Yak Attack!
Oct 30 2007
While I freely admit it’s not my favorite cross, it is possible to breed a nice looking, athletic Quarab.
Sadly, that did not happen here. Here’s the description:
“Ginger is a cutie and very gentle. She was a late fall baby, she is a little over 5 months old. So she is very young.! She has Arabian in her. She would be an excellent 4h project or something to do in your spare time. She is a chestnut, she could be darker when she sheds out too! She has a darker red main and tail. For only $150, this is a horse for anything you want her to be. For you, grandkids, or your own children. She is very tame too! Email for more information or pictures!”
Where do I even start? First of all, who breeds for late fall? That breeding has “that gol-darn colt, we just can’t keep ‘im in the fence!” written all OVER it. Secondly, could this critter be ANY worse put together? Holy crap, she has virtually no hip, no butt, shortest croup ever, she’s got a stumpy neck, she’s back at the knees, and she’s got a fugly head. There’s no way the parents were much better. Finally, everything in these pictures looks like it needs a good deworming.
I am going to assume this was an accidental breeding and give the person the benefit of the doubt that she did not produce this on purpose. Here’s what may be a news flash for some of you: Even when there is an accidental breeding, all you have to do is give them a shot and prevent a foal like this from happening. It is not rocket science. Even if you don’t do that right away, a vet can pinch off the embryo at any time in the first few months. There is no excuse anymore for a filly you have to sell for $150 to be born in the first place.
However, now that she is here, you might want to talk to these folks and try to get her a job. She will fit right in, and hell, you can’t beat the price!
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I’d give ya a buck fifty for the Yak. It looks like it has at least been broke to do something!
Do the horses in the background have halters, with leads on?
Oy. Another sign of good horsemanship – look at the horses in the background, all dragging lead ropes. The yak is actually cuter than the horse.
I thought the moldy round bales were a nice touch, those lucky babies!
I noticed the leads too, and wondered if they are leads or if these babies are staked out… I figured our fearless leader would have pointed out the later if it were the case.
Fuzzy babies are cute. Even when they’re fugly – kind of like most babies (animals, people, birds).
My first response is “oooohhhh, a little baby” then I can pick her apart for the conformational issues…. then my last thought is “ooooohhhhhh, a baby!”
I’m a sucker for baby horses. and kittens, and puppies, and bunnies, squirrels………
…. but I don’t indiscriminately breed for them.
I should have pointed her out to the Dalai Lama when he was in town. He could have dropped her off in Mongolia on his way home. I bet they would love her.
“She has a darker red main and tail.”
Yuk (or is that Yak?). WHY are they all so illiterate?
>>WHY are they all so illiterate?< <
I don’t know, but I guess it kind of explains their inability to educate themselves about conformation and responsible breeding.
Sure you could have given the mare a shot to abort or pinched it off, but to do that you would have to actually know that whe was bred by the nieghbors stallion…..
She would have needed to be checked by a vet and ultra sounded.
Bet they didn’t know this one was coming until the mare actually foaled…they just thought that mare was such an easy keeper!!
I have to say that this is most likely the pony I would bring home just because I felt sorry for it. Good job I have no land or money as I think I would have hundreds that I have looked at and thought “the poor thing lets take it home”
Looks purposefully bred to me, look at all the other babies all about the same age in the back ground.
Either that or That Damned Colt got out and had one HELL of a good time.
I like the yak. It’s pretty.
I think someone is holding the lead in the 2nd picture – - you can see the hand on the very left side of the picture. They probably had leads on all the horses because they are probably selling them all and wanted to get these fantabulous pictures. Out with the old, in with the new herd! And not for a minute do I believe this filly was an accident, I bet they bred a mare to some colored something-or-other and are disappointed that this SORREL filly doesn’t have any spots.
Actually if she is part Arab it is correct to call her chestnut. Arabians don’t have a sorrel. Not that I would want to claim her at all to be an arab, but if those people are arab people then sorrel is not in their vocabulary.
