horse!
Pegasus:
Here is the original message that was posted for information on Paradoks:
“astride says:
November 2, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Another curious Arab rider. I’d love to know who owned Paradoks, Bay 1993 Gelding, while he was racing. Probably in the 1995-1998 range.”
It doesn’t look too scary!
To: ItsAlwaysSomething
You can contact the AHA directly and if you give them the name of the horse, they will look it up and give you the current owner information. I have done this a couple times in the past. They were always very helpful!
http://www.haflingerhorse.com
turn-n-burn82com says:
November 3, 2009 at 7:27 am
snow falling ~ I could not locate and ebs lady in AQHA’s database. there is a ebs lady beggar but no ebs lady … is she a QH?
Thank you for looking!
Maybe her name is Ebbs Lady? I can’t remember if there’s one b or two. Her mom’s name was Champ N Lady and her Father was Eb(b?)s JJ. That’s all I can remember on her side.
Turn-n-burn82, also, forgot to answer your question. I DO believe she is AQHA, though I remember seeing several horses spotted through her pedigree with (TB) behind them, though she doesn’t have that behind hers. It’s amazing I can remember all this, but not what I did last week. LOL! Thank you again!
She Bee Dee Chip:
grullotobi, thanks so much! I was actually the “9 yr old” mentioned in the sale add. Except, now I’m 15 lol. No info on where she is now? She was a great first lease. I changed barns once her lease was up so I wasn’t sure what happened to her.
I am looking for an AQHA gelding by the name of “Truly A Pocos Doc.” I sold him to a gal on Whidbey Island and asked that I get first right or refusal if she needs to sell, or will happily buy him back if she got in that position. I heard he has been sold. Would like to track him down to atleast make sure he is in good hands. Any help in greatly appreciated! Thanks to all!
Can anyone look up my first App. gelding?? JW Sunglows Spot
This is great! I’m looking for any info on AQHA Mr Silky Leo. Sire was Silky Delmark. I don’t know the dam.
Nickeys & Hopsey –
I’ve been away from the computer all day…..Nickeys – thanks for the tips. I did actually speak to the JC on the phone twice while they were working on my ID and I did try using a black light, though the black light wasn’t very bright so it didn’t work that well. Classy is my first horse and I’m just curious about her history, but in the end, it doesn’t change anything – she has a forever home with me! I’m so glad you rescued your boy and were able to find out about him – that’s so neat! Hopsey – thanks for trying to play around with it! I’ve probably ran over 100 tattoos trying to find one that was local to match – those last two numbers are so faded. I think I’ll send in the S25979 with her photo and see if it’s a match – nothing to lose! If anyone else has an idea of what those last two numbers are – feel free to post! Thanks
Saddlebred question… asbrider, odinnsmeyjar, or mand_asbfan, can you help?
Out of sheer sentiment, I’d like to know about Prim Style, 1968 stallion. I know his pedigree, but I’d like to know his progeny and where they are, about his show record, his owners. And if he is by some miracle still alive, I’d like to know where he is.
And, if anyone should be with the Arapahoe Hunt (Denver area), I’d like to know if the big buckskin, Brigadoon, is still there. If he isn’t, where’d he go? We raised him from a weanling.
Thanks, big time. I’ve been missing Lou (Prim Style) big time for the past 36 years… I was his groom that year. And I fret about Doon.
Thanks again,
Ruthie
Still no hits on my guy:( anyone?
Ivalmas-LTs Gold Freckle is now listed on allbreed. Might have a buck or two left to check ownership if you want it.
Surprisewind- Kelly Oak is shown to have been bred by Lynn Campion of Hailey Idaho. Hope that helps.
Oops, sorry about the last one…The name is JW Sunglows Flash ApHC
I’d give the excuse that it’s Monday, but it’s Tuesday. I guess it’s been a long day. Thanks again…
WarPony, I found a gelding for sale out of Pal’s Bay Penny: http://www.horsefinders.com/horse-for-sale-Tennessee%20Walker-in-MI_65913_20.html
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(you may have seen this ad already, I just tried searching google
Here’s some more info on Sun Ups Kashi:
Sire: Nimbe Bee Jack
Dam:
Color: dun turning grey
Markings: star with connected stripe and whorl above face marking going left-looks like an “e”
If anyone had AQHA credit left, I’d be so thankful if you can help me find him!
