Their slogan is – folks, I do not make this shit up – “It’s all about the hair.”
Well, thank you for ‘fessing up before I had to point out that it’s clearly not about the quality or responsible breeding! You’ve allowed me to skip right to step two, detailing your sins for the public…and, boy, do I have a lot to talk about.
First of all, you breed Gypsy Cobs, otherwise known as “coloured cobs that sell for $400 in their native lands but are shipped overseas and sold to foolish Americans for 75x that.” Many Europeans have pointed out this fact on the Internet, but this does not seem to dissuade the Gypsy Vanner aficionados, who continue to shell out amazing sums for critters that are, basically, spotted draft horses with more hair on their legs than a Nascar-watching redneck has on his back.
Though, never let it be said that these folks have one-track minds – their horse collection consists of “our Gypsy Cob stallion, four Draft Cross smaller mares, & one filly. Two Welsh Cob fillies, two Arabian mares, one Curly mare, one Morgan mare and three half Haflinger pony mares.” And hey! You can put one in your barn because “prices are DRASTICALLY reduced” and “offers will be considered on any.”
Well, I can’t imagine why they’re not selling, given that your stud is such a superstar. In your own words, he is “great with the farrior” and “can be ridden and sat on.” Well, shit, with accomplishments like those, I can’t imagine why all them big name dressage folks haven’t come a’callin’ with their checkbooks!
It’s like a damn broken record, isn’t it?
Here is the best part – they have the “buy it now” paypal buttons so that you can put a horse in your shopping cart and check out! What…why would they need to meet you? Know anything about you? I’m sure you’re just as good a horse owner as any! Just paypal over the cash and come get your hafgypsymorcurly baby!
Check out this lovely creature. Poor dear! They say she is really friendly. That is like when someone tells you that your blind date has a great personality! I feel bad for this filly. She had her first foal this year, a month shy of her third birthday, and is bred back again…and she is available on the Internet to any moron who can paypal over $2500. Training level? Described as “baby training”…in other words, she leads and ties. Hell, who needs to train her? She can just pop out babies, like her momma who is also gettin’ booted out the door at age 20 with the following reassuring language: “She was confirmed sound & healthy, and the vet said that she should live for a good long while yet. However, since she is an older mare, her price is for her 2008 in-utero foal only, with Lolli herself being free.” Yep, no value except as a babymaker! That’s what Momma’s life has come to and I’m sure Filly’s life is heading the same direction.
But hey, if you don’t have Paypal and you still want a horse, no problem! We got one you can have for FREE since she is “lame in her front feet.” That’s an interesting diagnosis, but c’mon y’all, we can’t be callin’ the vet for a 24 year old horse! And just so y’all know, we ain’t payin’ for any vet bills if she gets even more fucked up on the ride to her new home. It’s totally y’alls “responcibility.”
But, c’mon, lookit this nice mare! She put up with all kinda shit. Like the way we ride.
And yup, you guessed it! Lame in both front feet Danzer popped out a Morab baby this year! (But we figger she’s probably done now that she’s gonna be 25, so her furry li’l ass is out the door.)
Now, in case you are thinking I’ve found one of the all time prize winners here, I’m not done.
They ALSO have a dog breeding operation. At least I think they are dogs, because I’ve never heard of some of these before. Allow me to list the “breeds,” and I use the term loosely, they are marketing to the public. Again, just use the paypal button and the puppy of your choice is all yours! We don’t need to know nothin’ about ya. Y’all got money, that’s all we need to know!
Mini Bulldogges
Cotrailians
Ori Pei
Colonial Cockers
Mini Colonial Cockers
Mini English Cockers
Mini Aussiedoodles
Labbes
Comfort Retrievers
Mini Saints
Dakota Sheepdogs
Mini Aussiedoodles
Mini English Shepadoodles
It’s ok though, they are happy to educate you about all of these critters. Just peruse the various pages and you can learn that “A Toy Bulldogge is a very small Bulldogge, usually only maturing around 10 inches tall, or less. (As small as 7 inches)” and “A Comfort Retriever highly resembles a Golden Retriever, but are a lot smaller.” And hey, they have guarantees in their contract! Allow me to share!
” This pup is guaranteed healthy and checked by our vet prior to leaving our home. We guarantee its health for 48 hours.”
After that, if it keels over dead, you’re fucked.
“If, within 48 hours after arrival (Sunday’s excluded), the puppy is examined by your vet and is found to be physically unsound, and if, within 48 hour period (Sunday’s excluded) the puppy is returned by the buyer to seller’s home with a written statement from the vet, stating in what respect the puppy is physically unsound, the puppy will be replaced.”
That should be easy, returning a sick puppy to middle of nowhere South Dakota within 48 hours. No problem! And GREAT for the puppy!
“Otherwise all sales are final.”
My cousin, he’s a lawyer, he tole us to say that.
“This pup is also guaranteed to be free from canine hip-dysplagia and retinal eye-dysplagia for a period of twenty-four (24) months from the date of birth.”
After that, again, you’re fucked.
“X-rays for hip-dysplagia must be submitted to the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, 2300 Nifon Boulevard, Columbia, MO. 652012, then submitted to myself, along with the dog, to receive full refund, or without the dog, for half a refund, and a copy of the final Bill of Sale.”
‘Cause we want to resell that there dog to someone who ain’t smart enough to check its hips.
“Eyes must be checked by a licensed opthamologist to receive a refund.”
The fact that it’s walking around carrying a little white cane is not acceptable proof of visual impairment!
“No guarantee is given if in the rare case any puppy is sold for less then $300.”
Of course not!
Say it with me folks…PUPPY MILL, PUPPY MILL, PUPPY MILL!
(And you all know how to stop these people. Make it YOUR MISSION this Christmas that NO ONE in your extended family buys a pet from anything other than a reputable breeder, or that they choose adoption/rescue instead. Let’s all make that small effort this year to make animals’ lives better.)
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Check out this lovely creature. Poor dear! They say she is really friendly. That is like when someone tells you that your blind date has a great personality! I feel bad for this filly. She had her first foal this year, a month shy of her third birthday, and is bred back again…and she is available on the Internet to any moron who can paypal over $2500. Training level? Described as “baby training”…in other words, she leads and ties. Hell, who needs to train her? She can just pop out babies, like her momma who is also gettin’ booted out the door at age 20 with the following reassuring language: “She was confirmed sound & healthy, and the vet said that she should live for a good long while yet. However, since she is an older mare, her price is for her 2008 in-utero foal only, with Lolli herself being free.” Yep, no value except as a babymaker! That’s what Momma’s life has come to and I’m sure Filly’s life is heading the same direction.
Holy Sugar! Did anyone click on the ‘training available’ link?
“Welcome to Windswept Kennels, my fiencee Baron Brausen and I (Janelle Smith) offer a full course training plan for your new puppy.”
