But my trainer said they look fine!
Aug 31 2009
Another day, another self-centered idiot who refuses to have a number of horses she can actually feed. The best part was her comment in the title – I can’t wait until I can tell you who the trainer is but I can’t say just yet. These came from Yelm, Washington and this afternoon I was on site visiting the seized horses. My pics are below.
See the mare who set herself up, Arab halter-style? That is one heck of a nice quality mare. I can’t wait to find out who she is but the owner ignored the warrant and refused to release the papers. (If you recognize a horse in my pics, by all means, please comment!) The pinto is also a heck of a nice mare who is going to be beautiful with weight on. The horses are Saddlebreds, Arabians and pinto half-Arabians with a few minis thrown in for good measure. The ridiculous teeth belong to a mini stallion with a wry nose. ‘Cause that needs to breed on!
The guy with his nose in the grain bucket is Taco, a two year old registered Saddlebred stallion. Apparently, the lady these horses were seized from did not think the rescuers were even going to be able to move Taco – she was quite intimidated by him. I had the opportunity to work a bit with the “wild, uncontrollable” stallion while I was visiting and he needed to be removed from his stall for cleaning. I think it took me a whopping 3 minutes to halter him…as soon as he realized wither scratches feel awesome, he was eager to make friends and get more. I was on the alert, expecting nipping, striking, rearing and other naughty colt behaviors but Taco failed miserably at being a wild, uncontrollable stallion, doing nothing more than backing up a few steps and stopping when he realized, hey, no one was pulling on him and there was no chain. Taco desperately needs 300 lbs and 2 nonessential body parts removed, but after that I suspect someone will have a darn nice show horse in the making.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County has all of these guys going to foster homes this week to continue fattening up and have their feet and other needs attended to. PLEASE donate if you can by clicking here. HARTC does a great job in a county where problems are many and funding is scarce and these horses are going to need a lot of help, as you can see.
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Sick. Truly sick.
I love that bald face. Wish I could come get her.
Can I get more info on the horse that is listed as “Yelm11″?
#11 is Taco, the two year old registered Saddlebred colt. Trying to find out his registered name but it’s confirmed that he does have papers.
oh my, horses in that condition make my brain ache >_< some of those are going to be stunning when they've got their weight back on though! I expect progress updates!
I’m disappointed you’re all the way out in Washington. Taco looks lovely. Good, too, that the horses now have a place to stay that actually has food.
Poor horses… are those pictures taken at the Trails End Arena??? Because, if not, then that barn looks JUST like that place, and the stalls look the same too.
Love the pinto mare; wish I were able to help beyond a few dollars. The place I nanny for rents their property to a horseguy; perfect pasture for a lady to recover. But, sadly on the opposite end of the USA…
So, I would assume the trainer is blind? To me, that is the only way to justify saying that any of these horses “look” fine!! I wanted to say something else, but I am at a loss for words (which doesn’t happen very often!)
Yes, they were all taken to the Trails End Arena for now and are moving to foster care at various locations this week.
The skinny grey looks to have DSL. Poor thing.
Taco is adorable! Bet you won’t have any trouble finding a good home for him. But doesn’t the dimwit owner have to be convicted before they can place any of the horses since this wasn’t’ a voluntary surrender? What are the legalities involved?
Wow… just wow. Glad they are all out of there.
Can I call dibs on Taco??? He sure is handsom!
Can anyone help this poor mare? http://ocala.craigslist.org/grd/1350607184.html
Of course they won’t be available until the case is over but you can absolutely apply in advance and get approved as an adopter. Just go to Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County.
And another, the bay mare is $1000 I guess. http://ocala.craigslist.org/grd/1350287757.html
It’s so disgusting when these kind of people won’t admit they screwed up. No food, no water, empty troughs every time they went out… and she’s insistent ‘no everythings ok I fed them twice a week!”
Yes exactly its just because the sheriff showed up between feedings! It’s completely natural for an animal to look that skinny when it’s “hungry”
I hope the judge hears her excuses and throws her in jail
Well, I went to that site (Hooved Animal Rescue). Can you believe their #1 requirement is that you own the property where the adoptee will live? As if boarding a horse at a nice stable is a bad thing?