Id love to know more about my horse
Reg name ‘shezausamaid’ Butler
registered appy gelding
red roan
approx 7-8 y.o.
when I bought him the previous owner said she’d hook me up w/ his papers but that fell thru.
I bought him in Spanaway.
thanks in advance
Hey regalperformance, if you’re still reading this, thanks for searching. I made a typo in my original post…it’s SANDSomandys Badger (not Sandomandys Badger). Agh. But yes, he is AQHA registered. I have his papers in my hand right here…what I don’t have is any contact info for the last person listed as owner.
Although if what fhotd says is true, the AQHA might already think he’s “dead”…seeing as he was born in June, 1984. <XD
mrs p and fuglies rock. That is her, Foxy lady bar 00086953 the birthdate jives with how old I think she is. She probably looked black as a baby but she is now a dark grey almost black a very weird color. Can you get anymore info on past owners I would like to transfer into my name thanks mrs p
amlstwt – I looked up your horse and he is still registered under your name. Here’s more info:
STARDUST’S TIME WILL TELL Registry Records Gelding 5/10/2003
Registration #: 113646
Color: CHESTNUT
Blood/DNA: N/2004
FAINT STAR, WHITE.
Owner:
AMANDA M. LIGGETT
(removed your address)
Breeder:
WILLARD MCRAE OR VICKIE WINANS
FENTON, MI
Ownership History
NAME FROM TO
AMANDA M. LIGGETT Jan 30th, 2004 –
RAY &/OR MARGO KNABUSCH May 10th, 2003 Jan 30th, 2004
STARDUST’S TIME WILL TELL
CHESTNUT G
5/10/2003 SUPREMACY’S HIGH TIME
CHESTNUT S
CALLAWAY’S BRILLIANT
CHESTNUT M
2/10/1989
STARDUST’S TIME WILL TELL is the sire of the following horses:
REG NUM HORSE NAME FOAL DATE COLOR SEX BRED WITH DAM
There are no offspring listed for this horse
COMPETITION RECORDS
Based on Competition Records Received, Posted, and Verified as of November 2nd, 2009
SHOW DATE REGION SHOW NAME CLASS NUMBER PLACE WINNINGS GN PRIZE
EARNINGS RIDER PERFORMANCE
POINTS NATIONAL
PLEASURE
POINTS
Oct 15, 2004 8 ASHB Futurity Of Michigan YEARLING OPEN 6 05 $40.95 – AMANDA LIGGETT – -
Oct 12, 2003 8 ASHB Futurity Of Michigan WEANLING OPEN 9 04 $78.80 – PAMELA SPECHT
distancerider – your horse’s sire does not have a performance record but here is the record for his sire, Buckeye Fever:
COMPETITION RECORDS
Based on Competition Records Received, Posted, and Verified as of November 2nd, 2009
SHOW DATE REGION SHOW NAME CLASS NUMBER PLACE WINNINGS GN PRIZE
EARNINGS RIDER PERFORMANCE
POINTS NATIONAL
PLEASURE
POINTS
Jun 19, 1985 8 Youngstown Charity FINE HARNESS 3 YEAR OLD 5 05 $15.00 – JEFFREY BOLTE – -
Fantasia – thanks so much for looking that up – it looks like she is still registered in my mom’s name…. that doesn’t give me very fuzzy feelings
Arabian Data Source . . . Happy to do lookups and research! Email me at horsegirl9@cox.net.
I was wondering if anyone knows anything about a horse called Kibbler’s Black Hawke.
I own a paint that is the paternal grandson of this horse. I’ve found numerous people advertising that their horses are offspring of Kibbler’s Black Hawke, but I haven’t found anything on him like show records or accomplishments.
Could anyone help me with this?
This is another site useful for getting information on Standardbreds: http://www.pedigreeguru.com/
A seven day trial is totally free and you can get get race history, earnings, offspring ect ect.
Finally got around to registering tho I’ve been reading for months — great blog! I’ve been reading all the requests on this post to see if anyone was looking for info on any horses I know, but haven’t seen any.
I don’t think AHA automatically lists a horse as dead at 25, at least not now. I’m still logging recreational hours on my gelding and he’s 26; they haven’t tried to convince me he’s died yet.
Speaking of Arabs, can anyone look up 2? AK Sachi-Khan or Vanitys Debut. Sachi was born in ’80 and Debut in ’83. Curious if they’re still around. I sold them as youngsters and know both did well for a bit but have lost touch. Thanks.
