The Pre-Enumclaw Report!
Nov 01 2009
First of all, for those who are local and want to participate in rescuing horses from this sale, a site has been put together to discuss the topic and post live updates from the auction:
http://auctionhorsesonline.webs.com/
So let’s do an update on last month’s horses – at least the ones we know about that went to blog readers.
309 – Alaska Bowtie (shown). This guy is definitely the Cinderella story of the group. Thanks to a breeder who cared and a blog reader who spent a great deal of personal time making phone calls and making this happen, he was swiftly removed from the kill pen and is now enjoying his let-down time from the track at Polestar Farm. They are working on fixing his long-toed racetrack feet and, after his vacation, he will begin being evaluated for a second career. This is exactly how we would like to see all of them end up. What a shame there are not enough of these homes to go around!
312 – Boston Lady Jewel, registered APHA mare. This big black & white broodmare is already well on her way to her second career. She turned out to be extremely quiet and sensible and as a result has already been started under saddle and is riding at a walk and jog. Her amateur owner plans to put her into professional training in 2010 and take her to the Pinto shows. This particular mare is just a super high quality mare who almost slipped through the cracks. It’s amazing what we are finding out there. I have no doubt she’s going to have a very successful show career. 430, the super friendly big two year old TB filly, is at the same home and will not be doing anything but growing up for awhile. Her owner reports that she likes to put her foot in the water bucket. 
Someone got 318 out. She was not in the kill pen, but I don’t know who that person was. Same with 321.
325 was registered Arabian mare Szizzle. She has completed quarantine and is going home either this weekend or next. Her new owner talked to her old one who confirmed that the mare, and I quote, rides great. She was dumped for having the audacity to get kicked in the pasture and go lame. I love people, they are awesome. Szizzle is stuffing herself with lovely hay and will get a workup by the owner’s vet after she goes to her permanent home.
323 was registered Arabian Seaside Dawn Delight, shown. This lovely mare is safe and is up to date on everything now. She turned out to be a daughter of a U.S. and Canadian National Champion Stallion, EA Echstravagant. She’s only halter broke, but kind, sound and six years old with no issues other than a need for training. Very cute mover! She is currently available to an approved new home as the person who bailed her is having to take several returns from a buyer who has had personal issues, but she is safe until she finds one. She’s in the Bellingham area – email me if you’d like to check her out!
331 was registered Arabian Lady Mayphair. She is sound and in great condition. She was dumped by someone who had only recently purchased her – we heard the whole annoying story. This mare needs a home with someone who will put the training on her to keep her out of future jeopardy. She has decent ground manners and longed nicely both directions. She has completed quarantine and is ready to go. She’d be great if you want a rescue that does not hav a lot of stuff to fix – condition is not an issue here. 413 is at the same home – she’s an early teens Arabian mare, no papers, pretty and sound, who seems to have some training but has not yet been evaluated under saddle. She is also available. E-mail me for info.
334 was young Arabian gelding Bazkheno Devinci. This guy is a doll! Just another who only needs to training. He came down with pneumonia but was quickly put on antibiotics and is recovering well. Purchased by an out of state partnership, they have struck a deal with Cowgirl Spirit to take him on for training and placement. You may recall that Cowgirl Spirit also has Ready Say Go (shown), the $50 stallion who had raced only the previous weekend. He got gelded in the sale yard and has been recuperating. He dropped weight like crazy in his few days at the sale yard and from the stress of gelding, but is currently stuffing himself with timothy hay and alfalfa pellet mush. He has healed well from gelding and is starting to be turned out with other horses, a new experience for him and one that he greatly enjoys! He got new shoes and is basically just hanging out, hoovering up food and enjoying his post-track vacation. Cowgirl Spirit can always use your donations if you’d like to help pack the weight back on this beautiful boy!
405 and her foal are back together and a blog reader tells me her feet have been done and she is getting great care. The foal is for sale (but will not be leaving until January, time to properly wean) and you can e-mail me if you want the contact information.
402 has completed quarantine and is heading off to training in Renton. He is not showing any unsoundness, although his feet are awful and the owner is currently arranging for a farrier who can help him. He knows nothing. Thanks, former owners – you suck!
408, Eeyore, is in foster care and rapidly regaining weight! He will not be sound. He needs a pet home – fortunately he is a big pet with the disposition to be a total pleasure to have around. Please contact Second Chance Ranch if you have one to offer. The tattoo is very hard to read so no ID yet but he’s believed to be 25. 417 is also available – she is an older TB mare, in great condition, sound and has been used for lessons in the past but needs a tune up. 435, the beautiful Private Account mare, is also with SCR and could use a foster home able to put some training on her. She is sound and just needs a job! 439, Ruling Flame, is busy gaining weight and will be evaluated under saddle when he has picked up enough. I think that boy is someone’s old show horse, he just strikes me that way. Very people oriented and carries himself like he is proud of himself! The latter two, shown, are IN LOVE and might be a perfect adoptive pair for someone who needs one quiet broke horse and one project.