Trying to google some of the ad words (to find the original) and came across these……
1. You’d think, if you were asking $3500 for a horse, you’d try for a better picture. (*Unless you don’t actually WANT people to be able to see his conformation. His croup is the opposite of an Arabian’s!) $3500, safe for Papaw
2. Sigh, I hope her back legs aren’t really that screwed up. Is she Impressive bred? $400, out of a Vibrant Cherokee stallion
3. Mama must not have very good back legs. Same dam as #2. SOLD!
4. Nice front end. Funky back legs (maybe it’s in the water). Daddy is one of those well-named horses Jets Star Cash Bar – Wow! Maybe it’s Easy Jet! Skippa Star! Dash for Cash! Three Bars! Are they actually anywhere on his pedigree?
Okay, I’ve got to get kids ready for bed, and there are SO many more from this same person….. have fun! I especially love the red roan with the yellow SMBs on.
Edited to add:
Oops. Supposed to read for #4 -
Nice front end (if you don’t look at her legs).
The definition of “sorrel” depends on where you live. My local definition is a red horse with a lighter mane and tail, though other parts mean sorrel as a red chestnut. Better off just sticking to chestnut when referring to them.
That foal is adorable in an overly furry stuffed animal kind of way.
Oh I completely understand that different parts of the country call sorrel different things. I am from Ohio, but live in Texas and in Ohio sorrel was anything reddish colored. Here in Texas I’ve heard them call EVERYTHING sorrel except what I would call a liver chestnut (darker to chocolate brown with lighter mane and tail). It is very regional, but what isn’t regional is arabians being called sorrel. It is not a color on their papers or even offered on the papers. That was my only point with my comment earlier. If this person isn’t a QH or Paint person then sorrel is not something they would use on a regular basis. I have alot of trouble with calling things sorrel since I come from an arabian horse background.
That Jet Stars Cash Bar has a website:
The lovely Quarter Paint Ranch!
http://quarterpaintranch.homestead.com/indexQUARTERPAINTRANCH.html
Both stallions would be FINE entrants into the Impressive Eukanuba Bars Futurity!
How ’bout this filly they have for sale? Yikes, I wonder if her front legs really do point in opposite directions?!
http://tinyurl.com/yr4ztq
Or another get of JSCB, look at the gross stringy hip on this colt! Looks like the half arab filly that was posted!
http://tinyurl.com/2dlaed
Ah, no wonder! Look at this fugged up broodmare! GOOD LAWRD!
http://tinyurl.com/28rlpm
Or the looooong back on this one! YIKES!
http://tinyurl.com/2bg6dp
Does JSCB have a super straight shoulder or what?
1st broodmare you posted looks like an example of why short, heavy people shouldn’t wear capri pants – with the two white socking on the very short front legs, it just makes it look worse.
Jet Star Cash Bar – it does kind of have a nice ring to it, like a rhythm, ya know? Jet Star Cash Bar, Jet Star Cash Bar….. Oh, I must be dopey from the Excedrin I took earlier.
What is a socking? Maybe I meant to write STOCKINGS. Not to mention how downhill she is and ….. I could go on and on.
ignoring the sea of the conformationally challenged (which even I can see, and that’s saying something), I had the same reaction to the studs name.
You liked the rhythm of it too?
I don’t call horses sorrel based on where you are. I base it on breed. Doesn’t matter if you live in Wyoming, CA, Florida, or Rhode Island, in arabs, they are chestnuts, anyone calling it otherwise isn’t basing it off of breed standards.
I’m sorry. I don’t want to encourage Ginger’s irresponsible breeder, but she is cute -in a fugly sort of way. Fuzzy cute, huggable cute. I would take her home myself just to get her wormed and groomed and give the poor dear half a chance. $150 is just inviting another nitwit no-brain backyard breeder to take her home and get her knocked up before she’s 2 years old! Oh, and don’t forget – never ever train her so you can be sure she’ll end up on the killer’s truck by the age of 10.
Now, the yak – that’s cute too! I love its star! But it doesn’t have the “huggability” factor for me.
HOLY JINGLE BELLS!
