News of the Day: Things You Write Online Are Not Invisible!
Oct 29 2007
Selling due to lack of feed!
(On the same forum)
But I want pictures of your gelding for sale and are you willing to take trades?
I see this stuff ALL the time.
Oh, and look what ELSE she has for sale under the same e-mail address and phone number?
“Shih Tzu/Chihuahua/Terrier Puppies, 2 female, 1 male, will stay very small! $250/300 cash only. 1st shots & wormed; Sheltiepoo puppies 4 males, 1 female, 1st shots & wormed. $250/300 cash only. Can meet or deliver. For pictures email.”
Lady, you are a sack of shit. Get a damn job, you loser, and stop breeding things.
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Mexican Growling Weiner Doodle! **barfs in garbage can** At least you rescued and spayed her, I applaud you for that, I applaud anyone for rescuing an animal (if they are truly rescuing it!). If you had bred her just to see if the puppies would growl like a moronic BYB I’d have to hunt you down and bang your head on the ground, hahaha!
rescueweary-
I live in Oregon, and I can honestly say, looking out my front window, there are 24 horses that I have not seen used in anyway, in the past year I have lived in my house. It’s a big window. OHHH wait, the neighbor across the street breeds her fugly mares each year to her beautiful stallion, that would make a great gelding. Does that count(sarcasm)?????
On a even worse note, we have the BIG HERMISTON HORSE SALE here so they thin the herds down each month.(rolling eyes)I would love to give them “Shaken Breeder Syndrome”SBS. That is where you take them by the shoulders and shake the holy liven shit out of them.
So to get to the point, I think you sadly underestimated the ratio of used horses to unused.
8,000 views. Let’s break it down:
7,995 visitors who then proceeded to throw up in their mouths.
3 who were too stupid to see the crap.
2 who are just as dumb as the owners and are considering breeding.
robin said, “She truly is an idiot! Thinks the 8000+ visits are people actually looking at her horses with interest!”
Unfortunately, there will be a few who actually LIKE their horses. There are a bunch out there that read this blog anyway, whether they agree with what is written or not.
I’ve received quite a few emails from people who hate this blog, but read it faithfully every day. LOL.
But I agree, most of those hits are from those of us who are just amused by their antics.
I want to see a picture of the weenie doodle!
Did you see on Deneze’s site “We would like to thank “FUGLY HORSE OF THE DAY” for the free exposure
for “TWO EYED WADE”
How about a plug for her vet school too! HA!
Enigma – My boss was actually consider letting her get knocked up because his daughter wanted her to have puppies. She really needs to experience motherhood…
Yeah, I know there are a few idiots who do like the fugly thing, or who will feel sorry for all we have said about her and buy a breeding to make her feel better! I’m interested to see how long it takes her to re-write everything again to try and turn things around to make herself sound better as she has done in response to everything that has been written here!
Ugh! Sounds like you got her just in time!
I HATE when parents say crap like that “they need to or I want them to experience the cycle of life…blah, blah, blah…†He moron, start at the shelter with watching the unwanted over population get out to sleep.
Geldthebreedersoffuglies! said…
I want to see a picture of the weenie doodle!
I don’t know – they don’t like their pics taken!!!! No, I have several very cute pics of her, I don’t have them posted though.
rin: The “shit-poo” is a pure-bred, a breed that is very common, also known, in polite circles, as
BS or garbage. You can’t neuter or spay this one; it just keeps proliferating…
Really, rin, “shit-poo” is not a dog; it is a state of mind.
Okay, I’ll go ahead and address this “susan” person.
susan said…
well you people are really nice and since you know it all yourselves maybe you guys should get a life!
Have one, thanks! And guess what, mine includes proper grammar and diction, while yours obviously is lacking those things. Oh, but you must make up for it by over-breeding shit foundation horses because of their color! You don’t need to talk right, your horses say it all for you.
Just because someone inquires on another horse when they are trying to sell some doesnt mean they dont know other people looking and can ask for them instead of selling them somethin unsafe for the rider.
No, but when you are selling off ‘a GROUP’ due to ‘lack of feed’ on the same forum, y’think you would REMEMBER to say the inquiry was not for yourself, since your present hay situation was poor. BTW, I don’t buy the hay excuse, and neither does anybody else. Hay goes up in price every year, and while it has gone up aLOT this year in some areas, we all got along just fine. Another BTW, WHY THE FUCK did you breed all the mares BACK if you had a hay shortage coming? This isn’t rocket science, it’s livestock. Oh, I get it. Because the mares are probably NOT BROKE OR GOOD FOR ANYTHING BESIDES CHURNING OUT FUGLY COLORED FOUNDATION FOALS. I get it now.
as far as the rest of you go you can kiss my ass i was born and raised on a ranch in the state of oregon where horses are truly used i think i know what good conformation is
Whatever, ranch credentials don’t mean shit to me. As far as ass kissing goes, you better start kissing some yourself if you want anybody to buy those mares. I myself grew up on a ranch, and know what? It didn’t teach me SHIT about CONFORMATION, it taught me only about HARD WORK. You go out and LEARN about conformation, you don’t just learn it by ‘osmosis’ from being on a ranch.
and as far as the puppies go they were an accident from my unresponsible neighbors male dog.as far as sheltiepoos go i breed them purposely and never had trouble finding homes for them.
Again, your grammar and diction astound me. YOU are JUST AS UNRESPONSIBLE (your SUPER word there) as your neighbor, if you allowed your FEMALE DOG IN HEAT in a position to GET knocked up by another dog other than her slated mate! DUH! But go ahead and push off all “unresponsibility” off on your neighbor, since he or she is not here to defend themselves. Nobody will even know the difference.
you people are somethin else some of it is understandable but you are no better than anyone else the way you talk about people.my percheron fjord cross probably looks better than anything you fuckin own so screw off LOSERS and GET A LIFE maybe a pitchfork and some shit would tire you out enough that you would be sleeping in your spare time instead of thinking you can just rip on people about the animals they own
I believe we rip on people for the animals they BREED, not own. We actually APPLAUD the owners of fuglies, since giving them a home is much better than the alternative. Which is probably what your ‘group’ of mares and foals may be facing with your supposed ‘hay shortage’.
as far as the cash only goes thats because i have been ripped off with checks enough times hmmm now what do you suggest on that theory money orders?? last i knew cash was the simpleist way to deal!