461 went home and schmoozed up to his new owner’s husband. She is no fool. She is in her forever home.
And the unfuglybelievable colt I pictured? He got bailed out by a gal in the office. He’s safe. She got the big Appy/draft too.
Now for some good news about this month! Thanks to a tip, this time there are three OTTB’s that avoided the sale. This is not the last you’ll see or hear about these three horses, but I wanted to put them out here because Second Chance Ranch has taken them in and they could use your donations. Any little bit helps. Our hay is finally down to a reasonable price so about $8 buys a bale to feed a horse for several days. And yes, I will be following up on who dumped them – you know I will! I will tell you that I’m pretty sure it’s a repeat offender who has been mentioned on this blog before. The horses are Packed House, Face of Excess and Starryeyedprospect. They are in poor condition and are seeking good, local foster or potentially adoptive homes that are experienced with Thoroughbreds and with rehabbing a thin horse.
I know everybody loves to be part of a “save” but if you have space, please consider fostering or adopting one that is already out. If you can offer training, your help is just invaluable. To me, putting a horse on the right track for a successful life is the ultimate in rescuing. Anybody can fundraise, but the real work begins later. When you take something that is only halter broke and six months later it rides, you REALLY rescued. That’s the most important and kindest thing you can do. If you have the skills, and a place to ride in the winter, please think about making space for a project!
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Thanks for reminding me that a donation doesn’t have to be large to make a difference. Sometimes we get overwhelmed by charities in great need and forget that $5 here and $10 there really can make a difference. You did a great job putting a visual with that reminder by saying that just $8 will buy a bale of hay that will feed a rescued horse for several days. If the 100 or so people who comment on your blog every day each donated that $8 just once, we could feed 53 rescued horses for over 2 weeks or completely cover a month’s worth of hay for 27 of them! That’s a substantial difference for just $8/person! I think most people could skip going out for dinner or do Folgers instead of Starbucks and find that $8. Come on, guys, let’s see how many people we can get to donate that $8 off this blog. Post a comment here after you’ve done it and let’s see what the Fugly fans can do!
We just took in a tb – tattooed will try to get Jocke Club to identify him – about 11-13 years old. Veterinary places him a .5 on the bcs. Been here four days just on lush pasture, hay, began a little food this morning. He is so kind, such a wonderful guy. Sad, sad story. Wonder how he felt as he and a pen mate had to watch as another horse was fed every day. I think that bothers me the most, that they had to stand and watch the other horse being fed. His pen mate (a spotted walking horse) was a 1.
Thanks for doing this and making these rescue efforts more visible.
I would love to donate my time and 20+ years experience, but there are no takers locally. I’ve advertised on a number of websites and in the local free paper… and nothing. Right now, I am not in the position to buy a horse, but I would love to work with one, and I would love to work with a horse to whom I can make a difference.
Okay, I’m awake but pre-coffee. Thanks to Second Chance Rescue for taking in the three OTTBs – great work and a lot of effort by the people involved who diplomatically rerouted these three. The story is on SAFE’s blog, and, as with FOHTD, there’s a wealth of information to be gleaned from these horse’s situations. That new auction log to help people help their horses is a blessing. Hope everything goes good today, at least it will go better.
My extra space is filled. I found a $300 daughter of a Canadian National Champion out of a Padron daughter. She wasn’t a rescue really, as her owner was trying to be very careful who bought her. But even so I was worried. So now she’s at a trainer and doing fine.
FHOTD said…
“And yes, I will be following up on who dumped them – you know I will! I will tell you that I’m pretty sure it’s a repeat offender who has been mentioned on this blog before.”
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Our repeat offender deserves that extra special treatment.
…Get ‘Em!!
I wish I could take on a rescue right now, but I’ve already got a beloved senior horse, a weanling, and an off-track Thoroughbred (who is actually still kind of a rescue, though I didn’t get her at a sale), so I’m booked. Thank you and good luck to everyone who is saving the ponies from the double-decker fate!
Enumclaw auction = MHQ’s wallet spontaneously combusting!
Enumclaw auction = MHQ’s husband blindfolding her, whacking her with a clue bat, and disconnecting internet!
I am/was Bazkheno’s Devinci’s part owner. My most public and heartfelt thanks to Cowgirl Spirit, Aja, Cathy M, Fugly, and the whole group of PNW folks who helped us after the last auction. You help was deeply appreciated. I am so glad we could save him.
Hugs!!
Donna- Good thinking. Small amounts can make a difference. So I took on your challenge- just donated $10, and I’m a poor horseless grad student! The holidays are coming, donations are slow- we all can put $5-10 where our mouth is! Thanks for the happy updates Fugly, glad so many were saved.