Oooh! Thankyou also to crissy… I just now got around to reading all the comments… Thanks for all the info and I hope my girl is in good hands:)
Oooh! Thankyou also to crissy… I just now got around to reading all the comments… Thanks for all the info and I hope my girl is in good hands:)
Oooh! Thankyou also to crissy… I just now got around to reading all the comments… Thanks for all the info and I hope my girl is in good hands:)
Thanks Sweetlillena for looking. We had that horse when I was a kid, I hope he’s got a good home somewhere.
If this is still going, I’m also looking for a 1986 Thoroughbred mare named Colorful Run, and if anyone can get Morgan Horse info I’m looking for Season’s Major RazMaTaz (may be spelled Season’s Major Raz Ma Taz). He was born in 1997ish, a son of Black River Major.
Good morning Fugs. OT – Someone is looking for you: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AiIfhpLqx1bBf0jID21_jQucDH1G;_ylv=3?qid=20091103222813AAPZKnN
I’m looking for a breeding stock APHA mare. The only information I have is her dams name which is Pistolslittlechic, and her foaling year which was 2003. She is a black solid and her registered name has Stardust in it, that’s all I know. I just want to know if she is out there, where she might be now, and doing OK. Any information would be greatly appreciated!
Lil Liberty Belle
Foaled: Tuesday, June 07, 1994
Color: BLACK
Pattern: TOBIANO
Sex: MARE
Sire: HANKS BUDDY
Dam: LIL LIBERTY B BAR (QH)
Owner: STROHACKER, BARRY B
Breeder: ERICKSON, NEIL & VICKI
Registration Information
Reg.Status: Alive Genetic Typed: No
Reg. Date: Tuesday, January 03, 1995 Stallion Listed: No
How Bred: Pasture Bred Twin: No
Contact Information
Owner: STROHACKER, BARRY B Breeder: ERICKSON, NEIL & VICKI
RR 1 BOX 2450 352 NOCKENUT RD
PORUM OK 74455-9714 SEGUIN TX 78155-8296
Progeny Records
Total Horses 1 Tobianos 1 Point Earners 0 Totals Points 0 PAC Earners 0 Totals Credits 0
Deceased 0 Overos 0 Halter Point Earners 0 Halter Point 0 PAC Halter Earners 0 Halter Credits 0
Stallions 1 Toveros 0 Performance Point Earners 0 Performance Points 0 PAC Performance Earners 0 Performance Credits 0
Recorded Ownership History
Type Date of Ownership Owner Name City, ST
TRANSFER Jan 3, 1996 STROHACKER, BARRY B PORUM, OKLAHOMA
ORG OWNER Jun 7, 1994 ERICKSON, NEIL & VICKI SEGUIN, TEXAS
Mares 0 Solids 0 Racing Point Earners 0 Racing Points 0
Geldings 0 Breeder’s Trust Nominations 0
1 CHESTNUT
Horse Name Foal Year Color Pattern Sex Total Pts./Crdts. Halter Perf. Race BT Foals
SIR NOBLE CHARGER 2000 CHESTNUT TOBIANO STALLION
Nobody here has access to the TWHBEA iPEDS? If someone has access I’d love to find out if The Town Painter has a show or performance record, and if any of his progeny have performance records.
I was hoping someone could look up two appaloosas for me? One was my first horse Popeye’s Pride, foaled 1980. I was shocked to see someone had put her on allbreedpedigree! The second was her surprise love child that showed up a month later. Sir Star born April 1, 1986. I know there was atleast one foal from him in existence. I still kick myself for selling Star but a young first time horseowner on a limited budget has to make those choices.
Thank You!
For your TB’s – you can also look/update at http://www.pedigreequery.com.
American Soldier: http://www.pedigreequery.com/american+soldier
I’m interested in buying this guy, just my size… but, what’s wrong with him? I can’t put my finger on it and would like some advice. [img]http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=231273#[/img]
oops this guy i mean… http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=231273#
I like this one too.. http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=229673#
TxMiniatureHorse, thanks!
How about:
A.J.’s Cocoa Puff
LG Tiger Lily (or Tiger Lilly)
LG Mighty Hercules
It’s so frustrating to find that people I sold these minis to never had them transferred into their own names, or if they did, they people they sold the horses to didn’t transfer them.
Sorry if someone has already answered these:
1/2 arab Northern Sundance born 4-14-70, presumed deceased (meaning no one turned in a death date after 30 yrs); no breeder or owners listed; sire Sig; dam Kandy, a grade mare. Lack of info on the older 1/2 arabs is common because AHA doesn’t have the old IAHA info in the computer/DataSource.