It is. Simplest way for the simplest minded, obviously. Guess what? Keep the horse, and when the check clears, they can take the horse! DUH! I believe THAT is how it’s generally done.
October 29, 2007 8:38 PM
susan said…
wft difference is to any of you how many and of what do people own?I never minded an openminded discussion but the way people are talking about other people on here is truly ignorant and obviously lacking respect for themselves to talk about other people that way.
HA! THAT is the pot calling the kettle black! What is DISRESPECTFUL is for you to use an age-old ploy to sell horses by saying you have a HAY SHORTAGE, which by the way MANY are having, and that you need to sell… AND THEN inquire on ANOTHER horse to trade for! THAT is SHADY AND WRONG, even if it WAS for another person. I don’t care who you are, that’s just wrong. What we are doing here is discussing the poor state of the horse market and the people, just like YOURSELF, that keep CHURNING OUT UNPROVEN STOCK into an EXTREMELY instable market. These people, much like yourself, generally don’t listen to polite critiques of their stock, so we have resorted to our last-ditch effort to raise awareness of the ASSHATS that breed dogfood and auction-fodder.
good thing everyone gets to hide behind a screen if someone dared to talk to me like that in person i would bust some ass!!!
October 29, 2007 8:43 PM
If I lived anywhere near Viola, Wisconsin, I’d be taking you up on that, Susan Stewart. But you are hardly worth a many-hour plane ride for me. Sorry.
susan said…
oh and by the way that beautifull little YAK is a 7 year old girls best friend who is deathly afraid of horses and this little calm sweetheart has made my daughter not afraid.I aslo said Lack of feed not no feed or starving my horses didnt say i cant buy feed so get a grip
You dug your own hole on that one. Again, your diction astounds me. I ‘aslo’ asked WHY DID YOU BREED THEM ALL BACK? If you had been PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL, you’d have seen this coming a mile away like the rest of the world. Oh, I forgot again! The mares are probably only viable for sale if they are pregnant, since they are solely baby-pumpers.
October 29, 2007 9:00 PM
susan said…
no you are the pathetic person thats very true! you are not me and i believe i have a way better conception of how to treat people! it’s no wonder with assholes like you why i do breed animals!
What?! I’m sorry, but DOGFOOD and THE AUCTIONS are why you breed animals, not us.
I’d like to invite you to join everyone’s favorite moron breeder of fuglies, Deneze and gary (don’t capitalize gary, he doesn’t like it.)
She might buy your horses, she has a real ‘good rapport’ with the local SPCA and auction houses as well.
http://groups.msn.com/smokinhorseranch
>>I HATE when parents say crap like that “they need to or I want them to experience the cycle of life…blah, blah, blah…†He moron, start at the shelter with watching the unwanted over population get out to sleep.< <
No shit. Not to mention the ones that are born dead or die shortly thereafter! That’s loads of fun for the kiddies. Get a CLUE, people.
Hey, Since everyone else is doing it for dogs and horses, can we make our own ‘registry’ for people and call it something to the effect of “The Foundation for Irresponsible Animal Owners and Breeders” I have a few people in mind for the first honorary lifetime memberships!
I HATE when parents say crap like that “they need to or I want them to experience the cycle of life…blah, blah, blah…â€
Oh, don’t worry. I’m sure most of these moron adults have equally moronic children who will get to experience their own “cycle of life” soon enough; probably from Uncle Bubba.
>>I HATE when parents say crap like that “they need to or I want them to experience the cycle of life…blah, blah, blah…†He moron, start at the shelter with watching the unwanted over population get out to sleep.< <
No shit. Not to mention the ones that are born dead or die shortly thereafter! That’s loads of fun for the kiddies. Get a CLUE, people.
given todays social standards its pretty likely that little billy or little suzy will get knocked up (or knock someone else up) by the time he or she is 16. so they can experience the “life” then. i swear to god(s) if i see one more pregant highschool kid im gonna smack the shit outa some parents. a couple years back when mah’man just started working for IBM we got moved around alot and for a while our neighbor was a 19 yr old girl who got knocked up and decided to have/keep the baby because she really thought it was gonna be all rainbows and sunshine….alone, no “baby daddy” no parents living with her, totally on her own. yea….i called the cops three times because she FREAKED out and damm near killed that kid several times in the first few months….it was only a few months old. but hey lettin kids take part in “makin animal babies” gets all those desires out right???right? so yea let them have animal babies and then they wont think havin one of their own is easy!…..um, no. they think its VERY easy to have and raise a baby because when they see someone/something else do it….it looks like rainbows and sunshine.
You know… I’m almost disappointed that susan-subject-of-the-blog has not reappeared. I was really enjoying the drama…
Amy said…
You know… I’m almost disappointed that susan-subject-of-the-blog has not reappeared. I was really enjoying the drama…
Me too Amy, me too.
“Susan” vs. “susan”, “4horses” and “4thehorses”, and me (“Geld the Fugly!) and “Geld the breeders of fugly”…..enough to make your head spin!
And if you need more vertigo, try to read the Angel Acres website – or is it Angel Acers? Hard to tell, since the word appears multiple times with each spelling. Glad they are doing God’s work by “rescuing” more horses than they can feed.