(great – Janelle & her fiencee I’m sure will be producing quality offspring of their own wunce thay git heecheded!)
But wait there’s more; the training prices:
PRICES:
Training prices do not include the original price of the puppy or shipping.
Basic Training: $600
Advanced Training: $1,800
Urk.
HAY… anyone wanting to BUY one of those dogs… contact me, I have all those breeds and more right here at the County Animal Shelter I run…and I will only charge you $$40 bucks!
Heck… I can find you a fugly horse just like those listed too… for $50.00 or less… actually .3cents – .11cents a pound for a horse like those! at a nearby auction yard.
In fact…. I just had to euthanize dogs JUST like those this morning, but don’t worry, “breeder” like those frickin Hillcruds create job security for me.
…no wonder I have ulcers and prescriptions for mind calming drugs.. and nightmares….but I will never run out of tears for them….
ok…. now I need a double dose of my meds and a shot of vodka….. AND THEY HAVE CATS FOR SALE TOO!!! OMFG!
the ones they have listed… look like the ones we had to euth this morning….. actually ours looked MUCH healthier. …great more nightmares…..
Oh lord help me I would totally upgrade that gray draft mare if I had ANY use for her whatsoever.. I think she’s so cute!!
This is probably the MOST ridiculous statement on any of their webpages.
“We do have large outside pens for our dogs to protect them from our little bit of traffic, the horses strong hooves, from getting lost out here, to control breeding,…”
TO CONTROL BREEDING?
L.L. said…
Did anyone email this idiot who is breeding all these dogs and horses?
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I did, I sent them here, but I guess that they can’t read very well.
I have to admit, some of those puppies were cute.
But, hey people at Dakota Wind – here’s a newsflash….. ABOUT 99.8% OF ALL PUPPIES, KITTENS, FOALS ARE CUTE! THEN THEY GROW UP AND AREN’T SO CUTE! and even more importantly, THERE ARE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF CUTE PUPPIES AND KITTENS IN ANIMAL SHELTERS. There are HUNDREDS, if not thousands of foals in danger of being slaughtered.
I get that you love animals. They are cute, they are cuddly, they are terrifically superb. Here is an idea for you – FOSTER KITTENS and PUPPIES! FOSTER THEM for the animal shelters – you’ll probably get some back who’s parents (or grandparents) were created by YOU.
Get a clue. You’re not HELPING the animals. You’re creating more unwanted lives. You ought to be reported to whichever agency can limit your number of animals. YOU ARE A HOARDER (and the worst kind, because you’re still breeding for more!)
1/2 Saint bernard 1/2 Cocker mix puppies ONLY $600.And they have a shitload of them.And those poor horses.these shitheads will breed ANYTHING….makes me sick
Oh, yeah – if your argument against fostering is the big BLOW to your income from not breeding your mutts? You can’t POSSIBLY be selling those puppies for the inflated prices you show on the internet. And, if you are????? I’d bet the IRS would be really interested to know that little fact.
This is what Baron Brausen of
Dakota Winds Farms has to say to my inquiries:
“I think that you are all LAZY no talent individuals that need to get a life. Anybody who sits on their computer for HOURS just looking for people to BASH need to be shot! “
now that should help calm our fears and give us confidence in their breeding operation.
Hmmmm???
Nightmare said…
Anyone know what an ‘English Shepherd’ is??
English Shepherds are actually really nice dogs if you get them from a good, reputable breeder. I have one. She’s a working dog on my parent’s dairy farm while i’m away at school. i chose her breed because they very, VERY rarely have hip or health problems- when she’s living with me, she runs 4+ miles a day with me as my running buddy, and can stay with the horses on all-day trail rides. i’ve never had to worry about her being sore (of course, she’s in great shape!). they’re a little bit bigger than border collies, but look very similar. they were bred to be herding animals.
I didn’t read all of the posts— what is with all the dates and times shown first? Odd and distracting.
ANYWAY….
I think, and forgive me if this has been mentioned before, that we have a winner for FHOTYEAR sack of dick cakes. Can I get a WHOOP_WHOOP!!??!! Awesome! Totally fucking amazing branch of the gene pool that had been discovered. (Speaking about the people here) I feel as though the Government should quarantine their facility (without their knowledge and because no one else works outside the ranch it shouldn’t be too hard) and use them as a science experiment as they conduct their own science experiments. They really should not be allowed to leave the confines of their little circus cult they have going on for fear of throwing some more sperm somewhere.
I think they will really enjoy the gift basket of hand made dick cakes and ass hats, accompanied by a case of Bud and a short length of hose to blow smoke up their asses.
So here is to you Mr. Gypcobybpuopuppymiller…. you are a true American herooowwooooooo.
These people are all the same. They have an angry attitude because they’re finally called out on their shitty breeding practices. They’re angry because they’re failures before they ever got started (they’re all illiterate as hell). If they were successful, there would be no reason for “drastically reduced prices” or “offers considered on all”. Successful breeding operations don’t need to resort to those sale tactics to move their product.
These people don’t love animals. It is not about the hair, it is all about the MONEY.
forthefutureofthebreed and NW_Horse_Person,
You reminded me of something I was playing around with. I never finished it, and think I could do a better job after putting some thought into it. lol I may just have to do that, now.
http://tinyurl.com/2dqkxg
The people featured today make my teeth hurt.
Re: the question about 4H: I think that when 4H kids show dogs, it’s similar to AKC Junior handling– the dog must be purebred (not sure if they have to be AKC for 4H), but it’s the kids who are judged, even in a conformation class. So you can take any purebred POS into a 4H ring and win the big prize.
I really dislike 4H. I’ve gotten a real bad taste in my mouth about it b/c of my craphead neighbors, who buy animals for their “project” (sounds like when they’re done with the 4H part the animal gets shoved into the attic like a busted piece of furniture) and then they do exactly that–they finish the project (if they even bother starting it, which they didn’t with their llamas–they just dumped them at a llama rescue when the daughter wanted a horse) and then the animal sits. Great way to teach responsibility to a kid. I’m sure that some 4H programs are fantabulous, but my asshat neighbors don’t seem to have grasped the responsibility aspect of 4H.
O_o;;
Ok, so I’m tired and I don’t have time to read the 200+ posts on this subject, but has anyone mentioned the complete HEIFER neck on their stud yet? Seriously, no wonder all of their pics are from odd angles. Go to the stud’s page and look at the fourth and fifth pictures down… WTF? Is that NORMAL? *twitches* It looks like it came off a STEER. One of those enormous fatty ones that someone was comparing the HYPP monster beasts to… *twitchspasmtwitch*
Mr nascar gave me a laugh! Oh hes just soooo sexy!!!Anyone have his phone number?!!
Oh god breeding that poor thing at 3?thats just disgusting.