Green Knight, do a Google search on Horse Rescue XX (XX being your state) to find the ones nearest you. I’m checking out the one closest to me this week. If they pass my “inspection,” they’ll get my tiny monthly donation, and some of my time. Since we have to move to a cheaper place, at least I’ll be able to keep in touch with horses. And it’ll give me an excuse to keep my tack.
Praying for a miracle,
Ruthie
Good call on the reminder that every little bit counts! I just donated $10 on the SCR site and will be donating another $25 toward the purchase price of those three OTTB’s this morning.
I plan to go to the auction this afternoon… if I’m feeling tough.
OT, but remember the Hedens and the horses they took back packing. I met a lady the other day who had been asked by them to sell them some horses to do the trip. She refused and said they got the horses from an auction near her. She said they did get convicted, but they are appealing.
Wow, glad there were so many that got pulled out! It sounds like there were a lot of quality, usable animals in this batch – were there more than normal, or do they usually just not get rescued?
You’ve got a good point that ‘rescuing’ means rehabbing, training, and placing an animal – everyone loves pulling animals from the kill pen, but that’s only 1% of the job.
*sigh* If only…
Oh, but wait! We don’t care about horses! Why should we care?
*insert grumbles here*
Green Knight, I am in a similar situation (although my experience isn’t as profoundly developed as yours, I’m a re-rider and the gap is considerable). I live on an island and work a six-day-a-week job, so my attempts to support local rescues is not what I would prefer. Most people who have horses on the island are fairly well-to-do and don’t need my help (or are total pirates and I really hesitate to get involved).
Despite the workload, it’s broken up in such a way that it doesn’t produce the income that would allow me to purchase and adequately care for a horse, so again my attempts to be involved more effectively are stymied.
I am going to be off-island for a few days over the next few weeks and am thinking of driving to several of the Western WA rescues if only to see where they are and the general logistics of volunteering some time. And I want to connect with the Enumclaw project in such a way that I’m able to be at the auction to provide assistance on those ghastly first Sundays.
Although my resume seems varied it does involve many jobs that I would consider to be socially conscious and infrastructure of some sort: Military, Fire Service (considerable specialized training in Heavy Rescue, Vehicle Extrication, Wildland Firefighting, Trench Shoring, Hazardous Materials, Emergency Med Tech), a much-loved but poorly paid position in Education working at Calarts, where I graduated, as the Institute Review Advisor. Currently I’m with the Postal Service (what was I thinking, oh well, it proves I can take a beating). Another thing that I do is write art reviews, which is a field even the best of the best can’t make money at – they’re usually faculty somewhere, or had money to begin with.
So some input/critique would be helpful on figuring out what I can do to be most helpful on-site either at the rescues or when Enumclaw happens. I religiously/obsessively follow this blog and now SAFE (auction section), my name is ELIZ on both.
Where do you find hay for $8 a bale? I can only find it for around $14 a bale and I live in Buckley. Please let me know.
Cathy- if someone adopts an Enumclaw (or Woodburn) horse who needs work, I’ll donate a month or two of training as long as owner pays for feed and they’ve been through quarantine.
etasianecho- that choked me up about the 2 horses watching as the other got fed everyday…I will be at the auction today, we usually go every month.Last month was tuff, we left early on.
I am gonna look into small donations as well. I wish we had more land, we could squeeze one more horse in if the circumstances were right…so we’ll see.If anything just secure their winter w/ food and shelter and lots of love.
Okay, wouldn’t the title be POST ENUMCLAW report, or are you sending them back?! Things are bad here in Indiana, I’d rather see people dumping at auction than the starving ones I’ve seen recently. Talk bout a living hell.
StPetersGal: my local rescue keeps volunteers away from anything that might endanger them, which is understandable but frustrating. I don’t want to work in an office. I am selfish enough that if I donate my time, I want to donate it doing something I enjoy – which happens to be handling horses other people don’t like to handle.
Eliz, I hope you find someone who appreciates your assistance. I think we’re being responsible owners by *not* buying horses right now, even if other people manage to keep horses on a similar budget – if you don’t feel that what you earn is enough, then putting it aside is the better alternative.
Can I personally say Bless everyone’s hearts who does rescue and work to rehome unwanted horses??? It’s AMAZING the abuse you actually have to take, and I don’t mean from breeders/previous homes but potential homes! Here’s my story:
My friend, whom I love but would like to shake a bit, purchased a 2 year old unreg’d morgan qh fugly filly. Unknowingly filly was in foal to a donkey… and produced a supercutie mule. Filly is now 3, friend has 2 young daughters and is intimidated by pony who is still not broke, minimally handled but friendly and utd on everything.