Ok, I know we’ve beaten the hay situation to death, but just can’t take it anymore. I’m sooooooo tired of BYBs, “rescues”, and miscellaneous other irresponsible horse owners crying about a hay shortage. Yes, hay is very scarce in some places. Yes, hay is generally more expensive this year. Yes, I can even imagine some emergency situations that would require folks to sell/lease out/place a horse because they recognize that is in the horse’s best interest. HOWEVER – crying about a hay shortage while continuing to breed, “rescue”, purchase, or otherwise acquire additional horses is simply stupid and irresponsible. News flash to BYB susan – horses cost money to feed and care for. MORE horses cost MORE money to feed and care for. Stop breeding fuglies = fewer horses to care for = you can afford to take care of the ones you have. GENIUS!
*$@#^$^#*&%$#$#%^&$^%$&*………
to Barnibus:
My mother told me once that teenagers are more likely to keep their child precisely because they think this cute little thing will grow up to love them like no one else will whereas educated women in their 20s and 30s are more likely to have an abortion because they *know* they cannot support a child at that point in their lives.
I found it quite interesting…
Geldthebreedersoffuglies! said…
I think the only thing that needs to be “spaded” is this woman…right in the head…
…It’s like the crown jewel of rednecks. And by “crown,” I mean the Burger King kind.
ROTHFLMAO – thank’s a shitzu-load! I spewed chips all over my keyboard on that one!
Sorry for the spelling errors and bad grammer. Next time I expect to be corrected,(sheepish grin).
“On a even worse note” Oh man, did I really say worse it probably should have been “worser”*sarcasm* and “That is where you take them by the shoulders and shake the holy liven shit out of them.” “liven”??? Oh man somebody give me a banjo!!!!!!
Excerpt from Angel Acres/Acers “wish list”:
“DEAR HORSE LOVERS; WE REALLY NEED YOUR HELP WINTER IS COMMING FAST WE ARE DOWN TO OUR LAST 75 BALES OF HAY WITH 14 ANIMALS TO FEED THIS WILL NOT LAST BUT ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND WE ARE NOT EVEN INTO BAD WEATHER YET. IF ANYONE CAN DONATE SOME HAY . [...]I AM SURE THAT ONCE THE WEATHER STARTS GETTING BAD WE WILL BE SWAMPED WITH ANIMALS [...]“
Um…..if you can’t feed the ones you already have, perhaps you should avoid taking in more? Just a suggestion…..
Hey gals, chin up! The day is still early yet, hell, she’s probably only smoked her morning cig, and fed a shit-poo, or at least taken one!
Love the blog! This is the latest Craigslist ad in my area of Northern California… I don’t know why I look. Damn em.
TACO IS A BIG SWEET HORSE THAT IS ALOT LIKE A DOG, HE’S GREAT TO RIDE, HE IS A RETIRED RACEHORSE, WOULD BE A GREAT HUNT JUMP PROSPECT. THE MAN THAT BRINGS HORSES TO US IS GOING TO TAKE HIM TO SLAUGHTER IN MEXICO IF WE CAN’T FIND HIM A HOME BEFORE FRIDAY. PLEASE CALL 530-410-8085 OR 530-549-4253
I’ve just gotta jump in on this one. I will be the first to admit, I have an unfixed mixed breed dog. Here is why: He was the family dog while I was growing up, and my mother refused to take him to the vet to get a check up, let alone nuetered. At that time, it was a choice between the dog or the kids (yes, that means we shouldn’t have had the dog, but we did). By the time I got control of him (aforementioned mother was going to put a wonderful 9 year old dog in the pound because irrisponsible sisters would not take care of him- I was not living at home any more) he was 9 years old. Note: HE WAS NEVER BRED, even though he was “unaltered”. When I took him to the vet, I was told that due to his age, the surgery could cause as many problems as it would fix, and was advised that unless problems ensue (such as cancer), we should just let him be. Now, please understand that I love this dog with all my heart, and there have been times when I thought having a puppy from him would be nice. But he is half Lab, half Border Collie, and dogs usually have a litter of at least 4, if not more, and I knew I couldn’t keep 4 additional dogs. So Charley WAS NOT BRED. Charley WILL NEVER be bred. He is the sweetest in the world, but he is a mutt, no matter his wonderful personality. There is no room in this world for more mutts. And dogs don’t really care if they ever “do it”. Charley is the happiest dog I know. They don’t see “the act” the same way people do. So what did I do when I wanted another dog? I “adopted” one from a family that ran into severe financial difficulties (main money maker was laid off) ad could no longer take care of him. He was on his way to an animal shelter. And he another awsome dog. Also a mutt, but he is nuetered. I got him for only the cost of caring for him. So why should I spend $300 for a mutt, when A) I could breed my own, and know what temperment they would be likely to have, B) I could get a wonderful dog in NEED of a home for $100 from the local SPCA, or C) I could look through the local Pennysaver and find many people offering their dogs for free to a good home?
I would think that 4 breed mutt lady suzan would think of these things. But wait, that’s asking her to find her 2 brain cells, then convince them to work together long enough to get a thought across. There is probably a reason the people who are buying mutts from her are buying them: They were denied by a rescue, FOR A REASON! Oh, and the same principle applies to horses. If you can’ afford to keep the product of the breeding, DON’T BREED!
Sorry, I misspelled a few things. It should read:
severe financial difficulties (main money maker was laid off) AND could no longer take care of him.
And he IS another awsome dog.
If you CAN’T afford to keep the product of the breeding, DON’T BREED!
GTBOF – “Oh, don’t worry. I’m sure most of these moron adults have equally moronic children who will get to experience their own “cycle of life” soon enough; probably from Uncle Bubba.”
Ahh hahaha! ROTFLMAO!!! That was too damn funny! (Yeah, I know it actually happens, which is totally sick, but that comment struck me as hilarious!)
So why don’t they add to the slaughter bill some kind of legislation to start sending out information about slaughter to all horse owners to start nipping the root cause of the problem in the bud? There is only one source for the over population of anything, BREEDING!
susan comes from a ranch where horses are really used, yet she’s selling a bazillion pregnant mares who haven’t been ridden in 2 years. So they will all have babies and there will be 2 bazillion horses that nobody will have any use for.