I’ve never, EVER seen a butt that small!
Is it just me, or are butts getting smaller and smaller?
(oh, I meant horse butts, not people butts)
Actually, bar none, the very, very best horse I EVER owned was a QH x Arab cross. She was not beautiful. She ended up with a plainish QH head and neck, and a low quality Arab butt. And the &^%&%$ previous owner had branded her very poorly on the “butt cheek” next to her tain. She was not beautiful… just a plain sorrel mare — and we bought her very cheaply at a horse sale. We rode her for several years, and enjoyed the heck out of her, before selling her on to a wonderful family as a trail horse, which she TRULY excelled at. Man do I ever regret selling her…
Today’s FHOTD victim? Honestly? Doesn’t look that bad to me. Sure, she’s not at the top of the heap, but an awful lot of what is unattractive about her is hair, and we don’t judge horses by hair. She could use some groceries and some regular worming, and she’s probably never going to be a world beater, but I’ve sure seen a lot worse.
Actually, the only quarab I’ve ever met is quite pretty, but that’s besides the point…
I agree with gretchen that while this horse isn’t top quality, she’s far from the worst ever seen here. However, I think the point of all this is in the very last sentence of the entry;
“There is no excuse anymore for a filly you have to sell for $150 to be born in the first place.”
Geez, I am having a hell of a time getting the urls to work right.
This is my best horse who was HA. She passed away in 2001 at 25 yrs old. She had a club hoof and was a lil rough to ride at times but we always had a blast. She was bred once and her foal is now a useful ranch horse.
She is 9 in this pic.
http://tinyurl.com/2jdpfv
She is 4 here, and yes she was trained to ground tie.
http://tinyurl.com/3b23ou
She is 24 here and she passed away 7 months after this pic was taken. Sad and sudden.
http://tinyurl.com/34fl9l
I wish that I could find another like her.
Well, that half-quarterhorse mare is a sorrel where I’m from. I’m just ignoring their claim that she’s part Arabian.
If you could see my 5 month old foals you guys would scream fugly too! lol! They are certainly going through that stage where I want to hide them behind the barn. Can we really look at the conformation of a baby and know what they are going to grow into? Btw…my foals have bellies like that foal too, and they have been dewormed properly 3 times since I bought them a few months ago. Some babies just get a pot belly. Not saying that’s whats going on with the foal pictured, but it could be.
The fuzzy foal is cute, but she also looks like one of those shipwrecked-on-an-island horse breeds.
That looks like straw to me…
Then again I could just be used to our very grassy pretty green hay.
That really is a good looking yak.
The baby is fugly, but man she sure has foal cute going for her.
I’d buy her and two of her companions. I am in need of a horse or three. I have the time and the money to take proper care of them and train them up right. They would never be bred and they would have a blast, hopefully, on the trails when old enough.
angel with a broken halo, picking up on your horse shopping comment – I do not know horse people in Twin Falls, though I have heard of the people you mentioned. If you’re willing to look in the Boise area, here is a website for a local horse broker. http://www.horse-cents-idaho.com/forsale.html
I bought my endurance mare through her. Good luck!
angel, your old mare was surely the cutest old mare alive
Did she look like poor fugly little baby when she was young?
susan, thanks for the link I will go and check it out.
Ann..I have no idea what she looked like as a foal. The ppl that I got her from bought her as a 2 yr old. My grandparents had their pasture right behind her owners so I drooled over her for yrs before she was actually mine.
>>Can we really look at the conformation of a baby and know what they are going to grow into? < <
Not 100%. But certain things don’t change much. That baby is not going to grow up and develop a beautiful hip or a long, elegant neck. The structure just isn’t there. Not gonna happen.
Things like the potbelly? Sure. That can resolve, particularly with good nutrition and deworming. My 7 month old has a potbelly too – the vet says this is common with orphans and he’ll grow out of it. I sure hope so. He looks like the world’s only 7 month old pregnant colt.