LHR MS Skyward born 8-30-80, not listed as deceased, last recorded owner Kimberly H Littrell on 10-10-98, Loganville GA.
Paradoks was bred by Khrenooe Horse Stud; sold to A I Iarov 10-4-96; sold to Cassandra L Ingles 1-24-2000.
Bey Luvly: There is no horse listed under this spelling. I did a partial search on Bey Luv & the only horse that came up was Bey Luvali born 5-4-98. There were no horses under the spelling of Bay Luvly. I also tried the spelling Luvely.
If anyone has arab pedigree lookups, feel free to email me privately at dmchapek at hotmail dot com. I don’t have time to read through all the comments to find the arab questions.
TRM Found the horse you are looking for!
2003 Black Solid Mare named Kings Stardust Chic out of Pistolslittlechic by KINGS QUANAH
heres some info on her She was born and bred here in TN where i live!!! COOL
Foaled: Saturday, May 10, 2003
Color: BLACK
Pattern: SOLID
Sex: MARE
Sire: KINGS QUANAH
Dam: PISTOLSLITTLECHIC
Owner: MELTON, DEANNA
Breeder: MELTON, DEANNA
Registration Information
Reg.Status: Alive Genetic Typed: No
Reg. Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 Stallion Listed: No
How Bred: Hand Bred Twin: No
Contact Information
Owner: MELTON, DEANNA Breeder: MELTON, DEANNA
134 LAKE LN 134 LAKE LN
COOKEVILLE TN 38506-7936 COOKEVILLE TN 38506-7936
OWNERSHIP HISTORY
Recorded Ownership History
Type Date of Ownership Owner Name City, ST
ORG OWNER May 10, 2003 MELTON, DEANNA COOKEVILLE, TENNESSEE
FULL SIBLINGS
Full Brothers and Sisters
Horse Name Foal Year Color Pattern Sex Total Pts./Crdts. Halter Perf. Race BT Foals
KINGS FOXY CHIC 2002 CHESTNUT SOLID MARE 0
wenindoubt, Popeye’s Pride is a mare I took lessons on for years! I last saw her in Nov 08 and she was happy, healthy, and retired. Her current owner is Deb Parsons of Blue Ribbon Ranch in Marshfield, WI. If you google it you can get Deb’s phone number.
UPDATE SUMMARY
These are the horses we still need information on as of Wednesday morning. Some of these MAY be answered, I skimmed through, so it’s not perfect but here you go. In most cases, people want to know the current ownership. I tried to specify if it was otherwise but again this is not going to be perfect.
Quarter Horses
Awesome Dusty Rider
Tantoo Boo
Barbie’s Dream
Steppers Quicksand
Jim Mac Too
Rock a Bye Barney
Celestial Moon Rocket (not sure on breed but guessing Rocket Bar bred QH)
Lts Gold Freckle
Scats Rowdy Miss
Truly a Pocos Doc
Mr Silky Leo
SANDSomandys Badger
Appies
My-T Chinook
Im The Dream – HYPP status requested
JW Sunglows Flash
Shezausamaid
Popeyes Pride
Sir Star
Haflinger
Aficionado
Paints
Kibbler’s Black Hawke – performance record?
Arabians
Fadazzle
AK Sachi-Khan
Vanitys Debut
Did I see that someone had ABRA access? Is there any way to find the ABRA show record of Miss Dusty Devil, AQHA/ABRA? I am her retirement home and would love to have her full record.
knightwatch says:
@ ridingspots
On Features Gold did they happen to mention who the current registered owner was? I am interested in buying him back for retirement if he is still around.
Sorry, the ApHC doesn’t include owner info on the 10 free pedigrees I get each month. I see they are changing their online info system but I’ve had good luck in the past with just calling them and asking questions about a particular horse. The ApHC # is (208)882-5578. Good luck!
Fadazzle
Horse Name FADAZZLE
Registry AHR
Registry # 165756
Foal Date 30-APR-77
Gender M
Color CHESTNUT
Current Recorded Owner Not on record.
No show record.
AK Sachi-Khan
Horse Name AK SACHI-KHAN
Registry IAHA
Registry # 203517
Foal Date
Gender
Color
Current Recorded Owner Not on record.
No show record. Wow, AHA has nothing on this horse!