But I take exception to the snarky comments about the perch/fjord cross. Percheron’s are like lard, they improve everything they are added to.
(shhh, I know it isn’t true, but don’t tell my horse that!)
>>Percheron’s are like lard, they improve everything they are added to.< <
Good God, did you learn to cook from my ex-husband?
4thehorses said…
Hey gals, chin up! The day is still early yet, hell, she’s probably only smoked her morning cig, and fed a shit-poo, or at least taken one!
Actually, I believe the number of comments and properly spelled replies overloaded her brain and she just can’t handle reading it all.
But hey, I’m being extremely snarky atm…
fuglyhorseoftheday said…
>>Percheron’s are like lard, they improve everything they are added to.< <
Good God, did you learn to cook from my ex-husband?
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Fugly, was your ex-husband french? seems odd that he’d add a little percheron to everything.
Rin said…
fuglyhorseoftheday said…
>>Percheron’s are like lard, they improve everything they are added to.< <
Good God, did you learn to cook from my ex-husband?
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Fugly, was your ex-husband french? seems odd that he’d add a little percheron to everything.
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Would a little percheron be a cross between a mini and a draft? With perhaps some buckskin grulla paint foundation TWH arab to make sure we cover all the trendy bases?
I just can’t do it anymore, after 2 months of just reading, I have to join in…Today has pushed me over the edge…I feel like I know most of you already, except new Susan, she makes MY HEAD HURT!
My head hurts said…
“I just can’t do it anymore, after 2 months of just reading, I have to join in..”
Welcome! Get your snark hat on.
I love it when these idiot assmonkey BYB’s jump from the frying pan directly into the fire by coming here and trying to defend themselves. All they do is completely validate this blog and provide some entertainment.
I would guess that “a little percheron” probably also includes some gypsy vanner…and fresian…
Yes, the fluffies, can’t for get the fluffy bunnies!
I have two neutered bitches and an un-neutered, cross bred (really REALLY was an accident folks- there is a story there and I did not breed her myself!!) bitch.
I have never had her “done”- I have never actually had a problem managing my bitches- they come in season- they don’t roam free.
If then, an accident happened I would deal with it.
I should get her neutered though for her healths sake, just so flipping expensive I keep putting it off.
I do understand (not condone) people who take on a kitten or puppy without realising the expense involved- as a re-homer for kittens I lay all the expenses out on the line before people even start- there are loads of “hidden” costs, neutering and vaccinations are just the obvious ones.
I feel it is the responsibility of the seller to inform people of the costs involved.
Unfortunately, with horses, dogs, cats etc, responsibility is not a word BYB understand.
If “susan” can’t find/afford feed what is she ding to make sure the person she is selling to can??
Or does she not care about that either??
One day a semi-educated person who knows how to punctuate, does not launch into invective (and knows what the word means) and knows how to use spellcheck will answer one of Fugley’s tirades and I think we will all be speechless!!
I would not advise anyone holding their breathe , though!!
Kirri – the Friends of Animals use to have a spay/neuter program that offered discounted spays/neuters with certain vets. Go to their website to see if they are still doing this program. It use to be something like $30 or $40 for males and $65 or $75 for females including shots, but this was ~6 years ago.
Growling Mexican Weiner doodle pics are on this blog: http://uneekdogs.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_archive.html
Scroll about 3/4 of the way down to the Issaquah Farmer’s market pics. There is a pic of Lady (border collie X w/ a bad underbite) and Keela (weiner doodle) It’s actually a great pic of her. I think it’s the day she took a huge dump right in the middle of the Farmer’s Market – joy! She is badly toed out in front, and only one ear is usually up, and she bounces when she barks.
susan said…
well you people are really nice and since you know it all yourselves maybe you guys should get a life!Just because someone inquires on another horse when they are trying to sell some doesnt mean they dont know other people looking and can ask for them instead of selling them somethin unsafe for the rider.as far as the rest of you go you can kiss my ass i was born and raised on a ranch in the state of oregon where horses are truly used i think i know what good conformation is and as far as the puppies go they were an accident from my unresponsible neighbors male dog.as far as sheltiepoos go i breed them purposely and never had trouble finding homes for them.you people are somethin else some of it is understandable but you are no better than anyone else the way you talk about people.my percheron fjord cross probably looks better than anything you fuckin own so screw off LOSERS and GET A LIFE maybe a pitchfork and some shit would tire you out enough that you would be sleeping in your spare time instead of thinking you can just rip on people about the animals they own as far as the cash only goes thats because i have been ripped off with checks enough times hmmm now what do you suggest on that theory money orders?? last i knew cash was the simpleist way to deal!
October 29, 2007 8:38 PM
i just want to say, my name is Susan… but that isn’t me!
Checking in from southeastern Washington state (howdy to neighbors Oregon & Idaho!),
Coming home the long way from the dentist this morning I decided to scout my rural neighborhood for fuglies & unfuglies & perceived usages. Here’s my unofficial and unscientific count within a mile radius: Well over 50 horses (after all, some must be inside the barns and hiding in the bushes). At least three FUGLY stallions behind single strands of rusty barbed wire, manes & tails neglected, roman noses, never seen a farrier, underweight, etc. etc. These at-least-three-fugly-stallions on separate acreages are running with five to ten equally-fugly mares/geldings, some with fuglier colts at side. One countless herd of spotted ones (paints/pintos?) to scrambled up to count, but obviously reproducing at an alarming rate—mares, yearlings, foals together. ONE well-fenced pasture with six fat & sleek Qs in it, manes maintained, apparently shod or trimmed, alert & friendly, tons of neatly stacked & tarped hay next to their run-in shed. Ah, there is hope! One emaciated oldster completely loose on a front lawn. A string of fuzzy ponies that look like they’re on vacation from a pony ride at the carnival. THEN down my own driveway to see…..a fat & friendly soon-to-be-weaned colt at the side of his sleek & cared-for mommy (my one mare) and Uncle Oldster in his turnout blankie (to keep him warm & dry and shield his skinny frame from do-gooder neighbors who might not understand that he is thoroughly vetted, maintained, & fed until his eventual respectful funeral before snow flies).