I agree with everybody who wants to just take her and feed her and deworm her…I think all good horsepeople have those impulses. The problem is there are about 3,000 of those out there for every one of us with the knowledge to fix them up. And I don’t think I’m exaggerating.
Horses like this make me sad. I guess it’s good to know that the lions and tigers won’t go hungry anytime too soon….
fugly, what is it about orphans that they are prone to potbellies? Is it less resistance to worms, or something else? I cared for an orphan colt for a few months and he developed a big pot belly. The vet ended up having to give him a huge dose of dewormer to get rid of the colony in his gut despite the fact that he was regularly wormed. Meanwhile none of the other babies born at that farm have ever had such an extensive problem.
This CHESTNUT (I have yet to see “sorrel” as the definition of ee) has cute little refined ears and nice enough eye with decent width between them and tapers to a finer muzzle, might even have a little dish. It’s just hairy. Not overwhelmingly beautiful by any means, but a little above average.
Other than the head, well, I can’t find much nice to say.
Can we really look at the conformation of a baby and know what they are going to grow into?
Some of us can. I have looked at enough newborns that I can tell you which ones are going to be good and which ones are GREAT at 10 minutes of age.
>>fugly, what is it about orphans that they are prone to potbellies? Is it less resistance to worms, or something else?< <
Yup! I learned that with this one. According to my vet, orphans have VERY poor resistance to worms. We have had to deworm the crap, ha ha literally, out of this poor baby to get him clean. Every 2 weeks, rotating dewormers, and finally there are no more worms to be found.
Now I think the potty belly is just because he lives with 2 toothless seniors and eats massive quantities of “old man mush” with them (hay pellets and beet pulp). However, that’s something the vet has okayed for him to fill his face without in any way endangering his legs. Not only is he an orphan but he is out of a 17 hand mare so we are playing it very safe with food.
Does anyone else loathe the word groceries in the context of feeding a horse? I’m not trying to be mean to anyone that uses it, so please don’t be offended. I have no idea why it bothers me, but it does, and I was wondering if I was alone.
I expect every comment after mine to mention horses needing groceries at least once! Ya know, karma and all.
I have a friend that hates the word booger, so of course, I say it every chance I get when I’m around her.
Oh, and my two cents on the chestnut/sorrel debate – it depends on the breed of the horse. Thoroughbreds are never sorrel, but quarter horses are always sorrel and never chestnut. So whoever said breed registeries had it right on the money (in my book).
Ah, nice to know my suspicions were correct. It was an interesting case, I repeatedly said “He looks wormy”, and everyone told me he’d been wormed (which I knew), then they finally tested and low and behold…
she is kinda cute. in the same way shag carpeting is kinda snazzy.
*barf*
psh… LO and behold…
“”4Horses&Holding said…
Trying to google some of the ad words (to find the original) and came across these……”"
4Horses… I have seen most of these horses in person, in fact, one of them is stabled next door to me (the #4 filly). If you look behind her butt, you can see my white electric tape fence & pasture.
These are exceptionally bad photos.
The Appy gelding is worth his weight in gold and would be a good buy at that price. He was a bit thin in that pic, I believe that was when she first bought him. I have seen him fleshed out and he is a gorgeous mover and would fit in fine in the show ring.
The other horses aren’t as bad as the pics make them look, either. As a matter of fact, I even considered buying the two Paint half-sisters at one point, but I decided that since I already had two unbroke youngsters at my place, I didn’t need two more.
This person doesn’t breed horses. She does buy a lot of “throwaway” horses and she and her hubby retrain them to sell.
He was recently injured and is unable to train, so I would imagine they are trying to move some stock before winter hits.
Maybe there are some misspellings in the ads, but the person here is an honest seller, doesn’t breed, and actually helps horses by training/retraining them, and therefore does not deserve our critisism.
I would also like to add (on a less serious note) that I will now be importing Majikal Trekking Yaks and will be selling them for the modest price of $35,000. Who is interested? I will be sure to only bring back the *rarest* colors!
Seriously, those yaks are fuzzy and cute!
Now, the foal that is the subject of this blog.