Vanitys Debut
Horse Name VANITYS DEBUT
Registry IAHA
Registry # 230886
Foal Date 31-MAR-83
Gender M
Color GREY
Current Recorded Owner RANDALL, AMBER F
No show record here either.
StPetersGal: You must have worked at Singing Hills when they owned Prim Style. I remember him well. Blacklaw’s sold him to Lou Teater in 1978. He has 75 registered foals, the last one was in 1988.
Butlersmom says:
Id love to know more about my horse
Reg name ’shezausamaid’ Butler
registered appy gelding
red roan
approx 7-8 y.o.
when I bought him the previous owner said she’d hook me up w/ his papers but that fell thru.
I bought him in Spanaway.
thanks in advance
Sheza USA Maid
Foaled 3/6/02
Gelding
Chestnut roan
I had to put spaces in between the words but the description seems to match your gelding. While researching his dam, I actually came across your horse’s pedigree already online:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=SHEZA+USA+MAID&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l=
Sired by Maid’s Dream who died in 2006 (colic if I remember correctly). Maid’s Dream was a Reserve World Champion and sired many World Champions. He was the going thing for Appaloosa halter sires until he died. He was owned by Dal Porto Ranch and is still up on their site, which includes an extended pedigree.
http://www.dalportoranch.com/maids_dream.htm
Your gelding’s dam is Sheza Rockin Affair by Rock on Zip.
You have a VERY well bred horse! I can’t believe the gal didn’t give you his papers!
montesli
JW Sunglows Flash
ApHC# 363755
Foaled 4/14/82
Blue roan, white with spots over entire body (ApHC speak for black leopard)
His sire, Sunglows Sundance, is online at http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sunglows+sundance
Sunglows Sundance looks to be a linebred Money Creek horse (father-daughter mating) crossed on a good foundation horse going to Toby I and Buttons B.
His dam’s name is Thunderbird Girl but the rest of her pedigree is “unknown” on the ApHC site. That does not mean it really is unknown as I’ve noticed with many older pedigrees, they are unfinished on the site. I have looked up horses that my family has owned that we have papers for and know the extended pedigrees on and the ApHC has all or part listed as unknown on the site.
The ApHC now gives members the ability to look up more detailed info like points and owners but the list of options includes a $ amount and you must have paid ahead to get that info, which I haven’t. The only thing I get for “free” with my membership is pedigrees and basic info like name, #, foal date and color.
I hope this helps
Thank you Cowgirlzrule, I will see if I can get any information from them.
wenindoubt says:
November 4, 2009 at 8:11 am
I was hoping someone could look up two appaloosas for me? One was my first horse Popeye’s Pride, foaled 1980. I was shocked to see someone had put her on allbreedpedigree! The second was her surprise love child that showed up a month later. Sir Star born April 1, 1986. I know there was atleast one foal from him in existence. I still kick myself for selling Star but a young first time horseowner on a limited budget has to make those choices.
Thank You!
I don’t know if you saw on allbreed but your mare also produced Straws Mighty Magnum, who is a horse I have long admired in the Appaloosa Journal! I copied their writeup on him onto here so you can look him up if you’re interested. There are a total of three foals listed for Popeyes Pride on allbreed but Sir Star is not on there.
Color: cham
Height: gold blkt 15.3H
Blanket, Star , left hind sock
Bronze & Silver Medallion, Multiple ROM earner, Superior in Heading and Heeling & Hunter In Hand, ApHC Champion Horse, NBHA World Championship Qualifier. Holds over 200 ApHC & ACAAP points in 8 events! Rare colored, all-around stallion! Visit http://www.strawsmightymagnum.com for more pictures and information
I am looking for any babies from my APHA mare, Dudes Cupid Prize. . .would love to know where they are. Thanks!
Grullotobi, thanks for that info on Caytoe!
2794337 CAYTOES PRIDE CHESTNUT GELDING 03/01/1989 MS
I’m still in need of his pedigree. Also interested in breeder and current owner. Thanks!
This is a long shot but does anyone know of any offspring from my old Appaloosa mare, Docs Frosti Miss. I imagine most would be located in the northwest but who really knows?! I just put her down last week at the age of 26. I only owned her for a few years but fell in love with her immediately. She was the sweetest old lady!
Docs Frosti Miss was a solid chestnut and sired by the AQHA, Docs Jack Frost (by Doc Bar), which made her a 1/2 sister to the barrel horse sire, Sun Frost. I don’t think many Appaloosas were bred to Docs Jack Frost. I know that my “Frosti” had a leopard full brother a year younger who was exported to ? as a stallion.