So in my immediate neighborhood alone there are only a handful of cared-for handsome horses, and a plethora of fugly seemingly-neglected ones. What to do, except go out to scrub & refill my own water trough and clean out the pens and toss some more hay and love my own lovelies…..
You can find all kinds of odd dog breeds here at Puppy Dog Web:
http://www.puppydogweb.com/currentads.htm
Aussiedoodle, Bich-Poo, Boxerdoodle, Cavapoo, Cockapoo etc..
All of which sound quite ugly to me, especially the Boxerdoodle.
I have noticed the same thing. People who breed animals for their own gain. Usually, a bare resemblance to the breed they are advertising. Also they are willing to wheel and deal just to get the greenbacks in their wallet. They don’t give a crap about who or where, just the money.
Miserable people.
4thehorses:
Not quite what I had pictured in my mind, but a cutie nonetheless.
We have rescued two Doxies that came from “ethnically diverse” (read: Hispanic) neighborhoods in our town. They are definitely all Doxie, but I think they have a little Speedy Gonzales in them, too!
Ay-ay-ay! Ole!
Ok, I have to chime in about the spay/neuter thing. In the area I live in PAWS will help people cover the cost of spaying and neutering dogs and cats. I have lead many people to this service and they were able to have their cat or dog spayed or neutered for FREE. The funds are earmarked for this purpose. I think it comes from the Bob Barker Foundation. It is incomed based, but I have seen them help many, many pets. The owner may not get the vet of their choice, but their pet gets quality care and gets spayed or neutered for FREE. When I worked at a higher priced vet clinic I would give the phone number out to people in need. I knew that the surgery would not happen at the clinic I worked at due to the fact that our clinc wasn’t willing to give PAWS a break on cost. What I did know was that these pets would get taken care of, and they would no longer be producing offspring.
>>I do understand (not condone) people who take on a kitten or puppy without realising the expense involved- < <
You can adopt a dog/puppy – cat/kitten from our local pound for $10.00 and that includes first shots and a certificate for a free neuter/spay.
Right now, there are some pure bred dogs there, one a gorgeous red doberman and some mixes, some old, some pups.
I like how she has sooo many for sale- due of course to the hay shortage, yet she is looking to buy more?
Um, wouldn’t you be able to buy hay and feed your mares with the money you are using to buy the gelding with? That’s what I thought…
My other favorite is when they contact you about a horse you listed for sale, and when you look up their last name on dreamhorse, they have horses listed for sale- due to an illness in the family, lack of hay, (these next three are best when they have no kids!) sadly outgrown, child lost interest, owner off to college, no time to ride, can’t afford (fill in the blank)… any one of the all to familiar, crappy, lame, BYB, trying to make a buck excuses we have all seen and heard too many times.
Our vet charges, for cats, $45 males, $65 females. The dogs go by weight with the females costing more, especially if they are in season or pregnant.
When we had our Rott neutered in 05 it cost us $75, he weighed in at 175 then. He was a rescue that had been used for breeding. We wanted a nice family dog and not to breed so he was fixed. He sure was happier after that.
The local shelter wants $75 for the mutts they have and it includes shots, worming, and spaying or neutering. I wish that I could adopt a dog, but I am in an apt and can only have my one cat.
If you look in our local paper, http://www.magicvalley.com you will see all of the poor mixed breed everything that is for free or cheap. Believe me if you read through the ads you will be hearing the banjo music quite clearly!
It really pisses me off when I get a response on my 4 y/o I have for sale asking me if I would be interested in trading for an older well-broke horse. Most likely the poor creature is scrawny, lame and/or sick and they want to pawn it off on me and start over with a young horse. No thanks asshole.
I breed… a different small animal (easy to figure out if you take two or three simple steps, but let’s just say they are small, and have large litters.) I’ve been doing this for 9 years, building up slowly, gaining a great reputation and making a lot of friends along the way. Nine years, by the way, is a very long haul with these little critters; the average new breeder lasts about 2 years.
I’m suspending my breeding program, temporarily I hope, because there are, if I am adding things up correctly, about 400 to 500 rescued critters of this same species available in my area right now, plus 150 of another similar, slightly larger critter. I can’t place my own babies, so it’s time to take a break.
I have about 4 months left before I’ll be forced to make a decision about whether to continue, because that’s when my youngest female critters will reach their maximum age for a first breeding. If the answer is “stop,” I may be able to keep a skeleton program going by breeding two or three litters a year and keeping all the babies.
I *know* this is the right thing to do, that rescues should come before breeder stock, but I’m still upset. Here I am doing things the right way, and I feel like I’m being punished for it, while folks who got in over their heads, who didn’t care to learn and take things slowly, get away with it.
I am sure that there are other reputable breeders of various animals, be they horses, cats, dogs, or anything else, who feel the same way right now. Beneath it all, I sense a pessimistic path for the American middle class, who are essential customers to any breeding program.
Jumping in a little late on this one, I admit, but
Susan-”it’s no wonder with assholes like you why i do breed animals!”
So what type of animals do you breed? Large dogs, billy goats, rams, mini’s or small ponies? Do you enjoy the occasional roll in the mud with your boar? Obviously they are on top right? (Sick I know, but she started it!)
Ann said…
I breed… a different small animal (easy to figure out if you take two or three simple steps, but let’s just say they are small, and have large litters.) I’ve been doing this for 9 years, building up slowly, gaining a great reputation and making a lot of friends along the way. Nine years, by the way, is a very long haul with these little critters; the average new breeder lasts about 2 years.
I’m suspending my breeding program, temporarily I hope, because there are, if I am adding things up correctly, about 400 to 500 rescued critters of this same species available in my area right now, plus 150 of another similar, slightly larger critter. I can’t place my own babies, so it’s time to take a break.