I found a suitable horse for FREE for my friend and proceeded to assist her in trying to rehome pony. I placed an ad on our local version of craigslist called kijijji. I was completely honest that the filly is grade, and NOT BROKE. What follows is the actual correspondance between myself and a potential home.
Adoptor:
HI THERE I AM DEFINATELY LOOKING FOR A PONY LIKE THAT AS MY 8 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER IS A HORSE LOVER AND HER BDAY I COMING UP SOON IT WOULD BE A GRET SURPRISE FOR HER IF YOU STILL HAVE IT OF COURSE?????
Me:
You understand that the filly is UNBROKE. She is not a very good horse to have around children as she is quite pushy, although friendly. I would be concerned regarding a safety issue. I don’t think you would be a suitable match.
Thank you very much for your interest.
Adoptor:
how do you know i would be a suitable match???????
my kid are around horses all the time in my presence and they know the diff in when a horse is not broke
dont you tell me what i can do or not
you are very offensif in your answers
i have been around horses since i was 7 and now 53
so kindly be careful on how you answer to people
and after getting a answer like that ..of course i dont want to deal with you
and honestly i hope you get stuck with your horse
maybe you will be more careful on how you talk to people
honestly who do you think you are (god????????????)
have a great freaking day
Me:
And you as well
Adoptor:
le like you that think that they know it all
should stay away from this businesse
i just hope that you cant find anyone or your horse goe to the meat plant
with this said dont you ever get a hold of me again
and i will post a nice reply for you on kijiji
warn people of who you are and what your about
so please use this is a warning dont email back or ill go the cops and file a complaint against you
I think they ment “People like you…”
Yep, sorry for making a safety judgement call, and I should’ve known their history right away through osmosis! What the heck? And I really want to keep my friend’s filly from the meat buyers, that’s why we’re giving her away and screening potential homes… Sorry for trying to do right by the pony.
We are interviewing 3 potential homes, who all have reputable histories and turn out lovely horses! And if you agree with the adoptor, that’s ok, I’m not claiming to be more than I am. Just trying to help. My website is http://www.shimmere.com if you want to check me out.
Again, my hat is off to you who work in adoptions in rescues! You are truly my heros!!!
It is so frustrating on so many levels. A lot of the problems are due to ignorance, wilful ignorance and stupidity. NEVER overestimate the intelligence of 80% of the people involved with horses. We had a woman sign up for riding lessons for her son, age 11. By lesson five he was posting somewhat okay on the lunge line, of course still not holding the reins. His mom said, “We won’t be back again, the stuff you are doing is redundant, we plan to buy him a pony.” Well, they did, and of course it ran away and bucked him off and drug him around, and bit and kicked too, so they sent it to auction. And since it was a Craigslist special for only $150, with very little training, I am sure it went to a kill buyer.
The pony was a POS that should have never been bred. The kid should have stayed on the lunge line for almost a year, so that he had time to put down some muscle memory. And the mom needed a brain transplant. She just would not listen, told me I was a know it all bitch. Well, yes, I did know it all compared to her, and when I found out where the pony went, I was a bitch to her.
I’m going to see what the rescues around here are doing….
Anyone else seen this yet?
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=15177
60 horses/ponies seized in Lewisville, Texas, BCSs all between 1 and 4.
Okay… I’m trying to sell a horse for my friend. She lives in California and the horse lives in Florida with me. I take care of him and ride him and she pays for everything. Now she wants me to give him away for free, and I’m afraid to post an ad online because of the horror stories I’ve heard on here (kill buyers pretending to be families looking for a horse).
How/where can I advertise him to be sure he goes to a good home?
tinker says:
November 1, 2009 at 11:22 am
Where do you find hay for $8 a bale? I can only find it for around $14 a bale and I live in Buckley. Please let me know.
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I just bought Orchid today at King feed (Enumclaw) at $12 a bale and Timothy for $11. I believe alfalfa is going for around $9-$10 a bale. It may be cheaper where Cat lives, but it ain’t worth the drive. These were 2-string bales.
The guys that sell hay off a semi in McKenna on 507 have had alfalfa for 8 a bale.
Well, I missed the auction because I walked into a situation with two starving horses in need of vet care in the morning. Details to come – horses are safe.
Thanks for the spot, Fugly. I’m about to pop over to the forum and start uploading info from tonight, after which I will come back here to catch up on comments (if I’m still awake). Do you mind if I copy the blog for our success stories?
Also, please be aware that the IDs on the 3 TBs are not verified yet, particularly Starryeyedprospect.
Thank you for the tip about the hay, I will have to check it out.
What amazes me is that you can look up those 3 TB’s pedigrees and click on info and get the names of their last owners/stable. It might not be correct, but still interesting to know.
I wish so much I could take on another horse, or at least help more financially. My girl just got diagnosed with EPM, so between the medication and the vet bills my financial contributions are on hold for a while. $5.00 though does go a long though if everyone gave a little, every little bit helps.
http://www.wildponybeast.blogspot.com
I am a great home, but I live in Alaska.
