For anyone totally mystified by what a quality horse looks like…
Nov 21 2007
Here you go! Holiday special on Craigslist. I am sure it is just adorable. And it is supposed to look like a yak! 
Baby Yak
Reply to: sale-485330322@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-11-20, 10:33PM
Lilly is a beautiful, 6-month-old baby female yak that is exceptionally friendly from bottle feeding and handling. Well bred from a great bull and mother. Will only sell to qualified buyer.
Location: Issaquah
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in many of the youtube vids of the Arabian shows that, the Arabs have their noses pulled in towards their chest now! They aren’t carrying their heads vertical anymore.
Only really crappy Arab showers do this. Ever since they made running AND standing martingales legal in practically every class, a lot of trainers have replaced training with S&M.
I may be biased, but I honestly think that Arabians have one of the most beautiful natural carriages in the horse world. Why mess with perfection?
My friend and I just pulled her ultra-green 4 year old out of the pasture, where he’s been king-of-the-universe for the past three weeks. She hopped on with a loose rein and picked up some walk-trot in the snow…her guy could have been in an open equitation class. Beautifully rounded neck, head right on the vertical…we were having a bit of trouble bringing him really forward, but to the untrained eye, he was pretty as a picture.
Arabians that are properly trained to use themselves and are being ridden correctly DO NOT over bend at the poll.
SpottedDreams said…
Crunchberry’s Mom -
It was longer ago than I care to admit and I could be off on color…thinking though that there was at least one buckskin that caught the name…her sire would have been Tulsa Time Dude. Now that the gear’s are turning…I want to say the mare might have been buckskin also and named Captains Crunchberry or something similar…jeeze…hard on the old brain trying to remember those things. But yes, I did go to Berry
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! my mares dad is Tulas and her mom was Captains Crunch! it HAS to be the same mare!AND she was born at BERRY!!!
*Tulsa LOL i got so excited i typed really quickly and badly!
tierra, just e-mail or call, and request the Versatility rule book, it has everything, for both the competitor and the person running the classes.
g810grl posted:
“there is a certain amount of contact needed to set the head to gait, no matter which bit is used”
Sorry to disagree, but NO, NO, NO!`
The gait is natural, and inherited. (or should be!) It is not the result of gimmicks or rider interference.
I ride (and start under saddle) gaited horses, entirely bitless. And I don’t crank back on their heads in any way.
Like all good riding, the aids should focus on the rear, on engaging the hinds, and on forward impulsion.
“Head set” comes with maturity, impulsion, and athletic development of the topline to enable the horse to have self-carriage.
Ramener is the same, in a trotting dressage horse, or a gaited horse, doing a rack.
Good riders do not “ride on their pockets.” They ride in a balanced natural seat, and the horse appreciates that, while gaiting.
Sorry, you sound like you have a humane mind-set about the gaited horses, yay, but you’re also perpetuating some of the old myths.
Tierra, understood, on the permission thing. And it’s respectful of you, so cool. It is good, though, to hear more details on their “natural wins.”
bluewillow….you said..”Sorry, you sound like you have a humane mind-set about the gaited horses, yay, but you’re also perpetuating some of the old myths.” i don’t feel they are old myths…just training methods that differ from yours and work for me.
“Good riders do not “ride on their pockets.” They ride in a balanced natural seat, and the horse appreciates that, while gaiting.”…you may be picturing the exaggerated posture seen in showing. the posture i am talking about is very subtle, and is not noticeable unless you know what you’re looking for. i have a rocky cross, have owned him for 12 years now. he paces at liberty, and riding slightly “on my pockets” helps him stay in his gait. i have owned a few gaited horses, and worked my share, and different horses require different riding postures. there’s nothing wrong in my opinion with changing your posture slightly to aid the horse in his gait. and yes, i am balanced.
“Sorry to disagree, but NO, NO, NO!”:)”I ride (and start under saddle) gaited horses, entirely bitless. And I don’t crank back on their heads in any way.” yes, yes, yes….you can ride in a bit without “cranking a horse’s mouth! i have had horses for many years, and have never “cranked” on a mouth yet….riding with light contact requires knowledge and skill, cranking does not. a well trained horse will respond to the twitch of a little finger, it is no more inhumane or an interference than the bitless bridle, which by the way, i have used, and like very much. i have also ridden in a bosal, and a hack, and a halter and leads. it’s in the hands, and if you have good hands, you can ride with any head gear on your horse, and yes….with a bit.
“Like all good riding, the aids should focus on the rear, on engaging the hinds, and on forward impulsion.
“Head set” comes with maturity, impulsion, and athletic development of the topline to enable the horse to have self-carriage.”…i agree to a certain extent. the horse must be in the correct frame to maintain his impulsion, and use of the bit helps maintain that frame. again…good hands are a must, and are the difference between the bit as an aid, and as an inhumane instrument. i have the knowledge to use it as an aid.
“The gait is natural, and inherited. (or should be!) It is not the result of gimmicks or rider interference.”…again we agree. some feel the saddle is a gimmick. there are those who feel that as soon as you put rider to horse back you cause interference. there are those who feel that a shod horse (i’m talking regular shoes) is a horse interfered with. and, yes, there are those who feel a horse who is bitted is a horse interfered with. are they wrong? not necessarily. am i wrong? not necessarily. are you wrong? not necessarily. in my years in the horse world, i have found that there is no one “right” training method. there is no one true belief. and some “old myths” are actually based in fact, and if you do your homework, you can use them today with success. every person is different, every horse is different. i learn new things every day. i keep an open mind, and respect those opinions that are different than mine. i’m not out to change anyone, but if something i do helps them, great. thanks for your opinions, and continued good luck with your training methods.
Depending on what I can find…I may have some old pictures of her as a baby. I had a Tulsa baby for years, she was my Breaking and Training baby and my husband bought her for me when I was done. I have her daughter now. Let me see what I can find. What year was your mare born? I was trying to remember what the barn name was for her momma…she didn’t go by Captain Crunch! But I am pretty sure she was the little buckskin mare…
she was foaled in 92. holler if you find any pics of her, i’d be THRILLED to see them!