I have about 4 months left before I’ll be forced to make a decision about whether to continue, because that’s when my youngest female critters will reach their maximum age for a first breeding. If the answer is “stop,” I may be able to keep a skeleton program going by breeding two or three litters a year and keeping all the babies.
I *know* this is the right thing to do, that rescues should come before breeder stock, but I’m still upset. Here I am doing things the right way, and I feel like I’m being punished for it, while folks who got in over their heads, who didn’t care to learn and take things slowly, get away with it.
I am sure that there are other reputable breeders of various animals, be they horses, cats, dogs, or anything else, who feel the same way right now. Beneath it all, I sense a pessimistic path for the American middle class, who are essential customers to any breeding program.
October 30, 2007 12:27 PM
I am actually am glad to find someone else who feels this way! I have bred parrots since 1988 and things have gotten out of hand with BYBs and mis-informed folks only looking for a good price. Within the past three years my prices have plummeted because folks refuse to pay for the quality bred, well-handled, super-tame stock I was raising from a few healthy adult pairs. Instead they prefer to pay 1/4th the price to a BYB who has bred who knows what together and who knows how many times (depleting the parent’s nutrition and possibly causing problems to the young) who aren’t DNA profiled or vaccinated…… It makes me SO mad. And yes, two years is the average turnover for parrot breeders. They think they are gonna make “so much money” then flood the market with low quality goods, bottom out the prices and then dump their breeders to the next yahoo. In the past you could wait them out but they have proliferated like locusts and I can’t do it any more. I am not adding new breeding stock as I retire my oldsters (who stay with me forever). I am just backing slowly away…. and it is so sad to watch the industry I loved & helped build die.
Totally OT, but would someone please rescue this poor fugly located in Bladensburg, OH before some dealer does?
http://images.craigslist.org/01151201021001160020071030195afc6c192fa80724002a53.jpg
percheron/appaloosa gelding 6-7yrs – $150
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Reply to: sale-464116223@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-10-30, 1:54PM EDT
I have a 6-7 yr. old percheron/appaloosa gelding to offer. He is very green and will require some good, firm training. I haven’t had him very long (about 2 mths) and the previous owner didn’t train him much. He has loaded beautifully in the trailer for me. As for standing for the farrier, I’m not sure. He is due for that as well. I gave him to a relative, but that isn’t working out and he isn’t being cared for or worked with as much as he needs. He can be bull-headed, but definately likes men more than women. He has been ridden (he doesn’t like a bit), but like I said, he needs work. Someone with horse training experience is what this horse needs. He isn’t a horse for a beginner. Unfortunately, I am new to horses and he is not a good fit for me. He doesn’t come with any tack… just the horse.
Those ads are exactly what killers look for. Actually I’d rather a dealer got a hold of him. Usually they’ll put some training on them and re-sell to make a profit.
Man, I think we all know where this poor percheron/appaloosa gelding is going to end up! I’m too far away to get him, or else I would. He may be fugly but he deserves a chance.
Robin said…
Sorry, way OT but have you seen the latest from Deneze on her website?
http://groups.msn.com/smokinhorseranch
She truly is an idiot! Thinks the 8000+ visits are people actually looking at her horses with interest! Yeah, maybe her 5 friends who are as ignorant as she is that she has been crying to!
October 30, 2007 8:36 AM
Well, I may be the first to say this, but some of the people who have found her ‘website’ from this SUPER advertisement and publicity for her Two Eyed Wade – for those not in the know, he is the progenitor of ABHORRENT hind leg conformation and a distant 4th generation relative to Two Eyed Jack, and a 3rd generation to anything that’s performed worth a shit – haven’t been the brightest crayons in the box when it comes to equine conformation.
90% of the folks here are like-minded and great, but y’know, we have the occasional ‘susan’, ‘ellysmom’ (or whoever it was that owned that crooked-front-legged palomino piece of shit, and had the balls to price his deformed WEANLING STUD COLT *uncut* at $1,500) or ‘Deneze and gary’ turn up, and I reckon that they just LOOOOOVED old Two Eyed Wade, aka founder of the Impressive Eukanuba Bars Breeders Futurity.
So GREAT for you, Deneze and gary, whose breeding operation reads like a manual of how NOT to breed horses; I hope that you can finally grasp firmly enough the concepts of equine conformation, bloodlines and marketability well enough to pull your head out of your ass and see what’s going on around you.
But I’m not holding my breath on it. As it’s been said before, some fools never learn. If it is as the previous poster said it was, and the SPCA has been to her house already and she STILL hasn’t learned, I doubt us snarkers here telling the TRUTH on FHOTD are going to have any effect on her.
Oh, that’s right, I forgot. You already accepted a bunch of breedings for him ‘via paypal’ *snicker* and you’re also a FUCKING VET (all in caps, profanity included)… so you’ve probably got it all figured out.
Sorry for the posting before and missing the differences in Susan vs. susan. I think if we referred to the latter as lazy susan, it would make it easier for all to clarify between the two. Lazy Susan- since she is too lazy to use her shift key, space bar, vocabulary, proper grammar, spell check, punctuation or contraception- for herself, her horses and her dogs.
BTW- I have a mutt. Had her for 10 years now. She is out of a Collie/Shepherd mix and sired by and Am Bulldog. Daddy jumped the 6 foot fence to get to her momma who was outside to go potty, not make hanky panky with the boy next door…
Better believe I had her at the vet’s on her first heat cycles to have her spayed. (or spaded as some say) I had to wait for my paycheck and pay my bills or I would have had it done before the heat cycle. Either way, I made damn sure there would be no ‘accidents’ or resulting puppies.