Anyway, a little off subject, im a little pissed. Someone has stolen the flyvales off my yearlings. At times like these i wish they wernt so quiet.
nightmare said:
There is an old saying used to describe the ideal cob unfortunately I can only remember part of it…. a good cob should have the head of a Lady, the backside of a cook and the ..something of a Duchess, memory fails me, anyone know the rest?
I have heard this before and I think it might be ‘legs of a duchess’. Does that sound right?
Oh you all are just jealous that you don’t have a magical purple and black pony that comes with a Rollkured headset and poops rainbows! (with lots of hair, of course!)
Like this one:
http://i12.tinypic.com/7xc8p4m.jpg
Joking aside..
Puppy mills are awful, no matter how they disguse it. Throwing horses into it is awful, too.
We rescued one of our dogs from a puppy mill. Was given to us for free and we got the place shut down by calling the local animal control.
That poor mare. Seriously guys, Gypsy Vanners may be beautiful, BUT they are just colored cobs! Why not go buy a cheap one that’s so commonly found?
Actually there was a horse for sale at the barn where I board. Staying there temporarily. A Gypsy Vanner x Arabian. Now THAT is a really screwed up cross. Or in this case it was. The mare wasn’t trained well, either. Didn’t know leads, couldn’t seem to bend, and had awful ground manners. She bites, too.
Wish I had taken a picture. They wanted $15,000 for her.
She left with her owner, got kicked off the property for not paying board.
As for 4-H..
The [horse] group leader was great. Some of the people were trash of the horse world. I must say, the group leader did try her best.
We all did breed reports (Morgan here) and one girl kept saying Friesian as Fray-shh-jun. Oh, and apparently Fray-shh-juns make horrible dress-age horses.
And did you know the Arabian originated in the US? (so said one kid in his report.)
Felt bad for the group leader. She tried her best and did well. However most of the kids were pretty much “I been ’round hosses all my life an’ this is what I learned.”
(nevermind “all their lives” were about 10-12 years old)
OK – THIS “new breed” had me doing fractions on my fingers and trying to understand “designer” lingo…
NEW! Cuddles
Cuddles are 1/2 Beagle, 1/4 Pug, and 1/4 Pekinese. Cuddles are bred two different ways. Either by breeding a Puggle & a Peagle together, or by breeding a Puginese, (Pug/Peke cross), with a Beagle. They may eventually also be bred by breeding a Cuddle to a Cuddle?
Cuddles are the best of both worlds! The one thing that Peagles & Puggles have in commom is being very cuddly! So, that is where the name came from. Puggles can be very rambuncious! Where a Peagle may be very calm. Cuddles have a nice, medium, great temperment! Puggles get cold easily. Cuddles have a short, but warmer coat, making it to where they can stand much cooler tempertures.
Cuddles are stockier built then Puggles, but longer legged, more square built then a Peagle. Super cute faces, long, floppy ears, short nose, square head, curled tail, and they come in all colors! Super colorful dogs! Watch for available Cuddle puppies in the late Summer or Fall of 2007! Preborn deposits accepted.
And they call the doggy parents “Sire” and “Dam” – >.<
I’m gonna buy me a preborn Cuddle pup right away. I want one SIRED by Freddy!
Oh, and their SON is carrying on in true family tradition…
NOTE: After our current litters of Cuddle puppies, our son Baron, and Janelle, are taking over the Copicas & Cuddles. They are also breeding Toy Labbes & Minute Hounds, as well as offering Puppy Training. See their web site at: http://www.windswept.homestead.com They will also have Parti Cuddle Puppies available soon!
*Gratefully hugging my Hurricane Katrina rescue cat as I read this, LOL!*
Cocoa had a litter of Pocket Cuddle puppies by Freddy on August 12th, 2007! Freddy is a Puginese, (Pug/Peke cross), and is considerably smaller then a Pug. Cocoa is a little Pocket Beagle!
YIPPEE!!!!
Wow!
I got such a deal on my 6lb green eyed, black tuxedo mini cat. A mere $100 bucks. I can’t believe I spayed her and missed making a fortune breeding her. OH WAIT! I had to spay her. It was included with the $100 adoption fee at the Humane Society.
The real story is that no one could be bothered to deworm/properly feed my poor kitten before they dumped her at 6 months of age. I thought I had picked a 3 month old out. She had all her adult teeth so in truth she was about 6 months old. She had a couple different types of worms that needed treatment and a bad cold. I always wonder what size she would be with optimal care.
My brother’s asshat neighbors got a Great Dane. It was about 30lbs more than the breed standard and they got rid of it because it was too big for them. Mind you, they never intended to show it. Instead they ended up with a 180lb dog instead of a 150lb dog and that was reason enough to send it to the dog pound.
Blogger Nightmare said…
“The term vanner is a traditional English name for the lighter type of chunky horse used to pull vehicles like…butchers VAN, grocers VAN, etc,etc, smaller cobby, sometimes coloured, often not.
So your Gypsy ‘Vanner’ man definitely did NOT come up with the name VANNER.”
Exactly. Though where I come from it was used more like the term “nag”.
Calling these horses “Vanner” as if it is some super mega secret special breed name they have been called by the Magical Gypsy people for generations is akin to “discovering” a new special breed of dogs called “Gypsy Anklebiters”. These horses are only REALLY vanners if, ~gasp~ they have been used to pull a van!!
Vanner was actually a description of what they did, not what they are. And where I come from, it was mildly insulting, as if they were not fit for a good days hard work so they should be sold off to some city teamster to pull his delivery van. If anyone had called my Grandfather’s horses “vanners” they likely would have come to blows over it.
Dennis Thompson didn’t come up with the term, he simply misapplied it to a “breed” he “discovered” and he sure did use his marketing skills to manufacture an over priced market for what could otherwise have been a nice little beginner and family horse type for people who like a heavier horse. That is part of why I refuse to call them Vanners, and also why I avoid the Vanner society like the plague. I know some wonderful people who are members but the society itself is so elitist and so full of misinformation it makes me want to vomit.
OK I have seen this site before and would have barfed all over the keyboard but I could not afford a new one!!
Why, if it is “all about the hair” do none of their horses have any real hair??
We also need to keep up with the trends here- a good “Coloured Cob” (note use of word “good”) will cost you around £2,000.00 to £3,000.00, more if it is highly trained or proven show quality- the dollar stands at roughly 2 to the pound.
An animal like any on that site would be bound for the tables in France and Belgium.
There would not really be a market for rubbish like that, people are kind but they are not completely stupid.
I would take that Lolli mare, though, and let her stand and eat for the rest of her life- she looks like she has earned it!!!
Just not sure what I would be able to do with her foal.
I think we should pity them. They know not what they do
(clearly)
Oh My GOD!!!!!!