Unfortunately, these horses are too far away for me to consider anyway (in southern New England) but good grief, not everyone who can afford to keep a horse in style owns horse property. I could sponsor one if you know this is a legitimate rescue. So many today are horrors…
Another day, another hoarder–will it ever end?
To side track today’s topic–I just read Joe’s Morning Journal (TB Friends) and was horrified at what he had to say about the latest craze for the Mexican rodeos. Joe said that a stallion is tied to a post and two other stallions are encouraged to fight the tied horse. Bets are placed on whether or not the tied horse will survive.
I am beyond words. I think that most of us have seem the Internet photos of stallion fighting in the Philippines. But this is happening in the U. S.!!
This needs to be documented somehow and then have public outcry to enforce current laws which would stop this.
What can we do that would be effective?
My heart hurts…
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Well, I guess she can blame her horses condition on the bad advice she got from her “trainer” who remains nameless. If there IS such a “trainer” it just proves that you don’t have to actually know anything about horses to call yourself a “trainer”. Even so the ultimate responsibility lies with the owner who has too many horses and not enough money to feed her animals. Or she was just to f’ing lazy to do what was necessary to properly care for her animals. People like this deserve far more punishment than our current laws allow. Makes me sick.
I am shocked that horse is still alive. I know of a horse who had its hooves fall off. They had it euthanized immediately. This was a rescue situation where the horse had been left in a filthy stall for too long. Its hooves had rotted off, and it was in a lot of pain. It was really obvious the horse should be put down.
It’s possible the animal in the picture had suffered irrreparable damage to its hooves prior to arriving at the rescue, but that is no excuse for torturing the poor thing. That poor animal is in excruciating pain, and the chance for recovery is pretty much zero. It would take at least a year for that much hoof to grow, but as we know there is much more to a hoof than just the toenail part. If there was some way to keep the horse happy, healthy, and comfortable, would it ever re-grow a proper hoof? Considering the various tissues that would need to be regenerated, I’m thinking not.
My rule for euthanization is: If they are not having fun and never will have fun again, it’s time.
For deciding whether to go through expensive medication of an expensive procedure, you have to look at the positives and negatives. If it is a young animal and the chance is 100% for a full recovery and many years of comfort, happiness, and productivity, the procedure won’t be too stressful or painful for the animal, and it’s not prohibitively expensive, then go ahead and do it. If it is an old animal, the procedure will cause a lot of pain and stress, and they’re not likely to return to a happy, comfortable, sound state, then it’s time to euthanize. In between these two extremes you have to weigh the distress to the animal if you do nothing, the distress to the animal caused by the proscribed treatment, the likelihood of a full recovery to a sound happy state, and the cost. If the animal will never be comfortable and and happy, euthanize. If you can’t afford the procedure and the animal is in pain, euthanize.
With this poor horse that has no hoof: it’s in pain, and there is no treatment. Why haven’t they euthanized it yet?
I have seen people go to all sorts of expense to treat elderly animals. I suppose that is OK if they can afford it and the animal is happy. I have seen people go to extremes trying to keep an animal alive that is obviously dying. But keeping an animal alive when it is in pain and will never get better, that makes no sense.
I have to say that I agree with Fantasia on the HAROTC requirements for adoption. You have to OWN and RESIDE on the property the adoptee will live on? I am too far away anyway but I couldn’t adopt because of the requirements, as I’m sure many others who might be close enough to have been able to help.
Let me check that with them, because I believe I know someone who boards and has an adopted horse from them. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Frak von Frakenheimer. What is wrong with people? Thanks to FHOD for facilitating my weight reduction program – I’m not remotely interested in lunch after seeing the photos. God bless y’all who help.
Not to excuse the horses in this particular case, but wry nose is caused by position in the uterus and does not breed on.
(Can you only approve this post and not the one above with the typo??)
What happened to that horse’s hooves? Broken? Worn down? Bad enough the trainer thought the skinny was okay, the feet are dreadful!
Can not wait to find out who the trainer is… So I can stay way away from he/she!!! I am glad I do not have room for more than the 2 that I have or I would be soooo tempted to foster one…
Whose the trainer? Stevie Wonder? Nooo…even HE could tell these horses are too thin! And who CARES what the trainer says? I’d have yanked my horses out of there in a flash if I found them like this!