She was purchased in front of a grocery store and was one of the last two available puppies of a litter of 6, for sale for $80 each. The money was going to have her mother spayed so there would be no repeat litters. They may have been a little late getting to the pier, but they did make it. Had they gotten the dog fixed before the litter, I would not have gotten a wonderful dog out of the deal. The vet they were using to get their dog fixed and the puppies all their shots- was a vet we had used for a number of years. Kudos! They did the right thing!
http://maine.craigslist.org/grd/462326399.html
Apparently the Animali Farm is being auctioned off. “The ranch is being auctioned off so all the horses must go by the Nov 2 deadline! 42 Belgian, Percheron and Draft cross mares need homes. If you’re looking for draft mares, all possibly bred, please visit the rescue site at http://www.theanimalifarm.com Or call Jennifer at (805) 938-0174 for details on reserving one or more of these horses.”
Uh, yeah.
You know, OFCOL, I was thinking about Deneze and gary…if they got more than five breedings to their wannabe gelding, that WOULD be a lot to them…
because it takes TWO HANDS to count that high!
is five or so bookings for 8000 views really something to brag about anyhow?
I wish I could take every one of those drafts pictured. I love drafts. *sigh*
sigh, ranch being auctioned off is code for “foreclosure.” Yet another reason not to get in over one’s head when it comes to rescuing!
Our place is paid off, thank g-d. Short of the most dire economic catastrophe, my husband and I have a place to live… for life. But part of the reason, I think, that my business has dropped off is that people who are overextended on their mortgages (as many are in my state) aren’t going to want to be getting more pets, especially since most apartments have severe limitations on the quantity and type of pets allowed, if any.
>>Fugly, was your ex-husband french? seems odd that he’d add a little percheron to everything.< <
ROTFL I was talking about the lard. He could have made a salad unhealthy. Everything had to be fried, battered or otherwise encased in a layer of artery-clogging material.
I guess my question is why are they not dropping the “adoption fees” on these mares to get them adopted? If they think the killers are going to pay even 1/4 of what they are asking for adoption fees that’s even dumber yet! If the moron who owns them thinks the killer buyers are going to buy them as broodmares (as stated on the animali site) he’s a complete fucking moron! They don’t buy them to raise them just to kill, that’s way too costly when they are a dime a dozen!
Percherons=lard: ha! Now I don’t feel so bad about calling my husband’s horse “lard butt” from time to time. Both his parents were draft crosses; one a QH/Belgian and one a QH/Percheron. Husband calls him a 3/4 horse.
I don’t think it is the Animali farm being auctioned off, I think it is one of the farms that they work with that is being auctioned off, and that is why the horses have to find homes. Still tugging at the heartstrings. Argh. For the “adoption” price, someone could go to a local auction and pick up 3 or 4 deserving horses.
regarding the animal farm (which is in my home state)… their website says ‘if they are not adopted they will go to auction in Saskatchewan where meat horse breeders will probably buy them to use as broodmares’…. and this is different from them being broodmares at your place how???? I’m with the RESPONSIBLE RESCUES DON’T BREED THEIR RESCUE HORSES… god
and enigma, believe it or not there are people who do breed and raise horses for the purpose of human consumption, but as you pointed out horses are a dime a dozen… so what kind of care do you think the broodies get?
kuvaszfan said…
Shetland Sheepdog Sheltie 972
Poodle 1874
Purebred and mixes just on Petfinder.
4Horses&Holding said…
kuvaszfan
WTF? For real?
4Horses&Holding said…
and, if it is, where in the world are you?
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Those aren’t prices – they’re the number of animals of that breed available for adoption and listed on Petfinder.
dlgilbert4 – LOL, my “
WTF? For real?” and “and, if it is, where in the world are you?” comments were actually in response to this post:
kuvaszfan said…
Talking with another horseperson yesterday. This is the plan he was told about at the horse show:
Folks are heading north/west on trail ride this weekend and after ride is complete, they will untack horse and let it go…don’t have the money to feed through winter.
If I’d thought for a second those were prices for those mut…. oops, designer dogs, I’d have a lot more to say than WTF!
oops. Those weren’t designer dogs. They were REAL breeds.
75 bales of hay for 14 horses?
I had about 50 for the 1 horse at home and getting nervous. Just filled my barn to the rafters, good thru the winter now. Not nervous anymore.
As for the dog/cat rescues-I can’t go near them. It breaks my heart to see the dogs.
I have a 4 year old GSD purebred nuetered dog, a 13 year old lab spayed bitch (are they still a bitch if spayed?) and my mouser cat who is too lazy to get off the couch. And 2 horses. No more room. Sigh, did I say the dogs at the rescue break my heart?
>>Good God, did you learn to cook from my ex-husband? < <
Actually I learned the power of lard the first time I tried “lard free” Chinese almond cookies. I don’t cook with it, but I no longer see “Lard Free” as a positive attribute
And for those of you cooking with Percherons- aren’t they a little tough?
And lastly, mine is only half QH, so I guess that makes him an eighth horse. It’s ok, though, Percheron makes up for the shortcomings
kuvaszfan said…
…So now people need to rescue horses from rescues.
I rescued a pony from a “rescue.” He was oversold and not what I was looking for at all, plus I had to have him gelded, at 3 (he had been running with mares). I just couldn’t send him back there when he didn’t work out. He has a great home learning to be a lesson pony now. I traded him to a lesson barn for lessons!! He and 1 other horse are the only ones listed as adopted from this “rescue” in almost 1 year of checking their web site.
>>regarding the animal farm (which is in my home state)… their website says ‘if they are not adopted they will go to auction in Saskatchewan where meat horse breeders will probably buy them to use as broodmares’…. and this is different from them being broodmares at your place how???? I’m with the RESPONSIBLE RESCUES DON’T BREED THEIR RESCUE HORSES… god< <
OMG. So the RESCUE is threatening to send them to AUCTION? WTF? WTF? WTF?
This sounds like a future topic. I’ll have to go check this out.
Sheltiepoo? SHELTIEPOO!???
Holy fuck.
I have a Sheltie, and I like poodles, but out of all the retarded designer dogs I’ve heard of this is the worst one yet.