WHAT are those cartoon kids DOING to that Snowman on the “Windswept ” site!!!
That should be reported to the child pornography brigade- I do NOT have “that sort” of mind and even I can see it.
Go take a GOOD look!!!
Er well, hybrid vigor aside, its well known that genetically speaking, crossing out increases heterozygosity and increasing heterozygostity decreases the possibility of homozygous defects from cropping up. Thats a basic genetic fact. Therefore, mixes, from a *population perspective* (thats the key term that most people miss cuz they focus on individuals), are more likely to have a lower incidence of diseased dogs than populations of purebreds. That doesnt mean that diseased dogs dont occur. It just means that the possibility of incidence is lowered.
You can only increase the risk of disease by consistantly using diseased animals or carriers in a breeding program. And then the stats reflect that program and that program alone.
So yeah..there have been several hundred studies and statistical programs that have documented this. Thats why breeders plagued with diseased animals/plants often talk about crossing out to get healthier stock back.
Such people sucked!
The current subject of this blog has inspired me. With the knowledge I have obtained herein, I am about to become a very rich woman.
I am going to cross this fine, imported specimen with impeccable bloodlines (well, she does have blood, as I discovered when I clipped a claw a bit too short)
>Igor
with this extremely rare spotted/stripey/blotchy semi-tailess kinda feline thingy
Bobbi
There’s a slight problem in that they are both spayed females, but a bit of cloning and gene-splicing will take care of that. As it’s a well known fact that you only get the traits you want when you crossbreed, I’ll have to put a little thought into exactly what I want, so my new designer pet’s genetic code can arrange itself to my specifications. Hmmm….scales for hypoallergenic, maybe two separate strains so you can custom order vegetarian or carnivorous (I guess that better be omnivorous- Bobbi will eat anything) The tail thing will take some thought….They both have terribly sharp claws…Oh, I’ll just get them both declawed, that’ll take care of that in their babies…
Although I will provide “knicknames” for these amazing offspring, I am, for a mere pittance of $50,000, going to let you name your own, totally unique, new pet!
Galen,
I want THREE. You take PayPal, right? (or how about a cashier’s check for over the amount and you send me back the difference?)
” Devil’s_Advocate said…
Galen,
I want THREE. You take PayPal, right? (or how about a cashier’s check for over the amount and you send me back the difference?)”
Paypal, cheques, money orders, trade for 4 wheeler, boat, whatever. Sorry, no money back under any circumstances (although I’ll give you an awesome deal on a breading pair)
galen – I’ve never heard of anyone spaying a reptile before… why bother? do they have issues with becoming eggbound or something like that?
We have a serious problem with roving bands of male iguanas here in Canada.
(OK, you’re right, she became eggbound)
Yep, the knacker really is the slaughterman. And he works in the “knacker’s yard.” When we’re tired we say we’re “knackered”.
This Thompson man has chutzpah, I’ll grant him that.
Interesting to see the etymology and discover that Germans and Austrians call a spade a spade with knacker wurst.
Galen,
Well, damn it. I thought from the way you spelled “cheques” that you might be in Europe. My idea was to buy the three from you, at your pittance price of $50,000, import them, breed them, and then sell them here in the US of A for $150,000 each.
(I got that idea from the Gypsy horses)
I have two Scottish Fold cats. But their ears aren’t folded. Does that mean I get to start a new breed and call them “Scottish Unfolds”?
Well, shit. I had a female cat once who had a crooked tail. It was genetically crooked, about 4 inches total length and made an L shape about 2 inches out from her rear end.
Her mother was a feral cat who had two feral babies from a previous bunch, one of which had a straight tail, the other had the same crooked tail. Are they litters with cats? Anyway, of my cats siblings, 3 had crooked tails and 1 had a straight tail. She was also a great mother (allowing a young kitten I found at a conveniece store to “nurse” on her, until her poor little belly was raw) and a drama queen (she’d mew when she was hungry and if you asked her if she was starving to death, she’d do a weaker and weaker mew, because of “wasting” away before your eyes).
I could have sold her kittens (if she ever had any) for THOUSANDS! I wish I had known that 17 years ago when I captured her and before I got her spayed.
OOOO! OOOH! I want one of Galen’s babies.
I have available a wonderful creature. We call it a Rhodesian Ridgeback Homing Goat. He is fairly friendly, loves to climb on personal vehicles, steal horse food, butt down small children, and will not stay in any enclosure.
When happy, excited, hungry, playful, he will develop a ridge of raised hair along his spine. If given to a neighbor he will escape out of their fence, come home and get back in his fence.
He’s been castrated, but I’m sure that the vet could get him some neuticals, and you could do cloning.
He’s very cute.
He has excelant confirmation.
$12,000 through PayPal (you pay fees) and he’s yours!
Oh, forgot to add, he’s also BB gun trained. If you shake the BB gun while he is on your vehicle, he will immediately hop/slide down and return to his pen.
He’s a great yard fertilizer, you simply can’t walk outside without shoes on.
He’ll intimidate your wimpy dog and he’s friendly with cats.
(ps. the BB gun is NOT a powerful one, it’s the weakest one available and was only brought out as a last resort because he is a PITA (oops, I hope that doesn’t bring down his value!), and we only shoot him in the butt.)
Man…..this place is getting crazy….I thought that a day-old topic with this many responses meant the ass-hat subject had come by to “defend” herself. Very disappointed to see that’s not the case haha
*sigh* Sometimes I feel as though we’re all preaching to the choir. I really hope the BYBs all find this place someday and learn the error of their ways….
4Horses&Holding said…
Oh, forgot to add, he’s also BB gun trained.
I ran out into the road (luckily a low-traffic area) to see if she’d gone to visit our neighbor’s horses
Let me see if I have this straight – you shoot your goat with a BB gun (but only in the butt) because he climbs on your cars, and your mare runs loose on your property (not in a corral, with access to a road)? Are you sure you’re not fugly fodder?
FTFOTB said “Are you sure you’re not fugly fodder?”
I think I’m not. I don’t do indiscriminate breeding (or shooting of goat butts, I prefer the shake the BB gun method). Oh, yeah and you forgot to mention our pony STALLION, who we thought was a gelding, until I got that feeling. Hey – both vets that saw him said that there was no VISIBLE sign of him being a stallion. Poor badly endowed boy. He’s a gelding now, and he’d been kept separate from the horses, so I will not be having any AQHA/grade pony foals. THANK GOD!