I want to know why the HECK it seems that so many Arabian/saddlebred/pinto breeders are caught up in this kind of hoarder breeding bullshit! I know its not exclusive to Arabians, but here we are again…in WASHINGTON with yet again another “breeder” of Arabians that do this! I’m furious! I can guarantee you that most of us legit, above board, tax paying Arabian FARMS have not heard of this person either!
I’m so pissed I could spit. Thank GOD I don’t recognize any of the horses. But of course the cheap ass B*^% probably couldn’t afford to buy one from me anyway. Probably picked most up from auction and calls them breeding stock. (although I’ve found a couple TOP notch horses at auction over the past 20 years)(but only a COUPLE).
Sorry about the swearing. I figured I’d act as white trash as this woman IS.
Can’t wait to hear who the horses are and who this woman and her trainer is. She could be lying about the trainer, but since Fugs said she can’t wait to tell….probably not.
Hi guys been a long time.
OMG those poor horses. And WTH on the horse who’s hoof fell off.
Its all so crazy.
Euth him. Yesterday. If he’s dropping weight like that, and he was in good shape, it is because he is in so much pain he either can’t eat, or can’t metabolize what he eats, probably both. And sorry, but a prosthetic hoof is a pipe dream. He should weigh over a thousand pounds. What kind of prosthetic frog is going to absorb the impact of him even walking or shifting his weight, asuming you could attach a prosthesis?
If they hurt bad enough, animals quit living anyway. He may just drop dead all by himself. One can hope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM1I8AnhGWY
Someone found this.. It’s horrifying.
I hope its okay I cross posted to the Saddlebred Rescue, links to here and to the Rescue that took in those horses.
I think it sucks that people can blindly let their horses get like this.
If I can post more info, let me know. Thanks
carol
Cat, email me the name of the neglectful owner and I will run a report on her, then compare the horses to see if I can ID the Arabians. L
does anyone have the email address to get ahold of cathy?
That grey defiantly has DSLD- poor thing. I’m close to Yelm, Wa, and it’s really not that uncommon up here for people to own their own property. The majority of horsey folks I know all keep horses onsite, including myself. I know it’s less common on the East Coast- but just so ya know, fairly ordinary out here.
I agree though- seems an odd requirement for a rescue. If it’s a knowledgeable person, and a reputable boarding barn- who cares if you don’t OWN the property! Good homes first and foremost.
Hope these guys find good homes. Wish I could help but I’m pushed to the max as it is. Looks like all those girls (and guys) need is some good quality hoof-care, wormer, and GROCERIES! It’s not rocket science folks. My 5 yr old just saw those pics and said they were skinny. How can he know that, but a ‘trainer’ claims they are fine? Sick.
Wow. I can’t wait to find out who the trainer is. I live in WA (not in Yelm, but around it) so chances are I’ll recognize the name. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to understand that horses need to eat food..it seems like such a basic concept.
Hi Guys, can I just say re QuePaso’s Rodeo post, if you dont agree with Rodeo do something about it. Email the sponsors, in this case one of the sponsors was Coke. Coke admit that they sponsor Rodeos but that there is a code of animal welfare which must be abided by. (Sorry, must have missed that in the video, as was concentrating on watching a horse with a catastrophic fractured leg be dragged out of the arena and dumped in a holding pen & not receiving any vet care)
Companies like Coke think the general public are naive and wont find out what they do with there money, they also very rarely receive feedback. The internet means we can all see stuff like this but still only a small number of people will do anything about it. Coke is a global brand who need feedback. It is easy to tell them what you think and even suggest somewhere more fitting for them to spend money. How about a good equine rescue sponsored by Coke, how cool would that be. If you dont tell them what you think, things will never change. Imagine being the head of sponsorship at Coke and finding 1000+ emails in your in box tomorrow morning asking them to take responsibility for what happens at the Rodeos they sponsor. I am not just picking on Coke, there are plenty of other companies sponsoring stuff I dont agree with. But please if you hate it that much, tell them what you think!