I am mostly done putting weight on a rescue I got last year. I am looking for a safe, sound, potential pony club horse for my daughter. I can’t find anything suitable up here (all either backyard ponies they want $5k for or $12k experienced horses). I just want the perfect horse, really. Safe, sound, trustworthy, schoolmaster type. I am willing to put weight on (good at that, put nearly 300 pounds on my guy), and remind a horse of the basics, but I don’t have the resources to break a newbie, plus I wouldn’t let my daughter on it for years, which defeats the purpose.
Also, I board out, which some rescues don’t like. I am not sure why, but there you have it.
I am willing to offer reasonable rate (even volunteer) training services for rescues and rehoming. Unfortunately I do not have land (I board my horses), but I could work with someone who has land or access to land. I’ve been riding, training, and showing horses for over 20 yrs (mostly Arabs, but have worked with stock horses and thoroughbreds as well), and I can easily provide references. If someone has land but no proper facilities, the boarding barn where I keep my horses is an excellent place. I am tired of feeling like there is no way I can really make a difference, and this blog entry reminded me that I have skills I can at least offer.
I am located in the NW Houston/Cypress area of Houston. If anyone is interested, feel free to contact me. My email is skgserenity@aol.com, and I have a youth-at-risk therapy program with a website @ http://www.equijourneys.com.
Hoping those Enumclaw horses are safe, and that both of your rehab horses are getting better, Cathy!
Shannon
How does a person go about getting one of the horses from the kill buyer? There was a leopard appy they had a pic of, and it said he was broke. From the site you posted.
Also we are probably going to attend the Eugene horse sale next Sunday. Is there a kill buyer there? We are looking to find a couple oldies for trails, and maybe a project horse, or 2, but I dont want to bid up another family.
Does anyone have any info on what horses have been going for, or who to watchout for?
Appyfreak:
Please read the forum on Auction Horses, there is a lot of info there.
The Appy gelding is currently owned by Ron, who is both the auctioneer and kill buyer. You will have to make him an offer that he thinks constitutes a decent profit, probably around $300-400.
I clicked on the auction web site that you listed, it’s frozen, said it’s exceeded it’s bands…something..just thought you’d like to know…I’m so not a techie..obviously!
Anyone out there that would like to put on a ” Trainers Challege ” to help raise awareness of the plight of the unwanted,untrained horses that are flooding the market,or even to alter the idea and try an OTTB challenge,please email me….drew@mnhoovedanimalrescue.org .This program has worked very well for our shelter and we seem to have worked the “bugs” out,I would be happy to help others with similar projects.
Quick Off Topic Question:
I am selling a horse for my barn owner, and get some weird responses about buying him sight unseen. I know to be aware of shipping scams, but how exactly would I get scammed? Here’s an email I got that I’m not sure what to think of:
Hi how are you doing top of the day to you thanks for the mail, sure it will be a grate pleasure to have you do a site check…I live in Pa in the state will you need my address let know..so that you can get your direction to my place…But hope it won’t be a bad idea if let you know little about me…as I also will prefer to sell my livestock to a good home where live stocks are valued more. let me use this medium to tell you that the horse is coming to a home away from home, a stable has already been prepared for the arrival of a new horse, every horse in our farm has its own stable and are feed well every day, I have 3 other horse on the farm, my horses only comes on the farm 3 times a week and takes the rest of the week resting, My farmers ride the horses on the farm to monitor my other life stocks while on field, and monitor my other workers and see that the affairs of the farm are going on normally and we ride for pleasure on the farm on Sundays in the evening, and on rear occasions when some sheep’s are missing on the farm we set out on them to find the lost sheep’s and on Fridays they get bathed, the farms’ vet doctor comes in every month to check on the live stocks and my horses are the first he checked on as I believe they are a very important part of the farms family, and this is not based on whether we having problem on the farm or not…I want you to know that if you sell the horse to me, the horse is in good hands and i would have really loved to come over with my farm vet to check on the horse but might not be possible due to the present condition of my child and this is why am counting on you on this sales.. Am a widow with 3 kids, lost my husband 2 years ago to a kidney problem when we could not get a donor on time, and one of the kids at the moment has the same illness, pray I get a donor on time…I leave on my late husband farm with my family and some of my workers here in Pa in the state, I would have really loved to call you but my phone is temporarily bad as I have not been able to call out or receive call for days now but i hope this few lines says little about me, … I treat my life stocks well and take good care of them I would have called you but my phone line is presently being worked on have not been able to call out or receive call on the line for a week now as soon as it is ok, I’ll contact you immediately, I spend time with them and feed them well, my life stocks are very very important to me and I value them like I value life, and I also have a animal loving family and same goes for my workers. I want you to know that if you sell me the horse, the horse is coming to a home away from home, a good family and in good hands. Please get back to me so as to get the payment issued out on time, I’ll need this information for the check to be issued out as soon as possible. YOUR FULL NAME…..,CONTACT ADDRESS……,STATE & ZIP CODE……..,PHONE NUMBER……to contact you. And i want to believe i can count on your full trust on this transaction………..My Regards.. Be rest assured of this. waiting to read from you.