Yes, Arabs are chestnut, but she is not full-blooded. She is also part QH, so that would make her a sorrel. Maybe we can compromise by combining them?
Ches-el? (Nah, doesn’t sound right.)
Sor-nut? (Nah, that was the stud’s color when the mare wasn’t quite in heat yet.)
Hou about Chestnutty-sorrel or Sorrelly-chestnut? Ah, nevermind… who really cares anyway? Let’s just say Red Gened. lol
lol FHOD ALWAYS picks on scruffy weanlings… Raise your hand if you DO NOT know that ALL weanlings (okay, maybe not all but 99.9% of them) are fugly!? They get big bellies and are all sorts of out of porportion at that age.
Yes, this filly has some faults. I see back at the knee, a somewhat short neck, and maybe a poor croup (though its difficult to tell with all that hair. AND, recently becoming the proud owner of a really well put together colt whose croup ALWAYS look super non-existent in pictures, but is actually really good, I can say it may just be the pic of this filly.)
All in all, I dont think this filly is that bad. Do I think her sire and/or dam should have been bred? No, I do not. They should have remained family horses or pasture ornaments.
But, I dont think this filly warrants the the critism that FHOD gave her.
She has a cute head with itty bitty ears. Her back is of a good length. Her hind legs, once she grows a bit more, will be not bad. Her front legs are not horribly back at the knee to where they will hinder her ability as a nice family/trail/pleasure (not competitive pleasure) horse.
I definitely DO NOT think she looks like a Yak! lmao. Thats just stupid.
Worming??? Do you SEE all of the snow on the ground? Her coat looks shiny to me (especially considering it looks to be about 4″ or more long!) And, the belly is easily accredited to her being a weanling.
She is born a bit late in the year. That was dumb on the owners’ part for sure.
Sorry FHOD, but we don’t all get to have our babies grow up in a cushy Polo barn. We dont all believe in keeping them shaved and blanketed all winter. This is what a weanling looks like when its in a natural environment, dealing with cold temps, and getting through the stress of being weaned.
Also, regarding the lead ropes being attached… Its called ‘dragging lead’ and is the accepted method of halter breaking by many trainers. It is also endorsed by the BLM as the appropriate way to start halter breaking a new adoptee.
I have a colt in my corral right now that is dragging lead. (He is also furry, with a huge weaner belly, and is FUGLY at the moment!). But, he was pulled off his dam just a week before he was put on the trailer and brought to AZ from SD a few weeks ago.
I felt it much safer to have him drag lead for a while so I could catch him should he colic, need worming, vaccs, etc. Once he is caught, he is an absolute doll. But, you can get your hand within centimeters of him, and he will move away… unless there is a lead to pick up and catch him with. We are working on this! lol
If the foals are in a large enough area, there is really no chance of them getting injured from dragging lead. In fact, the more they step on their own lead, the more they learn to give to pressure and not freak out when their face gets bumped or when they see a rope dragging along next to them, getting between their feet, etc.
Unless you have ever attempted to halter break pasture born and raised babies… don’t knock the method. lol Its extremely different from the babies that are born in a cushy stall and imprinted within minutes of their births. But, pasture born/raised babies, have some of the best natural insticnts and footing!
I think the ‘stuff’ in the corral with these babies is old round bales of some sort of wheat stalk? Its most likely edible, but probably put in their for them to lie in more than anything else. They can munch on it when they are bored, lie in it, roll in it, etc. I HIGHLY doubt that its their only form of nutriition. If it was, these babies would not be in such good condition! lol
puh-lease. cop on to yourself. its a carpet bearing beast of extreme fuglitude.
I’ve raised quite a few babies, and they don’t have to look like that. Ever. Quite a few years back, we raised an orphaned TB colt, from day one, on a bottle. We lost the mare the next morning. This was a quality colt by a stakes sire and out of a winning dam, with exquisite bloodlines, not a BYB TB. Anyway, he was gorgeous all the way through weanling and yearling ages, and I have the photos to show it. He got the best of feed, worming, and care and never did look like an orphan. He looked good even in his winter coat (which wasn’t much of a winter coat). Grew up to be over 16h and absolutely beautiful, as I knew he would. We gelded him as a yearling and sold him as a 2yo. His dam was by a son of Never Bend and out of a daughter of *Khaled. Same immediate female line as Three Bars. Looking back, I wish I had kept him to use on my Paint mares.