Strangest horse photo I’ve ever seen!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_d_qMo4ImpiY/SpUALzCbu_I/AAAAAAAACxQ/7faIkO8ObJ8/s1600-h/horse+love+Dlisted.jpg
(Although doesn’t qualify as fugly, though it’s hard to tell in that position!)
Darwin Award!
Taco looks like a really handsome boy. I’d love to see more pictures of him.
Oh yes, those horses look like they’re in GREAT condition, if your idea of “fine” is being able to count their ribs, spinal column, AND see their hipbone sticking out! Yeah, this lady took GREAT care of her horses. *sarcasm*
Glad to see that they were seized, and I hope the original owner really gets nailed to the wall for this, and at the very least gets one hell of a fine.
In the meantime Fugs, I’ll see about donating to that rescue. Looks like a good, worthwhile one.
I accidentally posted this under the srong story… So, here it is again, a little modified.
The reason that mare set herself up halter is because the trainer primarily does halter. He “trains” Arabians and is located in the Yelm/Tenino area. He and his wife show in the Arab circuit and have for years.
If it is is true that he knowingly kept horses under these conditions with this person, who by the way IS a client of his and has been for several years, it is the most shamful thing I can imagine. Of course, they(“trainers’) will deny their part in any of this… They always do!
There are definately those people who should never own animals and are just plain ignorant and then there are these people who know better. They (trainers) are to represent and be an example of how to properly care for a horse. After all this is supposed to be their “profession.”
There are many people in this community who know EXACTLY who he and his wife and the woman who had them are. If those involved with Arabians and any kind of training think about it long enough, they do too!
As far as the horse, Taco, she has had this horse for several years supposedly as a rescue. He doesn’t look any better than when she first got him. He was stabled with this trainer, at his barn, for a while. What does that tell you????
I too have gone to see these horses and the pictures don’t do the level of neglect justice. Pictures do not show the sad, defeated look in their eyes or their frailness. It is by far the saddest thing I have ever seen.
Shame on all of them!
Well, you just can’t fix stupid.
I think the owner should be put in a cell and starved for while to know how it feels.
Or she should be sentenced to bringing the horses back up to fine condition for sale.
I mean living in the barn and caring for them 24 hours a day until they fully recover.
When do we get to hear who this trainer is??? (as if we don’t already know) God help the people who keep bringing their horses to this trainer time after time. What kind of trainer would even have clients like this? Not one with integrity, that’s for sure. What do these people do, just sit on their butt in the house all day and look out their window watching the horses slowly starving? I put them right up there with Hitler, having absolutely NO compassion for another living creature’s well being. Can we not get some jail time for people like this? Oh…. NO, that would be a mistake. After all, you get FED in jail. They deserve to be treated just like they treated these defenseless animals……no food, water or any kind of care.
They and their trainer make me sick!!!
Its sad when animals are abused or neglected. I am curious though if I remember correctly there were nearly 30 animals taken yet you only have pictures of 3 or 4 animals? What are the ages of the animals in question? Did any of them have medical issues asside from neglect that could possibly explain a low wieght? I used to have a horse that was over 30 that I couldn’t keep weight on but wasn’t going to put her down as she was not sick or feeble. Pictures aren’t always what they seem, remember when our president looked to be bowing to an arab prince???
horslovr says: September 3, 2009 at 9:02 amI accidentally posted this under the srong story… So, here it is again, a little modified.
The reason that mare set herself up halter is because the trainer primarily does halter. He “trains†Arabians and is located in the Yelm/Tenino area. He and his wife show in the Arab circuit and have for years.
If it is is true that he knowingly kept horses under these conditions with this person, who by the way IS a client of his and has been for several years, it is the most shamful thing I can imagine. Of course, they(â€trainers’) will deny their part in any of this… They always do!
There are definately those people who should never own animals and are just plain ignorant and then there are these people who know better. They (trainers) are to represent and be an example of how to properly care for a horse. After all this is supposed to be their “profession.â€
There are many people in this community who know EXACTLY who he and his wife and the woman who had them are. If those involved with Arabians and any kind of training think about it long enough, they do too!