My mare was an previously unheard of occurrence. I mean, she’d never before wander far from food. Until I get my “Christmas stalls” built, I have to bring her out of the pasture to feed her. Normally, she just wanders about the yard nibbling on grass, or looking longingly at the closed door of the shed housing her feed. I have no idea why she choose to leave that day – but rest assured, she has NOT been left unattended since, nor will she again. (Honestly, I was only in the house for about 10 minutes, and she’d just started to eat.) Typically, my horses do NOT run loose on my property. I kind of like them to stay “under control” at all times. I don’t let any of the boys run around loose in the yard, if they are in, they are being held or tied up. My old mare? Well, she’d never been a wanderer. I won’t be making that mistake again. We’ve just recently moved to this property, and our perimeter fence is one of the many things not yet completed (as are basic stalls for feeding, because we hadn’t needed any until now) We’ve got the pastures almost done (3 finished, with a 4th in progress).
Oh yeah, and it’s not a car. It’s a mini-van
He doesnt climb on the old work truck in the yard, nor does he climb on my husband’s truck.
Hmmm…. a BB gun might improve a small biting dog I know.
Nightmare said…
“Anyone know what an ‘English Shepherd’ is??”
They are, like the Aussie, an American breed with a misleading name. They’re also apparently a breed that’s managed to fly under the radar and remain 99% working, with very little visibility as a pet or show dog. The only time I’ve seen one in my very urban area of the Northeast was in a very strange independent pet store that sold all sorts of animals you do not normally see in pet stores, like racing homers, and the puppies were in crates on the floor like chickens in an auction house. Very weird atmosphere. Funny, there were other puppies from breeds I’d never heard of, but all those breeds went on to become hugely popular – all mastiff types. The English Shepherds, I’ve never seen again. People are 110% ok with their ill-considered Bavarian Mountain Bulldogge getting out and eating the neighbor’s toddler; what they really can’t tolerate is the English Shephered doing crazed laps around the house while they try to watch the big-screen. High energy is way more unacceptable than high aggression to the jackass dog buyer.
and that would be “doesn’t”.
…..and I don’t think I’m incompetent either (referencing the previous link someone made to an article on incompetent people). LOL.
and before you ask if my husband and I are just stupid, the pony was sold to him as a gelding, had no visible (at ALL) stallion parts, and he is very mellow. (imagine what a TERRIFIC gelding he’s going to be) His attitude wasn’t “studly”, it was a self-gratifying action of his that made me wonder (as I’ve NEVER seen a gelding do that).
OT: ATTENTION PLEASE!
I received an email this morning (Friday) about a SADDLEBRED rescue that needs to make room for 10-12 more ASAP, to keep them from going on the truck to Mexico.
Their email described 28 saddlebreds who have been evaluated/fostered, many of whom are suitable as lesson horses.
Also, they have available for placement one black MORGAN mare, age 19, a STANDARDBRED gelding, a 20-yr-old DRAFT gelding, and three MINIS.
I do not know anything about this rescue. They do offer to assist potential adoptors with discounted shipping/layovers. The email was sent to me by a well-connected horsewoman friend.
The link to their page did not work for me. If anyone is interested in more information, please email me at shepherdhill61@hotmail.com, and I will send you the email address of the woman who sent the email out. Thanks.
“Normally, she just wanders about the yard…
Typically, my horses do NOT run loose on my property.”
While you may not be breeding indiscriminately (which I said nothing about), I still shudder to think about any horse wandering loose in anyone’s yard, with access to a road with traffic. It doesn’t matter how good they are “typically”. It only takes one time.
FTFOTB,
Relax. It’s a very LOW traffic dirt road. No one was hurt, and because of this instance (the only time in 16 YEARS of owning this mare that’s she left the yard, although previous homes were on 150+ acres with a perimeter fence) she will NOT be left unattended while I run in to put the dumplings on top of my chicken & dumplings. Or pee, or whatever.
You have nothing to fear about my mare or animals being injured.
You may now move on to find fugly fodder elsewhere.
“Normally, she just wanders about the yard…”
That would be when she’s done eating the extra grain she is being given. She was near death last Wednesday from her liver, she wasn’t in any danger of running off anywhere, as she could barely walk. I bring her in in the morning and afternoon, feed her, medicate her, and turn her back out. Normally when she is done eating, she will graze around her bucket or walk the 15 yards to where I store the hay and nibble on that. That day I had JUST dumped her feed, she didn’t finish it (which is also unheard of), she just struck right out to the neighbors, no meandering or grazing.
Was it expected? Absolutely not, totally out of character for her.
Will it have the chance of happening again? Absolutely not.
Hi, 4Horses,
How’s your mare today?
Well, I’ve sent them my comments. Will be interesting to see if I get a response…
I have a purebred dog that came with papers and the original bill of sale that I got through a *rescue* because she was no longer “cute” and was actually work (i.e. Weimaraner in small apartment in middle of large city…hmmm, can you say “going bonkers”?). At least the original breeder had insisted she be spayed because she wasn’t breeding quality.
In my search, I came across rescues for all sorts of purebreds, so if people can surrender or dump a purebred dog they originally paid 1500-2500$ for, what chance does a mutt have?
I temporarily took in a stray puppy that a neighbor found and while we tried for several months to track down an owner, no one claimed to know him. I had trouble finding him a new home (for free) because he looked to be a Rottweiler/German Sheperd mix with huge paws and many people don’t want a large dog…as if I would have been able to get $600-1000 like these psychos are asking for!
*leaving to attend to real life (how annoying!)*
back in an hour or so
What the hell is that “Lady Geneva” Filly thing..good god thats the ugliest, biggest head I’ve EVER seen on a baby..Yuck..
OH MY GOD!!
Those are the fugliest AKC registered dogs I have ever seen!
And the story of the dog they got from a shelter (and becuase they were too stupid to train/socialize it properly) and because it was part doberman (which they should have known, being dog experts and all) ended up biting some one and somehow thats because it was a mutt?? Thats what THEY”RE breeding!!!!! OUCH, my head hurts….
4horses said, “You may now move on to find fugly fodder elsewhere.”
I don’t go looking for fugly fodder. It somehow appears out of nowhere and is difficult to ignore. TMI on a public forum is not a good idea.
Turning any of my horses loose in my yard, with access to a road (even if it IS a dirt road with little traffic) is not an option. That would be irresponsible. I think a little bit more of my horses than that to take a chance on that no matter how well behaved they are. It would only take one time for a car or dirt bike to run into a horse, and I couldn’t undo that.
Gee, looks like I’m the only one that likes the vanner stud? The trotting picture, he actually looks pretty nice, like something I would consider for the large pony division in combined driving events. Unless, that’s his 2yo pic, and the standing ones are more accurate of his neck.
If he normally moves like he’s pictured trotting, not a bad looking pony to me. Can’t say I like the breeding program, and of course am horrified at the dog/cat breeding..then again, they’d have to find something else to do if people didn’t BUY from them for goodness sake!
We’re not the only ones to be commenting/banging our heads on the desk about these puppymillers:
http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/forum/3119.aspx
Who knows, maybe the breeders (and my apologies to those who do it right for including these people with you) will take a hint.