Frosti’s dam was an Appaloosa named Pondie Rosa. Pondie Rosa was a 1970 daughter of Candys Pondie. Pondie Rosa was a 2x Canadian National Champion and went on to make quite a name for herself in reining and cutting in the northwest.
I would love to find a daughter or granddaughter of Frosti that I could purchase. Any info about any of her offspring would be great, even if not for sale! I know she was bred to a couple Prince Plaudit sons/grandsons if that helps. Also info about who trained her would be nice. She was a good kids horse and acted like she was really well broke at one time. I heard that she was quite the cow horse in her day.
Like I said, this is a long shot but I would love it if this turned up something for me! I miss my old lady!
LORI (hopefully I did my bold HTML right)
I bred Freckle. I used up my bucks this month, and my moms checking on the horses. Please, if you could look up his info, I would appreciate it. Thanks!
I am looking for info on a couple of Paints I used to own, way back in the day. There names are Sires Painted Power and Brandys Bar Image. Brandy was a sorrel and white mare, and Trey (Sire Painted Powers barn name) is a bay and white gelding. Last known info was that Brandy was in Florida and Trey was in Pennsylvania.
One more, a lesson horse I used to ride was Bar Dudes Jewell, and I would love to have any info on any of these horses I used to ride in lessons growing up.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
Dudes Cupid Prize
Progeny
IMAGRANDVERSARYLADY 2002 SORREL SOLID MARE
Ownership info
Foaled: Saturday, January 05, 2002
Color: SORREL
Pattern: SOLID
Sex: MARE
Sire: A GRANDE DUKE
Dam: DUDES CUPID PRIZE
Owner: PETERSEN, MICHAEL D
Breeder: HUNTLEY, SAMANTHA & SARAH
Recorded Ownership History
Type Date of Ownership Owner Name City, ST
TRANSFER Jul 1, 2003 PETERSEN, MICHAEL D ELIZABETH, COLORADO
ORG OWNER Jan 5, 2002 HUNTLEY, SAMANTHA & SARAH ELIZABETH, COLORADO
current owner
PETERSEN, MICHAEL D
655 MADRID CT
ELIZABETH CO 80107-9030
Current owner of Dudes Cupid Prize
: MCGRAW, ELIZA
5403 CAROLINA PL NW
WASHINGTON DC 20016-2525
Ridingspots, thank-you for all the info on JW Sunglows Flash! I had always wondered if he went way back to Sundance, and I see that he does. He was an awesome horse, that I had to put down at the age of 15, due to degenerative joint disease. I still miss him, but my new App., Montes Li, is a close second to him. Not a true black/white leopard, but almost a near-leopard now. Thanks again…
How about:
A.J.’s Cocoa Puff
LG Tiger Lily (or Tiger Lilly)
LG Mighty Hercules
It’s so frustrating to find that people I sold these minis to never had them transferred into their own names, or if they did, they people they sold the horses to didn’t transfer them.
I understand completely! I “own” far more horses than those that live on this farm!
A.J.”s Cocoa Puffs: 1998 sorrel stallion owned by Michelle or Katie Fletcher. No descendants. Expired temp papers.
LG Tiger Lily: grey 2000 mare owned by Thomas or Jennifer Hazeltine-Perrigo. Expired temp papers.
LG Mighty Hercules: 1998 chestnut stallion owned by Lisa Gaughran. Permament at 35″.
Anyone know a Penni Andrews?
This blog inspired me to try to track down my horse’s registration papers (we bought him from someone who said she had his papers and she didn’t – I knew when we left the premises with a promise they’d be mailed that we would never see them from her). I contacted PtHA and they said he is registered (they had a picture, the names and sires matched, DOB and state of birth). She gave me the name of the owner BEFORE the person we bought him from. This person was Penni Andrews who may be from Rathdrum Idaho or perhaps Spirit Lake ID, Blanchard ID, or Spokane WA – or somewhere else in the vicinity. Anyone know? The horse is question is a TWH paint cross. I’ve never had “papers” issues before – my other two horses are Arabians that I’ve had forever….
Originally posted a couple of days ago…Still looking for info on two AQHA horses. (Fugs has overlooked my request when she has done the “still need info” lists.)
I am looking for Impressive Easy Jack (1991 stallion – AQHA 3031451) and Vanity Blair (1984 mare – AQHA 2432636). I own both, and I have their papers (haven’t transferred them to my name though).