As far as the horse, Taco, she has had this horse for several years supposedly as a rescue. He doesn’t look any better than when she first got him. He was stabled with this trainer, at his barn, for a while. What does that tell you????
*Didn’t the person taking the pictures say Taco was two years old? If that is true then your information seems to be incorrect.”
I too have gone to see these horses and the pictures don’t do the level of neglect justice. Pictures do not show the sad, defeated look in their eyes or their frailness. It is by far the saddest thing I have ever seen.
Shame on all of them!
horslovr says: September 3, 2009 at 9:02 amI accidentally posted this under the srong story… So, here it is again, a little modified.
I too have gone to see these horses and the pictures don’t do the level of neglect justice. Pictures do not show the sad, defeated look in their eyes or their frailness. It is by far the saddest thing I have ever seen.
Shame on all of them!
*I would be curious to see pictures of the other 20 some odd animals to see if all of them are in the same shape. I see pictures above of 3 animals and not much specific information on the rest of the animals. This seems like alot of hatred without much factual information or vet reports.*
There are pictures of 3 or 4 because the volunteers were busy actually working, it was too dark in the barn to get clear pics, and I did not think that making them drag all the horses out for pics was a good use of their time.
I assure you, none of these horses are 30 (and even if they were, try reading my old horses thread to see what 30 OUGHT and SHOULD look like).
I will out the trainer as soon as I have the ok to do so but it’s obvious the locals have this figured out. All I have to say is, if your horse is in training/on a lease in the Yelm, WA area and you’re NOT checking on him, maybe you might want to do that.
fhotd says: September 5, 2009 at 4:12 pm
There are pictures of 3 or 4 because the volunteers were busy actually working, it was too dark in the barn to get clear pics, and I did not think that making them drag all the horses out for pics was a good use of their time.
* Why would they drag all the horses out for pics? The animals would need to be taken out of the barn on the way to whichever trailer is going to take them off of the property, correct? Wouldn’t you need pictures of each animal as well as a vet report on each animal at the time of confiscation in order to show actual neglect? What was the name of the Vet that was on sight to do the animal inspections? *
I assure you, none of these horses are 30 (and even if they were, try reading my old horses thread to see what 30 OUGHT and SHOULD look like).
I will out the trainer as soon as I have the ok to do so but it’s obvious the locals have this figured out. All I have to say is, if your horse is in training/on a lease in the Yelm, WA area and you’re NOT checking on him, maybe you might want to do that.
*chirp chirp* I hear crickets chirping but no answers to my questions… Horslovr… fhotd…??
Instant idiots…. Obviously most bloggers visiting this site are so narrow-minded they only have one ear!!! I have yet to see a firm and fit 30 year old horse — the equivalent of a 90-year old person. Anyone remember that a horse over 12 years is called a “smooth mouth” for a reason?
I do have some information about this seizure. There was no vet present–the vet didn’t examine the animals until the following Tuesday. At the seizure, the horse owner was told “the vet is on the way” but probably had never been notified of the seizure until after the fact.
It is unfortunate that many folks open their mouths before checking the facts. Show the photos of all the horses so the bloggers can see these horses were in relatively good condition. It is obvious that most folks involved in the “rescue” don’t which know end of the horse to feed. Perhaps the most assinine comment on the TV coverage was the comment that “this horse’s chest is so thin that it only needs one hole for both legs”. Which rock did this person crawl out from under? ALso was a noted that a pygmy goat was seized because it had a pot belly (OMG) what would have happened with a pot bellied pig? One of the features of pygmy goats is that they have a giant belly (as opposed to Alpine or Nubian goats).
Several animals were ponies taken from pasture with the allegation of “worm overload”. Anyone who has owned or been around ponies know that ponies on pasture get hay bellies — and that is not necessarily “neglect”.
Questions– there are a lot more questions than answers.
I have posted many pictures of “firm and fit” 30 year olds. Check the old horse thread. None of the horses seized was that age, and many were in despicably thin condition. The comment that both legs came out of the same hole on some was sadly perfectly descriptive.
I have no doubt after seeing the horses myself that this was a severe case of totally avoidable neglect. And of course, all horses were promptly treated by an excellent vet.
But you defenders keep up with the silly statements. They are so easy to prove wrong.