Hahahahaaaaa! (sniff)(cough) Sorry. I’ll be OK now…
OT, but this was posted in one of the groups I’m in.
“Orchard grass square bales for sale. Barn kept, nice hay. Smells fresh and green inside.
$6.50 per bale, cash only.
We have 80 bales and prefer to sell it all at once.
Located near Charlottesville, Va.
sue
540 832 7175″
Just in case anyone nearby could use hay.
According to the BYB’s website, they have a foal “out of” their stud. I guess he has even more biological mysteries going on than his conformation suggests.
Some days I wished I lived where hairy Cobs are common. I’d probably have a pasture full of them (gelded and mares only) rather than the Percheron, QH, and Paint show that we have going on currently.
Starrynightxxi, I have now sent that link to every intelligent person I know. I am sure they will enjoy!
This feature had me so worked up last night that I couldn’t get to sleep. I was laying in bed and realized that I too could have had a gold mine. I have an EXTREMELY rare Wire-haired Borottollier (Border Collie, Wire-haired terrier, Rottweiler). If I crossed him with my dalmation I could have had SPOTTED Wire-Haired Borottolliers!!! Too bad they are both neutered males. Pfft.
And if you pronounced it “Borotell-yay” like with a French accent, I bet you could add another $100 just because it sounds fancy or exotic! LOL
See, by neutering them and owning two males, you are losing out on money you could be making!! Got to keep those females so they push out puppies, don’t you know!
LOL! That is exactly how my mind was pronouncing it. I was thinking that $1500 wouldn’t be too much to ask. Add on more if I decide to get them tested for anything, any vet care, or actually feed them.
Next time I’ll make sure I get a female and not have her ‘spaded’.
And I quote from their rube website where they also like cars and bow hunting…:
“I could not imagine a life without animals! I really love baby animals being born and raising them.
If I ever have spare time, I like to Oil Paint & gardening.”
Nice sentence there….
OK, you’re just stupid.
Here is the link to their horse-and-puppymill website:
Dakota Winds Inbred Family Operating A PuppyMill
[i]Why the hell would ANYONE think a QH belongs crossed with draft? [/i]
Actually, I have known several qh/Percheron crosses that have turned out quite nice! Including my own
What a coincidence, just yesterday I was ranting about puppy ads in the local classifieds.
“Purebred puggles ready for Xmas. $450″
What. The. Hell.
sandy m. – that is so cool, especially meeting the duke’s head huntsman. i’ve always wanted to check out badminton in person….i like the long format much better than the short that is becoming ubiquitous. i take it you event?
Sally,
My mare is hanging in there. She’s just not very peppy, and generally doesn’t look WELL. On the brighter side (is there one?), she’s gaining a little bit of weight, and still has a good appetite. We’re just waiting for the results of the second blood test so we can compare them and see what’s going on in there.
FTFOTB – Yes, you must be right (as always). I guess I shouldn’t have animals. Maybe I’ll take them all to the auction and sell ‘em for pennies so that they can be someone’s steak. Especially the older mare with liver problems. Why should I put any more money into her, even if she recovers, she’ll probably never be much “use” anymore.
===NOT. She’s given me a fantastic 16 years of her life. I don’t care if she spends the next 20 years hanging out in the pasture looking pretty (as long as she’s not in pain). The other horses are safe from the slaughter truck, also.
(I know this is wasted “breath”, but our house & yard are nowhere near the road, it’s not like she only had to walk 20 feet and be on the wide open road. Since she hasn’t moved faster than a slow, shuffling walk in the last three weeks and had a full bucket of “dinner” in front of her, I wasn’t at all worried about her leaving, making her way all around the goat’s pasture, through the tree line, down the hill, and across the dirt road to my neighbor’s house in the 10 minutes I was in the house. I guess I’m just an irresponsible horse owner to you. But, you know what – I really don’t give a shit what you think of me. I get the impression that very FEW people can live up to your standards of perfection.)
Oh, yeah – and I went out to feed her this morning in SLIP ON SANDALS (and I didn’t even brush my hair first!).
Call the FHotD police to come get me!
And, BTW, I was being facetious when I said “Typically, my horses do NOT run loose on my property.” You know, understatement – humor – sarcasm?
Blogger Kirri said…
“Oh My GOD!!!!!!
WHAT are those cartoon kids DOING to that Snowman on the “Windswept ” site!!!
That should be reported to the child pornography brigade- I do NOT have “that sort” of mind and even I can see it.
Go take a GOOD look!!!”
The snowman seems to be enjoying it. ~chuckle~ I never even saw it that way until you mentioned it and I went back to look. It does seem somewhat… odd.
After working in a grooming shop for too long, I had a feeling the “comfort retrievers” were Cocker/Golden mixes.
The designer breed shit makes me sick. There have been far too many people buying mutts for thousands of dollars, when all they have to do is go to a shelter and pick one up for a nominal fee. The fact that these people think they are “creating new breeds” is horrifying. And that they think they know ANYTHING about breeding dogs. Leave the science experiments to people with degrees, please!
The latest I’ve seen in my area are “Teddy Bears.” Everytime someone called and wanted to make an appointment for their teddy bear, I said, “And what, exactly, is a teddy bear?” Even after I knew. I wanted them to know that they have a mutt and maybe they would realize it after listing off the 5 different breeds that went into making it! Wishful thinking. It took a lot of willpower to not say, “I’m sorry, we don’t groom inaminate children’s toys here. Thank you, have a nice day.” Click. Intentionally bred dogs should not have more “ingredients” than my dinner. I could go on about this for hours, so I’m cutting myself off.
And that Gypsy? Good GOD. I know you aren’t a fan of them, fugly, along with many of the people who read and post, but I promise I know people with Gypsies that are breeding quality. And they look nothing like that…thing on their page.
Can I just say I hate goats. *shudder* I had one ONCE. I’d rather remove my liver with a dull spoon than have another of the noisy, dirty, obnoxious, troublemaking creatures on my property.
OT, but 4horses and FFOTB reminded me.
HorsePoor said…
Can I just say I hate goats. *shudder* I had one ONCE. I’d rather remove my liver with a dull spoon than have another of the noisy, dirty, obnoxious, troublemaking creatures on my property.
Ah, hell. You can have a few. They’re good weed eaters…if they cause any trouble or climb on your vehicles, just shoot ‘em with a BB gun. Make sure you hit ‘em in the butt, though. You’ll probably only have to do that once, ’cause you’ll only have to shake the gun for the noise next time. They’ll learn it.
I guess I’m just an irresponsible horse owner to you. But, you know what – I really don’t give a shit what you think of me. I get the impression that very FEW people can live up to your standards of perfection.)
You’re right. I don’t give a shit other than for the welfare of the horses. And you’re absolutely right about not very many people living up to my standard of perfection. Someone has to raise the bar and expect more…and it might as well be me.