Thanks for reminding us every little bit counts and for posting the rescues that need help! I just donated $25 to SCR and $25 to Cowgirl Spirit.
Call the Enumclaw Sales Pavillion. The number is (360) 825-3151.
The last I heard Ron had five horses, which isn’t a full trailer, so he’ll probably be more than willing to sell them now. He had six and sold one right after the sale for $400.
Yes, I noticed that as soon as I woke up. I’ve notified the person who actually “owns” it, we should have something worked out by tonight. Sheesh, can’t be much of a bandwidth limit.
Appyfreak – you just need to call the Sales Pavillion and tell them you’re interested in the Leopard Appy (reference it’s tail tag number for them) and would like to know the price. Last month most of them went for between $200-$400… yes, it sucks to “line Ron’s pockets” but it will suck worse if that beautiful and broke horses gets on “the truck”.
The ID’s on the three OTTB’s that have been moved to Serenity Equine Rescue have been verified. Packed House and Face of Excess were pretty easy based on their tattoos and descriptions – Starryeyedprospect was a little tougher. Her coat is more bay than the dark bay associated with her tattoo, and the description of her star (diamond) seemed off. However, the description of her right front white and left rear white couldn’t have been more right on, nobody can account for this horses whereabouts, AND the last trainer known to have her has dumped horses before. So, with all those pieces put together I’d say she is Starryeyedprospect.
QueenGwennyPoo – that response just screams SCAM! Too much info, lots of pity generating talk, and the fact that they want you to handle a financial transaction? Run, run, run the other way!!
I would like some help from those of you who have had success with the jockey club on identifying horses through their tattoo. I have the TB who was just brought here for foster care whose number is somewhat legible as _3935_
The first letter is probably a B, C or D, the last looks like a 0. Now the question, how do you get them to do more than just tell you that they can’t figure it out. I thought they were going to try to help owners. We base the first letter on his age on his last coggins and the vet estimate. If anyone knows how to get more help or what we need to do, please e-mail me at jcampb1045@aol.com. Thank you so much.
Post some lip pics! We have some GOOD graphic design type people reading here who can enhance your pics and probably get a clearer read on it.
New blog tonight…too busy today, sorry guys!
That’s a doozy, queengwennypoo. I’m with Morgan_Horse_Queen—run, run away! She wants YOUR phone number, says she’d like to talk to you on the phone but her phone is temporarily bad? I think she might be planning to show up to YOUR residence and steal a kidney for her “sick kid.†I’m surprised she didn’t ask your blood type … perhaps during the phone call she will?
Are there any literate people in the United States? Wrong words, use of possessives when simple plural is called for, punctuation and capitalization and generating a complete and coherent thought are not too difficult. I had most of that down pat by 4th grade.
What is going on in this nation? Stupidity is now acceptable, and in epidemic proportions. These people have jobs (how?), reproduce and vote. No wonder we are in such a sorry state …
@queengwennypoo– That email has all the classic Nigerian 419 scam signs. Note the number of grammatical mistakes regarding the term “livestock” that point to English not being the first language. Too much unasked-for detail typically indicates the backstory is a lie. The use of lots of run-on sentences also seems to be a hallmark of these scammers. Note the insertion of personal tragedy, aimed at garnering sympathy from you, so you’ll be primed when they hit you up for money later! Lovely, eh? I’d forward that one to the FBI.
Queengwennypoo, I agree that this sounds way too much like some kind of scam. She’s a poor widow who runs a large farm with employees; her English sucks; her phone doesn’t work (makes me wonder if her area code is somewhere she doesn’t want you to know about); none of the three kids was a match for their father’s kidney (though that’s not all that rare)…
I would NOT send her any of your info. Insist that she send you hers, including her phone; then Google it. If there’s nothing on Google, call her local police department to check her out. Or look for a local boarding barn and ask if she has a reputation.
I may be totally wrong, but my instincts are just screaming, “Stay away!”
Ruthie
We are also getting our hay from a guy who picks it up in Moses Lake and sells it off his flatbed. He will deliver, and is located on the eastside of Lake Washington. He has a “location” in Hobart and goes as far south as Enumclaw I believe. His alfalfa is the nicest I’ve seen, about 85 – 90 pound 2 string bales for $10. We bought way more than we need just because it is so nice. He has good orchard grass for $12. I could probably get it for less if I wanted to argue the price.