Thank you sneakers for shedding a little more light on the subject. My whole skepticism in this ordeal started when I saw the tv news coverage as well. When they showed the mini’s with hay bellies that were in a pasture it reminded me of a friend of mines who looked the same and were not neglected. It’s starting to sound more and more like an unlawful confiscation of animals under the unfounded “guise” of neglect. It also seems like an abuse of bestowed power and those responsible for the confiscation could/should face criminal charges. People who seemingly act like bullies such as these people are lucky they don’t get shot, although I don’t think the honest pet owners who are being stolen from realize it until after it’s over. This however doesn’t mean I don’t think actual animal cruelty and neglect happens however it seems this is not one of those cases.
I know these horses & people. My step sister Desiree Lewis, she was shown on the interveiw.. only ONE of these horses were rescued. The black Arabian mare, Wago. There is one grey Arabian who is in her late 20′s. & the Pinto mare who is in her 30′s.. STILL THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THERE WEIGHT & CONDITION. I have wanted to call on there horses for years now. I have always told them “they need this & they need that” but my mom always said don’t start anything it’s not your fault & i feel terrible. My sister is daiting her the son of the lady who owns these animals.. They have other animals. About 30 or so more dogs that they did not take that some are in bad condtion as well.. There is a black arabian filly, barley two years old who they bred & has they bay filly at her side… It’s just a shame.. She is skin & bones.. There is one TB they had. The rest are arabians & half arabians..
Poeople like this should not own animals. They don’t have the money, the resorces, or the propor fecility to own & provide for them. I hope they get what they deserve for this..
OH & THERE “TRAINER”. SOME GUY WHO GOT SHUT DOWN BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO PAY HIS RENT MONEY AT A BARN. HES A JOKE. HE TAKES PEOPLES MONEY & PUTS THE HORSES IN THERE STALLS. He isn’t a trainer. He’s a moron who claims he knows what he’s doing but uses harsh “cowboy” methods & the horses come back beaten & broke. But no trainer. ANYONE can abuse an animal.
Oh & also.. Iknow for a FACT these horses haddent been wormed in AGES! They weren’t on ANY pasture. They were in a DIRT pen with THOUSANDS of rocks! NO GRASS!! These horses were NOT in “rekativley good shape” these horses & ponies & gots & sheep were in terrible condition. So if YOU had any brains YOU should know that. & yes it’s rare to see a fit horse in there late 20′s & older but that’s no excuse to be in THAT bad of shape They should have there teeth floated & be on seinor feed of some sort.
KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU TRY & ACT SMART.
What do you say about there hooves? These horses were kept in UNFAIR conditions. There was NOT ANY ROOM in that small pasture for all these animals!! There was hardley ANY shelter for no more then 3 at a time. No horses got blanketed in the winter except the 3 older ones..
SOME PEOPLES NERVE TO ACTUALLY TRY TO DEFEND PEOPLE LIKE THIS!
I know the whole story & i know these people personally..
But what they have done IS W R O N G hello!!
This has gone to far. I am sick of all the slander you do gooders have to offer. This is NOT a case of abuse or neglect. These “Rescuers” have no idea what they are talking about. They can not even figure out names and sexes of these animals. Most of these horses are in there 20′s and 30′s. Feed twice a day with grass hay alfalfa and senior grain. And the water was kept up also. The owner DID NOT state that she only fed twice a week. That is stupid one of those moron rescuers did. I am tierd of this they had 6 horses teeth floated with in this year. And all vet checked this year. How come they NEVER showed pictures of the other horses they have had sence they were babys. And Chelsea the little girl that wrote the blog on Sept. 29th she has no idea what she is talking about. They need to go out and see her horse, she is ungratful. Always leaving the horse alone for days at a time while she goes to her boyfriends house. The horses ribs are showing and he is only 2. He is a blind stud, she wanted to breed him to one of our mares. Also your going to punish some one for doing a good deed. Most of these horses would not even be living if it were not for the owner. People would not look twice a these horses. But the rescue can not even take care of them. As stated in the Olympian. The owner had the money too. And still does. Give the horses back. She did not abuse or neglect them. All of you are negeleting to see the fact that you tore these horses away from there home. The owner loved them like her own children. Oh and to clear something up The bay arabian mare, she is in her late 20s and they did not ride her because she is older. Let the horse be retired thats what mostly all of them are doing. Living the rest of there days out on a nice little farm BEING TAKEN CARE OF!!!! and i am sorry but if one of you do gooders theys to tell me different you have no idea what you are talking about so just shut up and go ride one of your quarter horses
Thanks SO much
Desiree
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Next, time ya’ll decide to take matters into your own hands; just realize your digging your own hole.