Cute fuzzy baby that’s most likely going to be a prime example of fugliness in a couple years. WHERE is its ass?
At least they have lots of hay there.
“Ginger” looks like my former pony “Star.”
Now I have to run out to the barn and see if my new colt looks like a fugly, but I am so much in love with the wee one, that I am sure I couldn’t tell if he were fugly or not.
Are foals born in the fall and winter? I thought daylight had something to do with conception for horses, that is, length of daylight…a November mating
doesn’t have much daylight…
Gosh, I wish I had that little fuzzy girl’s butt (or lack thereof)!
But a more accurate picture of “me-as-a-horse” would probably involve a Fresian (fuzzy legs and everything).
Baby IS a bit yak-like, though. Actually the Yak is kinda cool.
i guess you ‘Southerners’ aren’t accustomed to seeing our ‘Northern’ horses, lol! they appear to be an entirely different breed unto themselves during frigid months, that’s for sure!
i give you my former trail mare as an example:
winter ride
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Pilgrim3_2007/Niki%20the%20PMU%20mare/winterride018.jpg
summer ride
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Pilgrim3_2007/Niki%20the%20PMU%20mare/CIMG0792.jpg
(hope these work for you!)
oh, and by the way, she’s a PMU baby. 1/16 TB, the rest QH and WHAT a trail horse! 4200 miles logged in THREE years, not a step wrong.
I’ve been reading for a long time now but am still rather untrained in seeing all those conformation faults…the baby is cute, but only when I browsed through the pictures of my wee boy did I realise that either she has a tiny butt or my boy has a huge one!
He’s 3 now and in wintertime he looks just as shaggy as that filly does.
That’s him (and his bum) in summer coat (sorry for the long url)
http://photos-296.ll.facebook.com/
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uhm… *scratching head*… I have been around horses a long long time, and the only weanlings I’ve seen get a distended belly on them are the ones that were:
A.) just plain overfed, but then the neck crestiness follows, and they generally end up with some sort of lower limb problem (i.e. – epiphysitis) or other lameness. But the distended belly didn’t look terribly out of place, because the rest of it sort of blended together.
B.) weanlings that were fed large amounts of exceedingly poor quality food with a mediocre protein content.
C.) weanlings whose owners didn’t worm them at all or enough.
Since I’m staring at piles of hay on the ground (round bales? I’m from California, and I think I’ve only seen round bales 3 or 4 times in my life, and that was in relation to cattle…), I’m going to assume that B is the correct answer for this filly, with maybe some of C to go along with it.
I personally LOVE the arab/quarter cross, and have owned several myself. They don’t always get the best of both worlds, like this filly, but they generally are hardy, easy keepers with lots of stamina and ‘hybrid vigor’.
But to breed horses and sell them for $150 because you can’t afford to feed them through the winter is short-sighted and wrong. I hope that, from the exposure this blog has given her, the little lady featured will find a decent home.
Despite her conformational flaws, she’d probably make someone a good 4-H project and a putting-around trail horse or light gymkhana mount… do we BREED for these things? No. They are the sort of things you assign, as afterthoughts, to horses like this that don’t show any major potential in any area, but we assign them nonetheless because we don’t want to face the facts that the horse will likely wind up in a bad situation and die. Not saying this will happen with this filly, I’m just facing the reality that $150 horses don’t generally have bright futures ahead of them.
Quisto said
4Horses… I have seen most of these horses in person, in fact, one of them is stabled next door to me (the #4 filly). If you look behind her butt, you can see my white electric tape fence & pasture.
These are exceptionally bad photos.
The Appy gelding is worth his weight in gold and would be a good buy at that price. He was a bit thin in that pic, I believe that was when she first bought him. I have seen him fleshed out and he is a gorgeous mover and would fit in fine in the show ring.