Ugh, these people kill me. Why oh why do people do things like that? Why? Those poor mares… and what I wonder is, how did they afford a Gypsy at the current outrageous prices? Are there that many idiots out there buying their puppies? I have two feral, but neutered barn cats (put a carrier out in the barn, tie a string to the door so you can close it… put food in it for a couple of weeks, and eventually walla! Captured kitty!) that are both so odd looking I apparently missed a profitable business! Two spayed and neutered humane society rescued dogs and three indoor spayed or neutered humane society cats! I am even considering having my mare spayed so that if I ever do decide to sell her, her conformation flaws won’t be passed on. I see this ignorance so often it really has me puzzled. I guess what I saw in Idiocracy really does have the possibility to exist in the near future. Eduction people… educate yourselves, it IS the answer.
So, today I came across this ad in the local Craigslist…
“I have over 20 horses ranging from 2yrs to 6 years old. Prices range from 250-650$ trained or not. Some are broke to ride, some have had 10 rides, some have been saddled, they are all halter broke, mostly barn raised so they are tame. Some registered some are not. Sizes are good muscular build but not real tall. Most of them range from 14-15 hands but there are a few over 15 hands. I have geldings, mares, and one stud. There are to many to list with pictures. If you are looking for a horse please call and I will tell you what I have, based on what you tell me your looking for as far as age, color, sex, and training. The prices will be ranging from $250 to $650 Trained or not. If you would like to work a trade we will try and work with that however we do not wish to trade a horse for a horse. If you would like to buy a horse and want it trained, we are willing to sell it slightly cheaper if you would like to hire us to train it for you. If you would like to buy one and need a quick tune up for the horse we are willing to put 2 weeks free training into the horse in order to get it sold to you. You can contact me by e-mail however, I will not respond to questions asked that are already answered in this ad. Please feel free to contact me if you are truely looking for a horse to buy or trade. We are willing to hold the horse till the start of the new year for those wishing to give a christmass gift. We will sell the horses even cheaper if you buy more than one.
(530) 378-0535
If you are from out of the redding area and don’t want to make the drive and spend gas money in order to see a horse your not sure about, please call me and we can talk about what your looking for. Then I can take a picture of the one’s I think come close to what your looking for and send it to your e-mail address.
thanks for looking”
Ugh, what the hell? Did those horses magically appear? All of a sudden we realize we have too many horses to feed at $200+ a ton for grass hay? Um, hay has been around that for two years now… really, we did have some warning. But what I really like is the offer to sell the horse for less if you want them to train it! Well, at least the spelling and grammer isn’t too bad. But still… how do you get horses that you, as the breeder of them, believe are only worth $250 “trained or not”? *sigh*
In the holiday spirit and for a pick-me-up… there is this wonderful ad too:
“HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE. MY BUSINESS PARTNER (COWGIRL-UP RANCH) AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER UP 3 SEPERATE RIDING LESSONS/SESSIONS AS A CHRISTMAS GIFT TO A CHILD WHO DREAMS OF HAVING A HORSE BUT WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO OWN ONE. WE WILL READ ALL EMAILS RECEIVED BY 12-20-07 AND LET THOSE KNOW IF THEY WERE CHOOSEN ON THE 21ST. WE WILL PRINT OUT A CERTIFICATE AND BRING IT BY TO BE PUT UNDER THE TREE FOR CHRISTMAS. THE CERTIFICATES WILL BE FOR 6 FREE LESSONS/SESSIONS OF ONE HOUR A PIECE. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO SUPPLY TRANSPORTATION WE CAN WORK THAT OUT. SO SEND US AN EMAIL AND LET US KNOW HOW MUCH THIS WOULD MEAN TO YOUR CHILD OR CHILD YOU KNOW. PLEASE, ONLY THOSE CHILDREN WHO CAN NOT AFFORD LESSONS ON THEIR OWN. JESSIE JASPERSE AND MELISSA NESBITT”
Good for you Jessie and Melissa!!! Way to show some Christmas spirit!
FTFOTB, You are a most insufferable ass.
Like I said, the BB gun is a very weak one (actually it says on the box that it can be shot in a house with a sheet or curtain for a backdrop). It does not even raise a welt, ESPECIALLY through a goat’s hairy butt from 25 yards away. We got the stupid BB gun as a present for our son, who uses it to shoot at cans (and CocaCola cans, because we aren’t beer drinkers!). As HorsePoor said, goats are a pain in the ass. They can be very difficult to keep contained, especially as they listen for the clicking of the electric fence charger and jump through their 8 strand fence in between clicks. I specified shooting at the butt, because we are very careful not to shoot towards their faces and their eyes. And, yes, they are pretty smart animals, and they DO learn to run back to their pen when they hear the BB’s rattle. It’s not like I set all my horse’s free in the yard and then sit down in my chair with a beer (or two) and have myself a good ol’ time shooting goats in the ass.
You must be a very bitter woman.
I take very good care of my animals, they are all (except for the old one) in very good condition, healthy, and happy. I resent you insinuating differently.
Have a lovely day. I have seen repeatedly that you can not let a subject drop and, therefore, I am dropping this one for you. Carry on making your comments about my “animal abusive” & neglectful ways, enjoy.
If I could afford another horse I would upgrade that poor, (maybe road foundered), arab mare. She looks sweet tempered and deserves better after 20+ years of service.
Of course they won’t take her to a vet or even have a farrier look at her to see if it is founder, bruising, or abcesses. As for the stallions the cob would make a nice gelding but the morgan…I thought the breed was supposed to be short coupled???
Have a lovely day. I have seen repeatedly that you can not let a subject drop and, therefore, I am dropping this one for you. Carry on making your comments about my “animal abusive” & neglectful ways, enjoy.
It’s funny how you resort to name calling (which I never did), and you go on and on, making excuses, etc. And you accuse me of not dropping a subject. LOL. I never said a word about you breeding, drinking beer, or even your stallion or your goat, etc. I only responded to your own comments about your horse being loose, and looking out in the road for her, and your comment about needing materials to “contain” your horses. I just found that unbelievable, and commented on it. You’re the one who is going on and on and on…I could care less about all the other things you keep bringing up. I feed my horses in their stalls, so I found it strange to have to turn them loose in the yard to feed them.
I figured out a long time ago, on many comment pages ago that you were “different” (I’m trying to be nice here). I guess if you don’t breed, that’s a good thing. I’m sorry you have a sick horse. I don’t wish that upon anyone, and really, it had nothing to do with my comments to you. And neither did your stallion. Or your goat. But you can keep digging if you want to; I won’t stop you. LOL.