Must feel good doing that huh…?
I have quite a bit to say in response to everything posted over the last month… so please bear with me.
Fantasia states “Doesn’t the dimwit owner have to be convicted before they can place any of the horses since this wasn’t a voluntary surrenderâ€
Normally yes… But to prove how screwed up the Hooved Animal Rescue is and how they will take anyone’s animals to make a few bucks, they put them all up for sale immediately. Not something I would expect them to admit freely, but something I happen to know as a fact. They were also suppose to bring a vet out to the premises to rate these horses before seizing them and they did not do that either. The vet did not go to see the horses for three days. So for all we know they starved them after taking them just so they could have their pathetic pictures and low ratings.
Anna… You seem to think the horse with the damaged feet is unhappy and in pain… have you seen the horse personally? How do you really know he is unhappy? If you look closely to the pictures you can see that the horse had a recent feet trimming. The horse came to her that way and they were in the process of repairing the damage. Again… this is another case of someone who is passing judgment without all the facts.
Anyone who feeds their animal the local grass (which I believe she was feeding some of the animals) is going to get the bloated belly. Can I just point out that the lady on the news report contradicted herself when she said “the big hay belly… the big belly on the mini is from a worm overload†Which is it? A hay belly or worms… you can not have both. Oh and for the record the owner had ALL feces tested and low and behold there were no worms detected.
I would also like to know why, if you watch the news story none of the horses on the story reflect the pictures posted. This takes me back to my above comment of them being starved after they were taken to make the horses look bad.
I happen to know this “trainer†that everyone keeps referring too. I have four horses at his facility and in his care. I have been going out to his facility 6 days a week for almost a year, when I put my first horse in training with him. I would like to clear a few things up:
First …. Chelsea needs to shut her mouth because this trainer DOES NOT beat the horses. This trainer has more talent in his little finger then most of the trainers in this area. Most of the trainers around here like to talk trash and spread rumors about other trainers to gain business. This trainer has an amazing bond with all the animals in his care.
Second…. I do not know where everyone is getting their information but the trainer NEVER said the horses looked “fineâ€. These animals were NOT at his facility and it was not his responsibility to feed them. I would also like to mention that he ONLY had three of her horse in training at his facility EVER and that was over nine months ago. He has not been involved with the horses since.
Third and finally… Again Chelsea… you need to get your facts straight. The trainer was never shut down because he refused to pay his rent. What happened is really no ones business, but those of us who are close to this trainer and know the truth know what happened. All that needs to be said is that the trainer upheld his end of the contract.
>>I happen to know this “trainer†that everyone keeps referring too. I have four horses at his facility and in his care. I have been going out to his facility 6 days a week for almost a year, when I put my first horse in training with him.< <
Really? Because I wouldn’t leave a horse there with what the horses in his front yard look like.
By the way, which facility are you talking about, the place he’s in now or the place he got foreclosed out of or the place he got kicked out of before that?
The fact that you only responded to a very small portion of my response proves that you are making this a personal attack against this trainer, and that is just sad. I don’t understand how this started as a seizure of horses at one persons property to attacking a trainer that had nothing to do with the horses.
As far as the two horses out front…. when is the last time you went by there? And do you know ANYTHING about those two horses? I think not… but I do….
No, it proves I’m busy and don’t have enough time to comment endlessly on my own blog.
The criminals in this case have been charged and I’ll be posting a new blog entry soon with the update so you can blather away then.
I personally attack everybody who neglects horses. That’s one of the main topics of this blog. I’m not singling him out.
Every defense on this thread is RIDICULOUS. Age is NEVER an excuse for a horse to be emaciated. I can show you FAT thirty year olds all day.