I would love to find out any info on their past lives: show records, offspring, siblings, etc. Thank you!
My Jaw is being scraped up off the floor right now. I just got off the phone with the woman who owns my now 29 year old first horse. It was emotional and wonderful and I am so appreciative of this moment. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Not only is she alive and well, holy crap it turns out she has become something amazing and special to many more people than just me. Who would have ever thought the horse I bought out of the back of a dairy farm, crusted in manure, ridden down the road in a hackamore and a pony saddle would become a medallion producer, a National and World top 3 producer a multiple ROM producer and the list goes on. She has grandbabies!!! and they are gorgeous! and Talented!
So can anyone help me find Star? I guess this means he kinda matters now….
WOW.
Wenindoubt, that is WONDERFUL! I’m so happy for you. How exciting that she is still alive and her life has been so terrific. Is she far away or is a visit a possibility?
CassiaDawn says:
November 3, 2009 at 7:44 pm
“WarPony, I found a gelding for sale out of Pal’s Bay Penny: http://www.horsefinders.com/horse-for-sale-Tennessee%20Walker-in-MI_65913_20.html
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(you may have seen this ad already, I just tried searching google
Oh, wow! Well, she had babies after I had her, then! Since she’d only had two fillies before I got her if she has a boy out there that means she had at least one more. Thanks! I google her every 6 months or so. This is the first time I have seen anything other then places where I mentioned her.
Fugs talk about validation of your life’s work huh? Patty (popeye’s pride) is living in Marshfield WI. She is about an hour away from my parents place and they are planning on going to visit her! When I get up there next summer, I plan to go see her too. I can tell you that what I feel right now is Relief, pur unadulterated Relief! She is loved, she is wanted and she is living out her old age. What more can any of us hope for in the lives of the horses that have touched our lives, really? Her owner was quite excited to find out I have an entire album of pictures of her. She was my teenaged, do everything horse, stubborn strong willed and wonderful. So there is a half brother to Straws Mighty Magnum floating around somewhere….oy….I worry about him. here is a couple pictures of him:
and here is me and Patty doing wht teenaged girls with horses do best..Look Geeky!
wenindoubt says:
“Fugs talk about validation of your life’s work huh? Patty (popeye’s pride) is living in Marshfield WI. She is about an hour away from my parents place and they are planning on going to visit her! When I get up there next summer, I plan to go see her too. I can tell you that what I feel right now is Relief, pur unadulterated Relief! She is loved, she is wanted and she is living out her old age. What more can any of us hope for in the lives of the horses that have touched our lives, really? Her owner was quite excited to find out I have an entire album of pictures of her. She was my teenaged, do everything horse, stubborn strong willed and wonderful. So there is a half brother to Straws Mighty Magnum floating around somewhere….oy….I worry about him. here is a couple pictures of him:”
I am so excited for you, wenindoubt!!! Sir Star is a beautiful foal! I just got off the phone with Wendy at the ApHC and unfortunately Sir Star is still registered to his breeder, which I imagine is you? Mona M. in Wisconsin? From now on, Straws Mighty Magnum will be a special horse to me! I’ve always liked him but now he’s part of a wonderful story! I wish you luck in reconnecting with Patty next summer!
I was wondering if any one could look up if my horse has any siblings that are still living.
This is an AQHA records request.
Registered Name: MayBouquetBonanza
AQHA # 1718147
Sire: Mr Bob Bonanza # 463372
Dam: Conela # 383677
I’m really interested in full siblings but any half siblings on either side would be wonderful also.
The reason for the request is because my mare is 28 years old and I love her build so i’m wondering if any others of her bloodlines are similar so I can keep an eye out for them.
Thanks!
I can’t help you on finding siblings, but will be watching for a reply. I bought Mr. Bob Bonanza as a weanling from Bill Moomey in 1967. He was bred to a number of mares in Michigan before going to Oklahoma in the mid ’70′s. I doubt that any of his Michigan offspring are still alive. “Robert” had a wonderful deposition and was an all around good horse.
turn-n-burn82com ~~ Thanks for the information!
American Haflinger Search: http://www.haflingerhorse.com/pedigree/PedigreeVr2Pub.htm
Grullotobi – Thank you SO MUCH for looking up Mac – 0694732 JIM MAC TOO BAY GELDING 01/01/1969 IL.
What can I do myself to find his pedigree?