Er, yeah, brain bubble. Around here the “dealers” are all “meat dealers”. There aren’t that many legit retrain/resellers, though I hope someone does scoop up the spotty fugly, put some miles on him, and make $$$ selling him where the horse market is better. Big, black, and spotty already–if he can get some manners and skills he’d probably stand a chance.
A little late to the party, but I’ll respond to a few posts.
Featured asshat breeder of the day said:
wft difference is to any of you how many and of what do people own?
The difference is that many of us end up cleaning up *your* mess. We rescue those mutts you randomly breed and sell to whomever writes a check–I mean, hands you cash. We foster them and care for them at great emotional and financial expense to ourselves or we hold them when they die because no one took the time to breed mentally and physically healthy animals, and no one took the time to screen the homes, and no one bred them *responsibly* by making sure there were homes for any pups lined up BEFORE THE BREEDING EVEN TOOK PLACE. It costs *us* in many ways to clean up your mess. It costs the dogs and horses you breed even more.
Other posters who are not Susan Stewart of Viola, WI said:
You can adopt a dog/puppy – cat/kitten from our local pound for $10.00 and that includes first shots and a certificate for a free neuter/spay.
And unfortunately they’re contributing to the problem if they’re sending out unaltered animals. I worked at a large shelter that had a similar policy–many, many purebred dogs were adopted out to people whose only question was “Is she spayed?” Free spay/neuter is a fraction of what they’d get from selling one pup.
Had they gotten the dog fixed before the litter, I would not have gotten a wonderful dog out of the deal.
But rest assured that a bunch of dogs who were just as wonderful as yours (different, but wonderful) got the blue juice because they hadn’t.
fugly (and anyone else) if you want to see some of the insanity surrounding the “rescue” at crazy high prices for the Animali mares, check out the blessed broodmare project here:
http://www.resinsbyrandy.com/TBBP.html
or go to
http://www.modelhorsesalespages.com/
and do a search for animali, and see everyone pitching in and sending $$ to save the mares.
if the mares were selling for normal rescue prices, I’d be less skeptical. And really, why are they trying to save draft x mares in Canada and ship them *here* while the kill buyers in the states are busily shipping horses back over the border? it seams like a massive waste of petroleum to me. seems like letting the canadian horses die and saving the US horses would be better for the environment (not to mention fewer horses being shipped should mean fewer semi accidents, right?)
oh well. nobody involved with horses listens to common sense, anyway.
the sheltipoo (example: http://d7661489.u37.surftown.se/images/mannebefore.JPG) just looks like a poor quality bearded collie (example: http://members.tripod.com/Tailwind10/656528a0.jpg)
angel_with_a_broken_halo said…
Aussiedoodle, Bich-Poo, Boxerdoodle, Cavapoo, Cockapoo etc..
All of which sound quite ugly to me, especially the Boxerdoodle.
Nooooooooooooooo! I thought Boxers had somehow escaped the doodle hell! Why would someone want to cross a beautiful Boxer with a stupid, fluffy, ill-tempered poodle anyway?!? You know that’s the kind they’re using. There are sweet poodles out there if you look but these morons always use the nasty ones. Pardon me whilst I mourn for my breed.
*busts a rib* bwahahahaha sooo much to laugh at this morning over breakfast! *wipes tear* uncle bubba.. burger king crown… deep fried lardcheron!
the ‘aussiedoodle’ particularly cracks me up, living in australia.. yeah, ive met some of those guys in bars *snerk*
“”And unfortunately they’re contributing to the problem if they’re sending out unaltered animals. I worked at a large shelter that had a similar policy”"
This is the municipal pound, so unless they get adopted, they get the needle. Only just recently have there been improvements made to the kennel area and such.
It’s not been very many years that they started using euthanazia by needle instead of bullet.
kuvaszfan, it all sucks.
But really, they could do what the other large shelter in my old city did and when dog is adopted, they collect the adoption fee, do the paperwork, and the new owners get to pick it up the next day or so after the animal has been altered. The unadopted ones would still get the blue juice. :-/
On Percherons: they are wonderful horses. They aren’t lardy. They are beautiful!
Don’t cross them with anything…
especially “poo.”
Kuvaszfan:
It’s not been many years indeed since euthanasia has been the issue. One of the counties in my area was recently told that it had to stop using its GAS CHAMBER on the animals. There was an article in my paper bemoaning the fact that it would cost $50,000 more per year to put down unwanted pets. My response to the costs: Tough shit! $50k is a small price to pay to make sure that the poor dogs breeders like this asshat pump out at least get a peaceful death, even if they can’t get a happy life.
(Longtime lurker here.)
I do not get the “doodle” thing at all. Supposedly, it started with a guy in Austrialia who was doing it right, i.e., selecting those from litters than had the characteristics wanted and only re-breeding those, to try to establish those characteristics. Then every idiot jumped on the bandwagon, and why? To have a dog with a cutseypoo breed name? If you want a somewhat hypoallergenic, i.e., minimally shedding dog, BUT A F-ING STANDARD POODLE, they’re smart, nice size, etc. Maybe some of the little guys can be yap-meisters and snappy, but a well-trained standard poodle is a lovely dog. Or a Portuguese or Irish Water Spaniel – curly, minimal shedding coat. All these doodles are “one-offs” and to be paying purebred prices for mutts!?!?! It boggles the mind. There are purebred RESCUES where you can get a nice poodle, but people pay $1,500 for a Golden/Poodle mutt?? Aaaargh!!!!
Someone in Alberta bred a big clonky Perch Appy cross, built like a tank, 16.3 hh, at least 1300lbs, black with a snowflake blanket. Sweetest, most patient horse I have ever ridden, and big, flowing free strides, tracked up beautifully. he could teach you to bellydance just walking down the trail. He was how-ever completely codependant on his rider: needed to be sure you were there and gonna take care of him. Once he trusted you, he’d do anything for you. He’s a lesson/trail/jousting horse now. I have worked a Perch Morgan Cross, a couple of pure Perches, and good old Dakota, and I concur that Perch breeding can add a great deal to selected crosses.