The other horses aren’t as bad as the pics make them look, either. As a matter of fact, I even considered buying the two Paint half-sisters at one point, but I decided that since I already had two unbroke youngsters at my place, I didn’t need two more.
This person doesn’t breed horses. She does buy a lot of “throwaway” horses and she and her hubby retrain them to sell.
He was recently injured and is unable to train, so I would imagine they are trying to move some stock before winter hits.
Maybe there are some misspellings in the ads, but the person here is an honest seller, doesn’t breed, and actually helps horses by training/retraining them, and therefore does not deserve our critisism.
Assuming this post is correct isn’t this what we should be encouraging. Non breeders taking in fuglies and raising them up and training them?
All weanlings are FUGLY? I think not. A few months ago, while on a trip to look at a horse for a friend, I stopped by the breeder’s farm from which I bought my 3 year old a year ago. She had a pasture full of weanlings…. and while they might have been dusty, a quick bath/grooming would have been all that was necessary to prep them for showing in hand at a sport horse show. Great looking all Appy and Appy/TB and/or WB and/or Arab crosses. Might they look a little fugly in winter coat? I doubt it. Well fed, handled, wormed, vet care… not a fugly in sight.
Kay–that I why I wanted to step in and “defend” the person whose advertisments were being bashed. She buys a lot of these horses from an auction that is also owned by a man that runs a feedlot. If she didn’t buy them, they would end up on the next truck to whichever slaughterhouse this man sells to. She also “rescues” horses from a local “horse trader” and believe me, buying from him *is* rescuing due to poor management. His place is a mess, horses underfed, dangerous pastures, etc. (That is where she got the Appy gelding that is kind of skinny in the pic… he was way skinnier when she got him from the “horse trader.”)
Knowing all this, I felt like I had to share so that you guys wouldn’t tear her to shreds. She really is doing right by these horses. If her hubby hadn’t hurt his hand, they would all be well-broke by now and she would have a new batch to work on.
Thanks for taking the time to read this!
Could you post a link to the entire ad. I am only able to see the ones posted here on the blog. I’d like to see the Appy gelding and the others.
>> Sor-nut? (Nah, that was the stud’s color when the mare wasn’t quite in heat yet.)
lol.
How about this HA filly?
http://tinyurl.com/2pj32m
angel_with_a_broken_halo said…
How about this HA filly?
http://tinyurl.com/2pj32m
October 31, 2007 10:37 AM
She’s nice, and typey, but her hind legs look a bit too straight, and possibly crooked, it’s hard to tell with her high socks. But she might be worth taking a little closer look at.
I think the baby is cute also. Not a world class filly, but cute. With proper feed and care, I’ll bet she’d even be pretty. Hope she finds a good home.
I also second the post regarding the cause of potbellies in weanlings. Almost every weanling I’ve seen with a potbelly has been fed low quality hay and low quality concentrates such as beet pulp or cheap sweet feed.
Contrary to the old wives tales, high quality protein (which contains the essential amino acids necessary for proper growth – duh) isn’t what causes OCD. OCD is most often the result of significant mineral imbalances, excessive carbohydrate intake and lack of adequate turnout/exercise.
I’ve raised two foals until age three (yrs) and neither ever had a pot belly or fugly, excessive fur. One was weaned at 3 months the other at 4 months. They were fed 2-3# of TC 30% Supplement/day, 14-16% protein grass/alfalfa mix hay AM & PM and were turned out on 50+ acres of rolling, somewhat rocky pasture for 12 – 16 hours/day, weather permitting. They had the best legs and hard as nails feet anyone could hope for.
Here in Northeast Ohio, the horses I have had all grew long fuzzy coats and looked different from their slick summer selves.
Even the people here look fuzzy with their fur (faux) coats and boots.
Maybe winter is a fuzzy time.
Doesn’t every horse have a “confirmation” fault? And what about Impressive and Poco Bueno; they looked great, but they were deadly.