I am thrilled you looked him up. Thank you so much for taking the trouble!
wenindoubt, I’m so thrilled that you and Patty are ‘reunited’! I know what it’s like to not know where your horse ended up, so happy reunions are something special. I had no idea that Patty had people looking for her lol. She is a great horse.
Thanks, ASBrider!
Did we ever meet? This was when the horses were at Sunwood Farms, with a trainer. Prim Style won the Fall Classic at Eugene, that year. After I quit, the Blacklaws and that trainer parted company; I never found out why. He was a decent trainer, but occasionally drank a bit too much.
Did you ever see the print of Lou by Richard McClean?
http://rogallery.com/Mclean_Richard/mcclean-prim.htm
Thanks again,
Ruthie
Thank you, Fugs, for helping so many people learn the history of their horses or reconnect with ones they lost track of. This is fun! I only have 1 ApHC search left for this month after this flurry of looking up horses!
I am amazed at how many people don’t transfer the papers when they buy a horse. My question is: What can we, as sellers, do about it?
I have sold a handful of registered Appaloosas over the years and a couple are still in my name. They have been resold or the owners moved and I don’t have the current owner’s contact info. I know that especially geldings who aren’t shown on the ApHC circuit really don’t have a much use for papers but when genetic questions come up, it would be nice if all horses came with papers. I was talking with the registration department just last week because a mare I sold last year was bred via shipped semen and the proper paperwork wasn’t filed by the mare owner. According to the ApHC, that’s me! I will assume that she didn’t have a foal this year or they would have transferred her and registered the foal. But who really knows? It’s not that the mare was a junker, either. The lady paid $2500 (which isn’t bad for a solid colored barely 2yr old Appaloosa in this market), paid to ship her across the United States, and apparently bred her to a world champion reining stallion. (Side note here: She told me she was buying her as a reining prospect and I wouldn’t have sold my filly to her if I’d known she would be be BRED as a 2yr old! If she wasn’t so far away, I’d be tempted to go take the mare and make the lady tear up the transfer!) I asked the lady with the registration department if they deal with this issue often and she said it’s a big problem. So, before I wander too far off my topic, this is not just a problem of backyard, poorly bred horses. An Appaloosa I researched for a blog reader, butlersmom, turned out to be a son of Maid’s Dream! A son of a leading sire that didn’t have his papers with him! In fact, all of the horses I looked up for blog readers turned out to be decently to well bred Appaloosas!
So, what are our options? With the ApHC, I believe the buyer has to be a member. A one-year membership is $55 and a transfer is $15. $70 to have your new Appaloosa in your name (unless you’re already a member, in which case it’d cost you just $15) and all you have to do is send in the original papers and a signed transfer (from the last person on the papers). Should the seller offer to purchase the membership for a non-member and send in the papers, membership application, and transfer themselves? That would work to get the horse out of your name but what are the cons to that?
It would work much easier if everyone would just transfer their horses into their names. A horse with current papers is easier to sell (because you own him and the new owner doesn’t have to worry about doing a bunch of footwork to become the “owner”) and generally worth more with papers.
I know one reason many people didn’t hand over the registration papers years ago was because of horse dealers or other people who would put the wrong papers on a horse. I don’t think that’s so much of a problem anymore because of DNA testing in the ApHC.
The answer to my question of how to get people to transfer papers may lie in asking the buyers why they don’t transfer papers or send the papers with the horse when they sell it. The cost of transferring? Laziness? Hiding genetic defects like HYPP? Hiding breed (ie. selling a noncharacteristic Appaloosa as a grade Quarter Horse)? Not actually owning the horse (ie. didn’t finish making the payments or are only leasing)? Or what? The ApHC has no time limit on transferring. So, for example, the lady who bought my filly and bred her without transferring the papers can transfer her at her leisure (ApHC goes by the date on the transfer, not when it is sent in). Theoretically, if she didn’t breed her via shipped semen and have that paperwork to do, she wouldn’t need to transfer her until she wanted to register the foal. Should the breed association put a 30 day limit on transfers and then charge more?
Anyone have ideas on this matter? We can all see how big of a problem it is by this blog!
grullotobi: just to show you the horse you looked up (as a further thank you because I am so thrilled!) http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=851155&l=1790e65922&id=516388092
Celestial Moon Rocket is registered with the AQHA. I would like to find more about her breeding. We know she has some TB lines in her. If I could find out if she’s had any babies that’d be pretty cool. She was either started very young, or worked hard her entire life because at 13 she’s having issues with arthritis.