On the subject of naming “new” breeds, the one that annoys me is the Drum Horse. A drum horse is a horse that carries the drums in a mounted military band (such as the Queen’s Household Cavalry). They use a certain type, by tradition, and it can be identified by (drum roll here please!) the drums on it! It is kind of like raising $500 German Shepherds and marketing them as $2500 Seeing Eye Dogs. Like a trail horse. Or a show horse. Or a race horse. Or a circus horse.
Oh, I like Dnazer! What a beautiful old girl. I wish I could get her!!!
Also, Fugs, a belated note of sympathy on the loss of Lacy. She seems to have been a wonderful girl and lucky to have you for her owner/
I had never heard of this “teddybear” breed before. so… I looked it up. this is from the first website that came up for me in google:
Dirty Paw’s Teddybears are excellent first time dog owner dogs. They litter box train in 2 weeks. Your friends and relatives will get sick of you bragging about your Dirty Paw’s Teddybear! You will want another!
They mature between 8-16 lbs. $950 – $1,500,
deposits to reserve are nonrefundable.
Shipping Available via airlines or hand-delivered.
Serious Inquiries Only.
Dirty Paws Teddybears are a combination of the following:
Sires are Shih Tzu, Dams are Toy Poodle & Bichon Frise crosses.
No Terriers, no hyper Toys used in the mix.
*cries*
That list of dogs is certainly . . .well. For one thing, the original Bulldogge was an attempt to breed the modern Bulldog back to the less exaggerated and more practical animal seen in Elizabethan art, hence the spelling. So what would a Miniature Bulldogge be good for?
A Comforter Retriever, OTOH, might be an interesting project if it were the sole project and undertaken with great care (and plenty of money). A Comforter is a breed of miniaturized spaniel, such as a Cavalier King Charles. The old Comforters probably were not nearly as inbred as the modern breeds because their owners hadn’t heard of Victorian eugenics. I wonder what a Comforter Retriever created in the same way that the Elizabethan (or earlier) fanciers created the tiny spaniel breeds would look like.
Speaking of tiny things, here’s a question I’ve been pondering: How small can a miniature horse be and still be as sound as a full-sized horse?
fatchick said…
“My brother’s asshat neighbors got a Great Dane. It was about 30lbs more than the breed standard and they got rid of it because it was too big for them. Mind you, they never intended to show it. Instead they ended up with a 180lb dog instead of a 150lb dog and that was reason enough to send it to the dog pound.”
I had a foster out of a similar situation. Why are so many people always shocked to discover Great Dane puppies grow into big dogs? Apparently *Great* isn’t clear enough for them.
Maybe we should change the names of dog breeds to reflect the qualities people seem to miss. Great Dane can be “You Could Saddle Me & Ride Me to Work”, Pits can be “90% Chance of Being Euthanased Before Age 5″. I could introduce my Border Collie as a “If You Don’t Discipline Your Children, My Dog Will.”
Teddy Bear dogs? Oh lord.
Can I start a new breed, too? I want to create the Fluffy-Snuggles dog.
We rescued a dog who had been abandoned for about a month at a farm. Took him to the vet where he had maggots under his fur. He had to be put under to clean him up because of his screaming.. Got him cleaned up, he woke up, and spent the weekend at the vet’s. They all loved his sweet-heared attitude.
They guessed he might be a Lhasa Apso and/or Shih Tzu crossed something.
He’s white with some grayish hair on part of the ears and curled tail. His coat is fluffy soft, he doesn’t shed. When he barks, he howls first. His back legs are incredibly long and turn out at odd angles when he runs. Weighs 14 pounds and loves going outside.
He’s snuggly, he’s VERY fluffy, and his name is Munchkin. Let’s start a new breed with the Munchers as the foundation sire!
Did I mention he’s fluffy?
Comforter Retriever? Would that be a dog who brings you your slippers when you are sitting in front of the fireplace on a cold winter evening? And if you crossed it with an Afghan, it would bring you a quilt as well! Then cross the result with a St Bernard, so it would bring you some brandy, and you’re all set! Except it is a big dog. Anybody have something that I can cross it with to make a smaller, but still very comfortable dog?
Athena said…
http://tinyurl.com/2dqkxg
I want one!!
Nightmare, I’m just guessing here,but could it be The “manners” of a Duchess???
Teddy Bear dogs and Ragdoll cats. Both are basically retarded or “mentally challenged,” if you prefer PC speak.
They are for people who want to spend a bunch of money on a pet that doesn’t do anything except lie on the couch and look cute. Fewer problems that way, ya’ know?
Horsepoor- what the heck are you doing here when you’re taking the side of “grade” breeders on that horsetopia thread on rescues???? :0/ http://forum.horsetopia.com/showthread.php?p=1007419&posted=1#post1007419
I’m not a member at horsetopia.
My bad! Appologies.
4Horses&Holding said…
FTFOTB, You are a most insufferable ass.
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I was sort of thinking the same thibg but with a “c”!
My3Arabs said…
4Horses&Holding said…
FTFOTB, You are a most insufferable ass.
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I was sort of thinking the same thibg but with a “c”!
This is hilarious. Just like FHOTD says…put it out on the internet for everyone to see and read, and you’re gonna get called out on it. Just because you attempt to read and post on FHOTD doesn’t mean you’re not asshats and aren’t going to get called out. (I’ll bet “windswept” has a few sick animals, too. Does that mean they are immune to critcism?). The only reason I said something is there are a lot of young people reading this blog. I wouldn’t want them to think it’s perfectly ok to turn a horse loose in their yard who had access to a public road, or that it’s ok to shoot animals with a BB gun. I tried to be nice and I didn’t call you any names, but you’re too ignorant to understand. So is your “me too” friend.
Emilia, I believe you may be right, at least it sounds like what I remember. I’ve had a quick scan of my older books and can’t find it..yet.
Tried googling and can only find ref to the head and backside, no Duchess.
If this link works, you should be able to see a ‘show cob’ with a brief description of the standard…
http://www.theshowring.co.uk/cobs.php
Thanks to those that enlightened me on the ‘English’ Shepherd, I honestly thought it was some kind of collie X ( possibly Border), we see many of similar type over here and that’s how they’re usually described, thanks for the info
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By the way, the BSHC&RHA is now known as the BSHA..British Show Horse Assoc.
FTFOTB,LMAO,I have to agree with you on this one. 4horses&holding did leave herself wide open for snark by giving way to much information about her animal handling techniques. FTFOTB, as for you being insufferable…Well guess the truth can be that, and I believe your attackers are not reading what they are writing or they would see the idiocy of their own words.
forthefutureofthebreed,
I don’t care what you think of me or what names you want to call me. You have proven that you have nothing worth while for me to pay attention to!
My3Arabs said…
forthefutureofthebreed,
I don’t care what you think of me or what names you want to call me. You have proven that you have nothing worth while for me to pay attention to!
I’m really sorry to hear that.