The best part – NO TAX
(Actually the best part is the alfalfa…the quality is to die for…)
AACCCKKKK….must not look…..new home purchase, mother moving in…enough to make anyone crazy but will hang on to the one brain cell that screams..NOT NOW, NO HOW….the dust will settle and we’ll see eventually. But I like playing in the mud so we’ll see what winter brings.
We can all help, and yes your small donations do make a difference and they do add up.
I was also a partner in rescuing #334 the little grey arab gelding, Baz, registered name Bazkheno Devinici. This little guy has managed to charm everyone he”s met so far. We know he will go on to a good life now that Cowgirl Spirit will be making sure he gets proper food, care & training. Donating to a rescue like Cowgirl Spirit is a great way to help these horses. They do wonderful work and not only get them rehabilitated but trained.
As our Morgan Horse Queen said, this rescue took a village. Thank you to aja, to Cass, Fugly herself, and several other local folks (didn”t think I should list names) who have generously stepped in to help not only Baz, but several of the Arabs from the last auction with trailering, cash donations, tactical help, hands on care, etc. Everyones contribution has made a difference in getting these guys off the truck and into better places.
Off topic: Has anyone else been following the huge outcry over a video taken of a horse in the warm up ring at a dressage World Cup qualifier? The video was uploaded to YouTube. The horse was ridden in a hyperextended state (rollkur) for over two hours and at one point his blue tongue was seen lolling out of his mouth. The video has caused a major stir, enough so that the BHS (British Horse Society) has written a letter to the FEI strongly encouraging both an investigation into this particular incident, as well as an investigation into the prevalent use of rollkur in FEI events. It is unknown why it is just now that people are finally taking action over this commonly used training regime that may be witnessed at any Grand Prix dressage venue – maybe a case of the straw that finally broke the camels back…
Links below:
The Jurga Report (see post on Oct. 25): http://special.equisearch.com/blog/horsehealth/
Epona.TV Link, The Story with Link to Youtube Video: http://epona.tv/uk/news/show/artikel/blue-tongues-at-world-cup-qualifier/?tx_ttnewsbackPid=388&cHash=563648c137
YouTube, the Uncut Version of the Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo8W2fUjdM4&feature=channel
Epona.TV Link, Letter from BHS to FEI: http://epona.tv/uk/news/show/artikel/bhs-calls-for-fei-action-on-rollkur/?tx_ttnewsbackPid=388&cHash=fd147976e6
Epona.TV Link, FEI to Investigate: http://epona.tv/uk/news/show/artikel/fei-to-investigate-kittel-warm-up/?tx_ttnewsbackPid=388&cHash=675c98f90c
Facebook Page with FEI Petition Information: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=181093975134&ref=mf
I went and took some pictures, will put them on when someone gets home to help me with the computer. Thanks, everyone.
Okay, wouldn’t the title be POST ENUMCLAW report, or are you sending them back?! Things are bad here in Indiana, I’d rather see people dumping at auction than the starving ones I’ve seen recently. Talk bout a living hell.
I was just chatting with my neighbor across the road (he has Walkers he trail rides around here) and he said much the same thing–the prices at Shipshie aren’t great, but at least the horses will be dead quickly and not starving to death like some he’s seen down there.
I’m 402′s legal owner, and he has been redubbed Mr. T. We are calling him a Morab, as he appears to be a mix of Arab and something, and Morgan is as good a guess as we have. He has a whole slew of people in ‘his corner’ now, including a trainer found by one of his ‘fairy godmothers’ out in WA who has in turn been a huge help finding a farrier to work on a green horse with ouchy feet. Now that he’s through quarantine, he’ll be headed out to a pasture board where the trainer and a very helpful lady are going to keep working with him–he will either head out here, or he may find a new owner who wants a smart, willing horse who’s just a bit late starting school thanks to some useless prior owners! He has somehow accrued this little fan club and I have no doubt one way or another he’s on his way to a useful life, no thanks to whoever dumped him.
It was the Pre-enumclaw report because I wrote it before the sale this month.
Is 402 the bay Arab gelding who looked lame behind? I hope so – he looked like such a cutie and I was desperate for him to get a good home
402 is getting his pedicure on Friday morning. I am the lucky one to be working on his feet, I will be getting pictures and keeping a record of this. I have not seen the condition he is in yet, but am told his feet are pretty bad.
I am so happy to see so many people pulling together to help these horses, am glad to be doing what I can also.
The auction horse website is back up, but may not stay there long if it gets flooded with traffic. I’m going to try to get the .com site up tonight.
Is 402 the bay Arab gelding who looked lame behind? I hope so – he looked like such a cutie and I was desperate for him to get a good home?