Kay– here is the link to her ads:
http://www.horseville.com/php/search.php?m=1&ssid=020789
Quisto said…
Kay– here is the link to her ads:
http://www.horseville.com/php/search.php?m=1&ssid=020789
Thanks Quisto
who breeds for a fall foal?
mnay breedrs do, just go search on horse message boards, see the foalcams, some mares are ready to foalanytime this fall one being Horsecity.
A lot of your throughbred horses are born in the fall/winter…Racing Indsutry.
As for the fuzzy coats, gee wonder why, could it be because of winter, they do grow hair ,for winter it’s known as winter coats.
Some of those potbellies could be just plain hay bellies too..
Racing industry to blame? I wouldn’t think so. A Fall foal is a BAD thing to TB breeders – a foal born in Aug/Sept/Oct/Nov would be considered a “yearling” on Jan. 1 – when it is barely old enough to wean. It will be “behind” all its spring-born comtemporaries in racing eligibility. Now….for the horse, that’s probably a GOOD thing – a smart breeder is going to wait to start it, knowing it’s that much younger than it’s contemporaries… but fall foals are.not what the racing industry breeds (Sorry if I’m misunderstanding and you’re saying that the racing industry is the one that DOESN”T want fall foals, but no one care if a foal is born late in the year…)
unless youre in the southern hemisphere
No one around here wants fall/winter foals. Foals are born in the spring/early summer (April-June) in these parts unless there is an accidental breeding.
Quisto, I looked up the add and then checked to see where the town is, if you are her neighbor you don’t live too far from one of the girls I helped raise.
She works at the vet’s office in Corydon and now lives in Pekin.
Sandy M said…
Racing industry to blame? I wouldn’t think so. A Fall foal is a BAD thing to TB breeders – a foal born in Aug/Sept/Oct/Nov would be considered a “yearling” on Jan. 1 – when it is barely old enough to wean. It will be “behind” all its spring-born comtemporaries in racing eligibility. Now….for the horse, that’s probably a GOOD thing – a smart breeder is going to wait to start it, knowing it’s that much younger than it’s contemporaries… but fall foals are.not what the racing industry breeds (Sorry if I’m misunderstanding and you’re saying that the racing industry is the one that DOESN”T want fall foals, but no one care if a foal is born late in the year…)
November 1, 2007 7:55 AM
yup.
it’s not just the racehorse breeders either, it’s the halter horse breeders and futurity-driven performance folks as well.
You want your horse born as close to January 1st as possible, but without being BEFORE January 1st… I have a friend who breeds halter horses, he bred his mares to foal in mid-January, and the first didn’t pop ’til February.
I owned a TB mare once who was foaled on January 10th. Bet her breeder was happy….. until he found out she couldn’t run a lick. Not much of a mover, either, and a klutz over fences. But she was safe enough over low (2’6″) fences, and I sold her first as a brood mare (she did have good bloodlines even if SHE couldn’t run) and the guy bred Ango-Arabs out of her. When he retired, she was sold to someone who was perfectly happy doing HUS (she was pretty and judges liked here, even though she was a mediocre mover), and hunter hack classes.
Kay, the lady who is advertising those horses has a daughter. I live next door to her daughter and son-in-law. The little filly belongs to her daughter and she has advertised the filly for her, thus the picture was taken at the house next to mine.
I’m not sure where Pekin is. I do know where Corydon is, as I grew up in Brandenburg, Ky, which is not far across the Ohio River from Corydon.
Anyway… I have been to the lady’s house several times to look at the horses (mostly because I like to look at horses!) and have found the horses to always be well cared-for and they seem to be a nice family. I do not know them very well, but I do know they are doing right by the horses and I didn’t want to see them bashed for it.
I want one of those yak’s they’re awesome! haha so cute! but yes, little miss fuzzy foal has some room for improvement…
There is one good thing about that foal, she has rather cute fuzzy little ears. (I like to find the good first, then get stuck into the bad.) Of course, she also has conformation that reminds me of a duck, and a belly so full of worms that it looks like its going to explode.