He is, though again the consensus is he’s not a purebred Arab (or likely anything.) We’re saying “Morab”, but he could be Arab crossed with just about anything. He’s also perfectly sound behind as far as anyone can tell, besides being ouchy from needing a trim–enough to jump a fence when he decided he wasn’t getting back to the herd fast enough! The trainer is pleased with his temperament, and thinks he’ll come along better once his feet are trimmed and he’s comfortable.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/grd/1448892438.html
Just saw that ad and thought I’d share in case anyone was looking for a TB prospect unraced, it appears these guys were bred to race but never made it to the track. The sellers are hoping to sell before they end up going to the auction. Another “must sell” situation.
al2payne wrote:
>>> “We had a woman sign up for riding lessons for her son, age 11. By lesson five he was posting somewhat okay on the lunge line, of course still not holding the reins. His mom said, “We won’t be back again, the stuff you are doing is redundant, we plan to buy him a pony.’” <<<
Fortunately I have had very few of these over the years. I also had a parent that pulled her daughter from lessons once because I was teaching her too much. *bangs head against wall*
Amazing how it's always the trainer/instructor's fault, isn't it?
I also was stunned when the barn owner of a facility I used to train out of claimed the farrier was ripping her off because he was insisting they kept their horses on a regular schedule for trims and horseshoes. She fired him because of this. Sigh.
Some people.
marzbarz wrote:
>>> “I am willing to offer reasonable rate (even volunteer) training services for rescues and rehoming.” <<<
Good for you Shannon, outstanding!
This is something I have done for many years, volunteered training (and other) services for rescues.
While I am here this morning, I'll make a point to extend that offer again here. We're located in the High Desert of Southern California, in the lovely town of Pinon Hills. Our website is http://www.angelfire.com/ca5/SunlitFarmArabians/ and my email address is SunlitLady@aol.com
Appy freak if you are going to the Eugene (Oregon) auction beware – it is crawling with kill buyers. And they can be pretty aggressive if they think you are there to rescue so keep a low profile.
It is very bad in this area of the state. yesterday driving home from work I saw someone unloading two smallish horses in a parking lot. Parked next to them was a double decker.
In addition to the so-called “unwanted” horses here are stolen horses being run through the auctions in Eugene and in Woodburn. If you think the local authorities will assist, rethink your assumptions. Not gonna happen.
There is a person on my street who advertises on craigslist for unwanted horses. Their pasture gradually has more and more horses in it. On the second Sunday of the month they all “disappear.” They get ratted out and then for a while don’t have these ads and their pasture population stays small. Then, the weather turns bad and they’re doing “business” all over again.
There is a parade of transport trucks down my (major arterial) road toward the auction house starting the Friday before. It is frightening. It is heart breaking.
And the worst part is the VETS are in favor of it.
402/Mr. T loaded in ten minutes this morning with the trainer and one of his ‘fairy godmothers’ and is now at his new home, with a date with the farrier Friday.
SolelyEquine, I don’t know if those making arrangements gave you my name and contact info or not, but my email is julia_octavia AT earthlink DOT net. I’m told his feet aren’t super-long but he’s very tender. Pictures would be much appreciated.
Ah I see, before the NEXT auction. I don’t go to many auctions, way past burned out point here. good luck to everyone and their new horses!
I transported Szizzle to her new home today.
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I have Bella, horse #476 I think, after ferrier, vet and tooth floating she has put on about 100#. There is no better feeling than when she nickers as I come to her pasture. SHAME on those who threw her away!!!!![img]bella[/img]
Just wanted to update a little on 402/Mr. T. (I am part of his local “fan club”). He successfully went into a stall on Friday night, so has full-turnout during the day (in a segregated pasture at this time) but will be stalled at night – at least until we have successfully dealt with the rainrot on his back and he has been handled and worked with more. He also had his hooves trimmed on Friday – thanks Laura, you did a GREAT job – and at least a partial vet exam as the vet had an emergency. She diagnosed the problems on his back – little warty things with hair growing through them – as rainrot. And gave him his vaccinations.
I’d like to note here how important I feel it is to treat horses who are rescued or purchased from auction or the KB (or craigslist, for that matter) as if they have a significant parasite load. Why anyone would think an owner who would send the horse to auction and possible slaughter would also have taken care of such things as regular deworming, vaccines, or anything else is a mystery to me.
There are things that can depress a horse’s immune system and lead to rainrot and other issues, such as poor nutrition, stress, and heavy parasite load. Mr. T. didn’t receive his first (half) dose of Strongyd paste until two weeks ago, second (half) dose of Strongyd paste one week ago, and will be able to receive his full dose of Ivermectin this Monday. He would certainly be ahead of the game physically if this protocol had been followed from the get-go. We’re hoping that significantly reducing whatever parasite load he may have will help a lot with our treatment of the rainrot. And after his Ivermectin treatment, he can also be turned out with the other geldings, which will make him far happier.